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milly View member profile	5th March 2016, 05:55 PM Post #61
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 1 February 2014 Posts: 1,069 User: 20,540	We're talking about them on the main thread and there are lots of pictures on Gary's twitter. I wouldn't say the gig was huge, but the crowd wasn't small either - there were quite a few fans there for the boys, considering they haven't been to Singapore in 20 years. I'm surprised the TT groups you're in don't mention the gigs, cause my twitter and fb timelines have been full of pics and videos from both gigs.


Bond Bug View member profile	7th March 2016, 01:54 AM Post #62
BuzzJack Regular Joined: 14 November 2006 Posts: 319 User: 1,966	QUOTE(milly @ Mar 4 2016, 05:56 PM) And the 2 of them would be called "Take Direction" or "That One". Either one sounds better/funnier than "Boyslife" Yes, That One sounds best. Why don't we write to Jason Orange?


nirvanamusic View member profile	21st May 2016, 04:10 PM Post #63
BuzzJack Regular Joined: 12 May 2012 Posts: 384 User: 16,950	I get the feeling now it's 4 years since Westlife split and with all their solo careers not doing well they will come back before 10 years which they initially said. Nothing has been said and this is purely my own speculation based on how things are turning out. If they do it would be gutting for them to overtake TT on sales in the UK after TT repositioned themselves as the rightful biggest boyband ever in the UK. TT 13.7 mil albums / 10.2 mil singles = 23.9 million Westlife 12 mil albums / 7 mil singles = 19 million Do you think Westlife will overtake TT UK sales if they come back? I seem to remember the music press/general public being glad of their demise so am guessing it wouldn't have the same backing as TT potentially? If they came back with any covers in this day and age they would be slaughtered! I know that much. This post has been edited by nirvanamusic: 17th April 2018, 06:37 PM


dylan62 View member profile	22nd May 2016, 03:17 PM Post #64
BuzzJack Climber Joined: 17 April 2016 Posts: 176 User: 23,185	I think they'll be some interest in a Westlife comeback and sales will probably be solid but not fantastic. The music industry, particularly the singles chart, has moved on since they split up. I think a tour will sell very well though. I doubt they'll over take TT and the difficulty they've had in forging solo careers shows just how hard the industry is at the moment.


jay727 View member profile	22nd May 2016, 05:29 PM Post #65
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 10 November 2010 Posts: 4,017 User: 12,273	I don't think they'll be any interest to be honest. They aren't relevant anymore and I can't see them coming back with any material to make me think the contrary.


pippa View member profile	23rd May 2016, 07:56 PM Post #66
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 11 June 2011 Posts: 23,993 User: 14,031	If Westlife were to reform i could seem having a successful tour, a relatively decent selling Greatest Hits but that's about it. I would not worry about them catching up on Take That's sales. Take That will be adding sales of Cry and the next lead single from the album to their tally. They will also be adding the sales of the upcoming new album which should at least manage platinum and 300,000 and not to forget next years Greatest Hits which i believe will sell strongly.


Kath View member profile	23rd May 2016, 08:09 PM Post #67
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 24 February 2007 Posts: 20,625 User: 2,980	QUOTE(pippa @ May 23 2016, 08:56 PM) If Westlife were to reform i could seem having a successful tour, a relatively decent selling Greatest Hits but that's about it. I would not worry about them catching up on Take That's sales. Take That will be adding sales of Cry and the next lead single from the album to their tally. They will also be adding the sales of the upcoming new album which should at least manage platinum and 300,000 and not to forget next years Greatest Hits which i believe will sell strongly. I don't think one can compare Westlife to Take That though. I think (one of) the great things about Take That was when Gary said as they broke up in 96 - something like 'who knows - we may come back in 10 years' and they did. I think if Westlife do wait a full 10 years - they'll be filling quite small venues (and there's nothing wrong with that) but I doubt they'd come back after 10 years and fill Wembley. Take That had a very, very loyal fanbase who 'never forgot'. Also - as well as the original material they were coming back with - for all that it was horrible for Take That fans (and Barlow fans in particular) Robbie's constant sniping kept them in the public awareness. People like myself - who didn't really consider or take notice of Take That the first time around - was rooting for what was seen as the underdog - and in many ways was glad to see the slightly smug smirk of Rob's face. This post has been edited by Kath: 23rd May 2016, 08:10 PM


milly View member profile	25th May 2016, 09:58 AM Post #68
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 1 February 2014 Posts: 1,069 User: 20,540	QUOTE(jay727 @ May 22 2016, 08:29 PM) I don't think they'll be any interest to be honest. They aren't relevant anymore and I can't see them coming back with any material to make me think the contrary. Agree 100%.


pippa View member profile	25th May 2016, 02:35 PM Post #69
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 11 June 2011 Posts: 23,993 User: 14,031	Westlife are also very dependent on someone providing them with a good song or cover versions. This is where Take That always managed to shine and were self reliant with new material.


TTer View member profile	8th September 2016, 01:48 AM Post #70
New Entry Joined: 12 October 2015 Posts: 25 User: 22,527	Album sales (minimum) based on certifications Take That UK: 13.7 Million Germany: 1.9 Million Italy: 650,000 (Greatest Hits '96 Certification unknown) Taiwan: 435,000 Japan: 390,000 Ireland: 300,000 (00's only) Netherlands: 300,000 USA: 288,000 (Billboard magazine) Sweden: 170,000 Switzerland: 155,000 Spain: 150,000 Austria: 120,000 Canada: 120,000 France: 120,000 Denmark: 115,000 (00's only) Australia: 70,000 Portugal: 40,000 Argentina: 30,000 Finland: 28,000 Norway: 25,000 Brazil: 11,500 (00's only) 90's sales for Ireland, Belgium, Mexico, Israel, Chile (featured in Billboard magazine as top selling market for Nobody Else) and Denmark are missing as well as x1 for Italy (album was #1 there) Minimum total based on these national figures (doesn't account for full global total) = 19 million Westlife UK: 11.1 million Indonesia: 1.6 million Ireland: 800,000 Philippines: 770,000 Malaysia: 500,000 Germany: 450,000 Sweden: 440,000 Mexico: 225,000 Japan: 211,570 Australia: 210,000 New Zealand: 210,000 Denmark: 200,000 Korea: 200,000 Netherlands: 170,000 Taiwan: 150,000 Brazil: 116,000 Norway: 100,000 South Africa: 100,000 Thailand: 100,000 Singapore: 75,000 Switzerland: 60,000 Austria: 20,000 Hong Kong: 20,000 India: 10,000 Minimum total based on these national figures (doesn't account for full global total) = 17.7 million TT wins


nirvanamusic View member profile	8th September 2016, 09:12 AM Post #71
BuzzJack Regular Joined: 12 May 2012 Posts: 384 User: 16,950	Ok this is a LOT of information album/single all in one! What's interesting is they have done well in different parts of the World. That said TT sales in places like India and Asia aside from Japan/Taiwan are unknown as it's much easier to find info for Westlife as a 1999 onwards act (internet boom era). Taking out the countries mentioned where TT sales can't be found but going for countries where the information is known reads like this in terms of higher album sales in countries: As of 2014 (can't find 2016 they rarely change) top 20 music market size in brackets. ALBUMS - Country by country who has sold more where information for both is available (chart positions/sales). See above why TT at disadvantage for info for certain nations so that nation not assigned to either band. Take That USA, (1) Japan, (2) Germany, (3) UK, (4) France, (5) Canada, (7) Italy, (10) Spain, (13) Austria, (16) Switzerland, (18) Taiwan, Netherlands, Argentina, Portugal, Finland, Hungary, Denmark (TT 90's certs unknown so TT almost certainly higher), Belgium. TT: 10 of top 20 markets including the top 5 largest music markets more albums sold than Westlife. Westlife Australia, (6) Brazil, (9) Sweden, (12) Mexico, (14) Norway, (15) Ireland, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Iceland, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines. Westlife: 5 of top 20 markets ALBUMS World Chart albums (2004 onwards) top 10's only Take That. Beautiful World. 5 weeks top 10. #4. The Circus. 4 weeks top 10. #2. (Britney Spears - Circus #1) Progress. 8 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). III. 1 week top 10. #8. Wonderland. 1 week top 10. #3. Odyssey. 1 week top 10. #5. 20 weeks top 10/1 week #1. Westlife. Face To Face. 1 week top 10. #4. The Love Album. 1 week top 10. #8. Back Home. 1 week top 10. #8. Spectrum. 1 week top 10. #6. 4 weeks top 10/0 weeks. 16 weeks difference in top 10 between the two. (2004 onwards) European Hot 100 (1984 -2010) Top 10's only Take That Everything Changes. 22 weeks top 10. #5. Nobody Else. 10 weeks top 10. #1 (5 weeks). Greatest Hits. 10 weeks top 10. #1 (4 weeks). Beautiful World. 16 weeks top 10. #3. The Circus. 7 weeks top 10. #5. Progress. 4 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week) - Progress was last #1 on the chart before it closed. 69 weeks top 10/10 weeks #1. Westlife Westlife. 2 weeks top 10. #10. Coast To Coast. 6 weeks top 10. #9. World Of Our Own. 6 weeks top 10. #5. Unbreakable - The Greatest Hits. 6 weeks top 10. #3. Turnaround. 4 weeks top 10. #5. Allow Us To Be Frank. 1 week top 10. #6. Face To Face. 3 weeks top 10. #5. The Love Album. 5 weeks top 10. #5. Back Home. 3 weeks top 10. #6. 36 weeks top 10/0 weeks #1. 33 weeks difference in European top 10 between the two. Taking into account also that TT 90's albums totalled 42 weeks in Euro top 10 which alone is more than WL whole career and before the 2005 reunion it's pretty safe to say had certs for missing Euro countries been made available for early/mid 90's they would have been higher than WL. Denmark, Belgium unknown etc etc.) Zimbabwe - Top 20 SINGLES Pray-11.9.93. #11, 3 weeks Back For Good-26.6.95, #7, 13 weeks Never Forget-11.9.95, #9, 2 weeks ALBUMS 7 Aug 1995: No.8 ~ Nobody Else. USA TAKE THAT Singles Back For Good: Hot 100 #7. Everybody Hurts (Helping Haiti): Hot 100 Bubbling Under: #21 (121 overall). Back For Good - other US charts Adult Contemporary: #2 (Sophie B. Hawkins - As I Lay Me Down #1). Adult Pop Songs: #3. Pop Songs: #9. Radio Songs: #12. Albums Nobody Else: #69. Top Heatseakers: #1. Canada Singles It Only Takes a Minute: #20. Back For Good: #1 (2 weeks). Pray: #55. How Deep Is Your Love: #80. Patience: #21. Everybody Hurts (Helping Haiti): #59. Albums Nobody Else: #23. Greatest Hits: #38. WESTLIFE USA Singles Swear It Again: Hot 100 #20. Everybody Hurts (Helping Haiti): Hot 100 Bubbling Under: #21 (121 overall). Swear It Again - other US charts Pop Songs: #21. Adult Contemporary: #22. Radio Songs: #83. Albums Westlife: #129. Canada Singles Swear It Again: #28. Everybody Hurts (Helping Haiti): #59. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SINGLES World Chart (1955 - Present) Top 10's only Take That Back For Good. 11 weeks top 10. #1 (3 weeks). Never Forget. 4 weeks top 10. #8. How Deep Is Your Love. 11 weeks top 10. #2. (Everything But The Girl - Missing #1). Patience. 6 weeks top 10. #5. 32 weeks top 10/3 weeks #1. Westlife My Love. 1 week top 10. #10. 1 week top 10/0 weeks. 31 weeks difference in Global top 10 between the two. 26 weeks alone in the 90's for TT in top 10. European Hot 100 (1984 - 2010) Top 10's only Take That Could It Be Magic. 2 weeks top 10. #9. Why Can't I Wake Up With You. 2 weeks top 10. #8. Pray. 5 weeks top 10. #7. Relight My Fire. 3 weeks top 10. #8. Babe. 3 weeks top 10. #5. Everything Changes. 3 weeks top 10. #6. Love Ain't Here Anymore. 2 weeks top 10. #5. Sure. 3 weeks top 10. #3. Back For Good. 12 weeks top 10. #1 (5 weeks). Never Forget. 6 weeks top 10. #3. How Deep Is Your Love. 8 weeks top 10. #3. Patience. 9 weeks top 10. #1 (6 weeks). Shine. 2 weeks top 10. #3. Rule The World. 7 weeks top 10. #5. Greatest Day. 2 weeks top 10. #8. The Flood. 12 weeks top 10. #4. 81 weeks top 10/11 weeks #1. Westlife Swear It Again. 3 weeks top 10. #6. If I Let You Go. 2 weeks top 10. #8. Flying Without Wings. 1 week top 10. #10. I Have A Dream. 4 weeks top 10. #7. Fool Again. 1 week top 10. #9. My Love. 2 weeks top 10. #3. Against All Odds. 2 weeks top 10. #3. Uptown Girl. 2 weeks top 10. #8. Queen Of My Heart. 1 week top 10. #8. Unbreakable. 2 weeks top 10. #5. World Of Our Own. 1 week top 10. #4. Mandy. 3 weeks top 10. #3. You Raise Me Up. 7 weeks top 10. #4. When You Tell Me That You Love Me. 1 week top 10. #9. The Rose. 2 weeks top 10. #4. What About Now. 1 week top 10. #7. 35 weeks top 10/0 weeks. 46 weeks difference in European singles top 10. 49 weeks alone in 90's so again already 14 weeks higher than WL career before the TT 2005 reunion. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Side note Gary has had one single chart in World top 10 and one album. World Chart Top 10's Only Gary Barlow. SINGLES (1955 to present) Forever Love. 1 week top 10. #7. 1 week top 10. ALBUMS (2004 onwards) Since I Saw You Last. 1 week top 10. #10. 1 week top 10. European Hot 100 (1984 - 2010) SINGLES Forever Love. 9 weeks top 10. #3. Shame. 1 week top 10. #4. 10 weeks top 10. ALBUM Open Road. 3 weeks top 10. #4. 3 weeks top 10. USA Singles So Help Me Girl: Hot 100 #44. Adult Contemporary: #3. Radio Songs: #58. Superhero: Billboard Bubbling Under: #6 (106 overall). Radio Songs: #7. Adult Contemporary: #23. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Owen. European Hot 100 Top 10's only. SINGLES Child. 1 week top 10. #9. 1 week top 10. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robbie Williams. For Robbie I'll just stick to World Chart Top 10's and leave his Europeans off. World Chart Top 10 only SINGLES Angels. 4 weeks top 10. #7. Millennium. 10 weeks top 10. #3. She's The One. 1 week top 10. #10. Rock DJ. 13 weeks top 10. #3. Supreme. 11 weeks top 10. #6. Eternity. 1 week top 10. #8. Somethin' Stupid. 11 weeks top 10. #3. Feel. 16 weeks top 10. #1 (2 weeks). Come Undone. 6 weeks top 10. #5. Something Beautiful. 7 weeks top 10. #6. Radio. 4 weeks top 10. #8. Tripping. 17 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Advertising Space. 9 weeks top 10. #7. Bodies. 2 weeks top 10. #2. (Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling #1) Candy. 2 weeks top 10. #8. 114 weeks top 10/3 weeks #1. ALBUMS Greatest Hits. 14 weeks top 10. #1 (3 weeks). Intensive Care. 13 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Rudebox. 3 weeks top 10. #2. (My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade #1) Reality Killed The Video Star. 6 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). In and Out Of Consciousness - Greatest Hits. 3 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Take The Crown. 1 week top 10. #3. Swings Both Ways. 8 weeks top 10. #2. (Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 2 #1) 48 weeks top 10/6 weeks #1. USA Singles Angels: Hot 100 #53. Adult Contemporary: #10. Adult Pop Songs: #21. Pop Songs: #25. Radio Songs: #45. Millennium: Hot 100: #72. Pop Songs: #20. Adult Pop Songs: #22. Radio Songs: #74. Rock DJ: Dance Club Songs: #24. Feel: Adult Pop Songs: #28. Lovelight: Dance Club Songs: #8. Bodies: Dance Club Songs: #6. Last Days Of Disco: Dance Club Songs: #7. The Days (Avicii feat Robbie Williams): Hot 100: #78. Albums The Ego Has Landed: #63. Sing When You're Winning: #110. Escapology: #43. Reality Killed The Video Star: #160. Canada Singles Angels: #18. Millennium: #9. Rock DJ: #22. Eternity/The Road To Mandalay: #31. Somethin' Stupid: #25. Feel: #9. Everybody Hurts (Helping Haiti): #59. The Days (Avicii feat Robbie Williams): #80. Albums The Ego Has Landed: #19. Sing When You're Winning: #7. Swing When You're Winning: #50. Escapology: #39. Greatest Hits: #34. Intensive Care: #40. Rudebox: #36. Reality Killed The Video Star: #57. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian McFadden (Westlife) European Hot 100 Top 10 only SINGLES Real To Me. 1 week top 10. #5. 1 week top 10. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This post has been edited by nirvanamusic: 27th November 2019, 08:58 PM


nirvanamusic View member profile	8th September 2016, 03:15 PM Post #72
BuzzJack Regular Joined: 12 May 2012 Posts: 384 User: 16,950	I know this is Westlife and Take That but I thought I'd list other British and Irish boybands who have had entries on the World Chart. Most however are global one hit wonders as referenced above Westlife had one global hit but so did some others. TT did well to land 4 global top 10 singles. Albums like above are only from 2004 onwards for World Chart so most of these 90/00's groups are unknown for albums. Let's start with the BIG one! World Chart (1955 to Present) Top 10 only One Direction. SINGLES What Makes You Beautiful. 5 weeks top 10. #8. Live While We're Young. 1 week top 10. #2 (Psy - Gangnam Style #1). Little Things. 1 week top 10. #9. One Way or Another (Teenage Kicks). 1 week top 10. #6. Best Song Ever. 2 weeks top 10. #3. Story Of My Life. 11 weeks top 10. #5. Steal My Girl. 1 week top 10. #6. Drag Me Down. 3 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Perfect. 2 weeks top 10. #3. 27 weeks top 10/1 week #1. ALBUMS Up All Night. 29 weeks top 10. #2 (Adele - 21 #1). Take Me Home. 15 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Midnight Memories. 10 weeks top 10. #1 (2 weeks). Four. 8 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Made In The AM. 9 weeks top 10. #2 (Justin Bieber - Purpose #1). 73 weeks top 10/4 weeks #1. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- East 17. World Chart SINGLES It's Alright. 6 weeks top 10. #8. Stay Another Day. 5 weeks top 10. #7. 11 weeks top 10/0 weeks. European Hot 100 SINGLES House Of Love. 1 week top 10. #9. It's Alright. 15 weeks top 10. #4. Around The World. 4 weeks top 10. #7. Stay Another Day. 12 weeks top 10. #2. (Rednex - Cotton Eye Joe #1). Thunder. 4 weeks top 10. #6. Each Time. 1 week top 10. #10. 37 weeks top 10/0 weeks. ALBUMS Steam. 4 weeks top 10. #7. 4 weeks top 10/0 weeks. Zimbabwe - Top 20 SINGLES Deep-10.4.93, #8, 7 weeks Around the world-13.8.94, #7, 4 weeks Stay another day-8.5.95, #1 (1 week - 15.5.95), 16 weeks. ALBUMS None USA Singles House Of Love: Dance Club Songs: #41. Deep: Hot 100 Bubbling Under: #23. (#123 overall) Hold My Body Tight: Dance Club Songs: #32. Canada Singles Let It Rain: #79. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Five. World Chart SINGLES Keep On Movin'. 5 weeks top 10. #8. Let's Dance. 1 week top 10. #10. 6 weeks top 10/0 weeks. European Hot 100 SINGLES Until The Time Is Through. 1 week top 10. #10. If Ya Gettin' Down. 3 weeks top 10. #8. Keep On Movin'. 2 weeks top 10. #9. Let's Dance. 1 week top 10. #7. 7 weeks top 10/0 weeks. ALBUMS Five. 2 weeks top 10. #5. Invincible. 1 week top 10. #10. 3 weeks top 10/0 weeks. USA Singles When The Lights Go Out: Hot 100: #10. Pop Songs: #14. Rhythmic Songs: #29. Radio Songs: #41. It's The Thing's You Do: Hot 100: #53. Slam Dunk (Da Funk): Hot 100: #86. Album 5ive: #27. Invincible: #108. Canada Singles When The Lights Go Out: #30. Albums 5ive: #38. Invincible: #49. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blue. World Chart SINGLES Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word (feat Elton John). 12 weeks top 10. #6. 12 weeks top 10/0 weeks. European Hot 100 SINGLES Too Close. 1 week top 10. #10. Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word. 12 weeks top 10. #2. (Eminem - Lose Yourself #1). Guilty. 1 week top 10. #3. Breathe Easy. 1 week top 10. #10. Curtain Falls. 1 week top 10. #6. 16 weeks top 10/0 weeks. ALBUMS All Rise. 2 weeks top 10. #8. One Love. 1 week top 10. #6. Guilty. 2 weeks top 10. #5. Best Of Blue. 9 weeks top 10. #5. 14 weeks top 10/0 weeks. Canada Singles All Rise: #11. Fly By II: #28. Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word (Blue feat Elton John): #7. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Boyzone. World Chart SINGLES No Matter What. 12 weeks top 10. #3. 12 weeks top 10/0 weeks. European Hot 100 SINGLES Love Me For A Reason. 3 weeks top 10. #6. Key To My Life. 1 week top 10. #6. Father And Son. 1 week top 10. #8. Words. 12 weeks top 10. #6. All That I Need. 1 week top 10. #7. No Matter What. 23 weeks top 10. #2 (Cher - Believe #1). I Love The Way You Love Me. 1 week top 10. #7. When The Going Get's Tough. 2 weeks top 10. #7. You Needed Me. 2 weeks top 10. #6. 46 weeks top 10/0 weeks. ALBUMS Where We Belong. 7 weeks top 10. #5. By Request. 15 weeks top 10. #2 (Jamiroquai - Synkronized #1). 22 weeks top 10/0 weeks. USA Singles Mystical Experience: Hot Latin Songs: #4. Latin Pop Songs: #5. No Matter What: Hot 100 Bubbling Under: #16 (116 overall). Adult Contemporary: #12. Pop Songs: #35. Album Where We Belong: #167. Canada Singles No Matter What: #51. Album ...By Request: #35. Zimbabwe - Top 20 SINGLES 22 Jan 96: no.8, 7 wks ~ Father And Son ALBUMS None ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Wanted. World Chart SINGLES Glad You Came. 4 weeks top 10. #7. 4 weeks top 10/0 weeks. European Hot 100 SINGLES All Time Low. 1 week top 10. #6. Glad You Came. 4 weeks top 10. #8. 5 weeks top 10/0 weeks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Backstreet Boys. World Chart SINGLES Quit Playing Games (With My Heart). 12 weeks top 10. #6. Everybody (Backstreet's Back). 8 weeks top 10. #5. As Long As You Love Me. 20 weeks top 10. #3. I Want It That Way. 14 weeks top 10. #1 (4 weeks). Larger Than Life. 8 weeks top 10. #5. Show Me The Meaning Of Being Lonely. 13 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). The One. 6 weeks top 10. #5. Shape Of My Heart. 14 weeks top 10. #1 (6 weeks). The Call. 9 weeks top 10. #6. More Than That. 6 weeks top 10. #6. Drowning. 10 weeks top 10. #6. Incomplete. 15 weeks top 10. #3. 135 weeks top 10/11 weeks #1. ALBUMS (2004 onwards) Never Gone. 6 weeks top 10. #3. Unbreakable. 2 weeks top 10. #3. This Is Us. 1 week top 10. #5. In A World Like This. 2 weeks top 10. #4. 11 weeks top 10/0 weeks. European Hot 100 (1984 - 2010) Top 10 only. SINGLES (We've Got it Goin' On. #11.) I'll Never Break Your Heart. 5 weeks top 10. #7. Get Down. 4 weeks top 10. #8. Quit Playing Games (With My Heart). 13 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Everybody (Backstreets's Back). 11 weeks top 10. #2. (Puff Daddy - I'll Be Missing You #1). As Long As You Love Me. 12 weeks top 10. #4. All I Have To Give. 5 weeks top 10. #6. I Want It That Way. 10 weeks top 10. #1 (7 weeks). Larger Than Life. 2 weeks top 10. #5. Show Me The Meaning Of Being Lonely. 5 weeks top 10. #4. Shape Of My Heart. 7 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Incomplete. 4 weeks top 10. #6. 78 weeks top 10/9 weeks #1. ALBUMS Backstreet Boys. 16 weeks top 10. #7. Backstreet's Back. 23 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Millennium. 14 weeks top 10. #1 (4 weeks). Black & Blue. 5 weeks top 10. #2 (The Beatles - 1 #1). Greatest Hits - Chapter One. 3 weeks top 10. #4. Never Gone. 4 weeks top 10. #2 (Coldplay - X & Y #1). 65 weeks top 10/5 weeks #1. Zimbabwe - Top 20 SINGLES None ALBUMS 17 Feb 97: no.3 ~ Backstreet Boys 30 Nov 97: no.8 ~ Backstreet’s Back ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nsync World Chart SINGLES Bye Bye Bye. 13 weeks top 10. #2 (Madonna - American Pie #1). It's Gonna Be Me. 9 weeks top 10. #6. Pop. 8 weeks top 10. #5. Girlfriend (feat Nelly). 7 weeks top 10. #4. 37 weeks top 10/0 weeks. European Hot 100 SINGLES Bye Bye Bye. 5 weeks top 10. #5. Girlfriend. 4 weeks top 10. #4. 9 weeks top 10/0 weeks. ALBUMS NSYNC. 2 weeks top 10 #8. 2 weeks top 10/0 weeks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Kids On The Block. World Chart SINGLES You Got It (The Right Stuff). 1 week top 10. #8. I'll Be Loving You (Forever). 2 weeks top 10. #9. Hangin' Tough. 4 weeks top 10. #5. Step By Step. 11 weeks top 10. #1 (1 week). Tonight. 6 weeks top 10. #4. 24 weeks top 10/1 week #1. ALBUMS (2004 onwards) The Block. 1 week top 10. #7. 1 week top 10/0 weeks. European Hot 100 SINGLES You Got It (The Right Stuff). 3 weeks top 10. #9. Hangin' Tough. 2 weeks top 10. #2 (Phil Collins - Another Day In Paradise #1). Step By Step. 1 week top 10. #5. 6 weeks top 10/0 weeks. ALBUMS Hangin' Tough. 8 weeks top 10. #7. Step By Step. 14 weeks top 10. #1 (8 weeks). 22 weeks top 10/8 weeks #1. Zimbabwe - Top 20 SINGLES 6 Oct 90: no.8, 3 wks ~ Hangin’ Tough 29 Dec 90: no.10, 4 wks ~ Step By Step 26 Jan 91: no.9, 4 wks ~ Tonight 23 Mar 91: no.11, 2 wks ~ Games ALBUMS 28 Jan 91: no.8 ~ Step By Step ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BUSTED World Chart Singles (Highest) Crashed The Wedding: #27. USA Singles What I Go To School For: Hot Singles Sales: #11. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MCFLY World Chart Singles (Highest) All About You: #12. Albums (Highest) Wonderland: #32. USA Albums Just My Luck: Top Heatseakers: #25. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A1 World Chart Singles (Highest) Caught In The Middle: #30. USA Caught In The Middle: Radio & Records Mainstream Chart: #46. This post has been edited by nirvanamusic: 25th January 2017, 08:03 PM


nirvanamusic View member profile	2nd April 2017, 10:42 AM Post #73
BuzzJack Regular Joined: 12 May 2012 Posts: 384 User: 16,950	Current minimum sales (Albums & Singles) based on BPI/OCC data for top 5 boybands ever in Britain: 1.Take That: 23.1 million 2.Westlife: 18.8 million 3.One Direction: 14.9 million 4.Boyzone: 13.1 million 5.JLS: 6.5 million I used to think even during TT huge 2 mill album plus eras that Westlife could still catch them when a reunion for them comes around as they wouldn't have needed to sell like they used to. It's debatable that any act of that age would/will now however who knows. 4.3 million records difference between them now but I think TT back catalogue will keep slowly selling more than Westlife as Westlife have had few new certs since they split in 2011. I don't see it happening I think TT will go up and up but at a much slower pace to what they used to. Those four boybands to have gone over 10 million records in Britain are head and shoulders above the rest and it's a testament to One Direction that they pulled themselves into that bracket. This post has been edited by nirvanamusic: 2nd April 2017, 10:44 AM


Padamic Tension View member profile	2nd April 2017, 04:10 PM Post #74
BuzzJack Idol Joined: 29 June 2006 Posts: 128,451 User: 845	Westlife could boost sales with a reunion but at most i couldnt see them having a Greatest Hits that would sell any more than a million at the very most. I do think the next Take That Greatest Hits whenever we get it could be a big seller, not near as big as the Ultimate Collection but possibly another million seller so i think Take That will hold a fairly good sales lead on Westlife. The Ultimate Collection continues to sell for Take That and is now over 2.4 million sales and back in the charts, i would think this has at least another 100,000 sales left in it although it will sell in low numbers for a long time to get it. I still find it strange One Direction didnt do a Greatest Hits of some sort as it would have sold huge for them. I would think the plan is when they do reform is launch the comeback on a Greatest Hits tour and album to get the interest hyped up for them and follow quickly with a new studio album. This post has been edited by Feel_The_Fever: 2nd April 2017, 04:12 PM


nirvanamusic View member profile	2nd April 2017, 04:46 PM Post #75
BuzzJack Regular Joined: 12 May 2012 Posts: 384 User: 16,950	Greatest Hits have died out in general. However I think they are great and they are also a great way for curious fans to get and then go deeper into albums from that. However a group like Take That actually have numerous singles to do an updated greatest hits album or even variation greatest hits albums. #1's, best of , Vol 2 etc etc I agree that seems like the most ideal plan for One Direction in the future.


MOTTFAN View member profile	2nd April 2017, 05:45 PM Post #76
New Entry Joined: 17 February 2017 Posts: 30 User: 26,028	Am not a westlife fan at all so clicked on this thread with both trepidation and curiosity!! I do love reading about sales figures, even more so when TT come out on top. Deservedly so in my (admittedly biased) opinion haha. Great to see Boyzone in the mix. Despite the number of cheesy covers in their back-catalogue I am a big fan of theirs. Their comeback songs/albums have all been superb (if we forget that Dublin to Detroit ever happened). the gap in sales between BZ (in 4th) and JLS (5th) is staggering!! I hear BZ are going on tour again soon; I assume that means another album is due which will help their numbers a bit


nirvanamusic View member profile	3rd April 2017, 07:06 AM Post #77
BuzzJack Regular Joined: 12 May 2012 Posts: 384 User: 16,950	I agree there is definitely an endearing quality about Boyzone I think because they struggled to find their feet like Take That did initially. Perhaps also because they came out when there were only a handful of boybands and not over saturated it makes them more pure and honest. I did like Westlife 99-02 before all the covers but there is something quite cynical about boybands like that especially ones who come from the same manager and are carbon copies. These groups had the same manager and are also quite similar. Backstreet Boys > NSYNC Boyzone > Westlife Busted > McFly. Just following on from my post above the 6 - 10 positions current minimum sales (Albums & Singles) based on BPI/OCC data in Britain are: 6.Backstreet Boys: 4.6 million 7.Blue: 4.3 million 8.Five: 4 million 9.East 17: 3.6 million 10.McFly: 3.2 million Take That were 7.5 million when they finished after Greatest Hits and How Deep is Your Love in 1996 which had they not had the 2005 reunion would have placed them fourth overall. This means they've sold a staggering 15.6 million records in Britain since 2005 however that figure alone and without the 7.5 mill added from 90's to bring 23.1 million would have seen them trailing Westlife. This shows how much of a consistent force Westlife truly were in Britain during their time with an album routinely out every single year and for most part multiple singes with them. Just a few comments on the table above. If Backstreet Boys shifted a lot more albums in Britain they could have gone a bit higher but they have had x3 albums only reach Gold status which drags their total down from what it could be. They are strong singles or rather consistent sellers however. Blue were dragged down by their singles sales as they really were poor 01-04 which were Blues years however they counter acted that with strong album sales. McFly really don't sell hardly at all either singles/albums aside from their debut album. HOWEVER their longevity and persistence over the years (13 years) has seen them gradually creep up and over flash in pan groups. Out of the top ten groups who doesn't (if ever) get certified these days are Boyzone,JLS,Blue,Five,East 17. McFly creep Gold album sales these days but no higher however over last two years 3 of their back catalogue singles have been certified. I'm guessing the McBusted hype helped them with this as their sales had been frozen in time for many years. BSB don't get albums going Silver let alone Gold or higher in Britain these days. They do from time to time have their singles back catalogue go up in certs which pushes their sales up. Doing the last 2 years (2015) these are how many certifications each band has had showing if they are still selling today. It's safe to say we'll leave Take That and One D off as have had multiple certs over past two years: Westlife: 2 certs (1 album/1 single) Boyzone: 1 cert (1 album) JLS: 1 cert (1 album) BSB: 2 cert (2 singles) Blue: None Five: 1 cert (1 single) East 17: None McFly: 4 certs (1 album/3 singles) This post has been edited by nirvanamusic: 3rd April 2017, 07:54 AM


jay727 View member profile	3rd April 2017, 11:29 AM Post #78
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 10 November 2010 Posts: 4,017 User: 12,273	It'll only increase once the new GH comes out at Xmas. Personally I think it should just focus on 2006 onwards. Never Forget has the old songs covered and continues to sell


nirvanamusic View member profile	3rd April 2017, 12:06 PM Post #79
BuzzJack Regular Joined: 12 May 2012 Posts: 384 User: 16,950	I agree at first I thought a 25 year retrospect would be great however like you say the Never Forget compilation that has enough songs to stand on it's own so focuss on their comeback and make that a Vol 2 perhaps. Are the albums just all being rereleased or is it a greatest hits? Personally I think now is a great time to reintroduce people to the great singles they've put out and hope it is GH Vol 2. Something is definitely happening with BMG as Gary said they talking to old record label if so I hope that we get GH Vol2 06-present and BMG re release the 90's albums and ush their certs up a bit however they released them in 06 so we'll have to see what happens. This post has been edited by nirvanamusic: 3rd April 2017, 12:08 PM


pippa View member profile	3rd April 2017, 02:39 PM Post #80
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 11 June 2011 Posts: 23,993 User: 14,031	I would like a Greatest Hits volume 2 that focuses on the music since they reformed. Doing this would allow the Ultimate Collection to continue selling. That said, outside the loyal fans i think the casual buyer of such a cd would prefer a mixture and may feel disappointed that some of their older songs do not appear. Overall, it may be easier to sell a new Greatest Hits that covers their whole career. They have so many options down the road as they could do a Greatest Hits Vol 2 (2005-2017) they could do a "best of" covering songs from their whole career. I am sure that down the road we will see releases such as the Number 1's collection, the definitive collection, etc. They have such a strong catalogue of single that will manage to sell different styles of Greatest Hits for years to come. Another release i would welcome from them is the best of b sides and rarities as i firmly believe we could have a wonderful album of such material.