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 31st January 2021, 01:36 PM
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Loving the outpour of love for this show in this thread, everytime I read comments or talk about the show I get really emotional and this just goes to show how impactful the show was!
 For me this is the most important piece of LGBTQ+ TV ever, the events of the 80's and AIDS and all the homophobia of it have been very much swept under the carpet and forgotten when really it's just as important as the holocaust and slavery to remember. Only by remembering horrors and hatred of the past can we work towards never returning back to them, and constantly challenge the hate and lack equality still occurring to this day!
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31st January 2021, 02:47 PM
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I’m not sure if the HIV/AIDS thing has been forgotten at all, anytime I watch a drama about politics and history of the period this is one of the main social events of the decade?
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31st January 2021, 03:03 PM
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I don’t think people have forgotten that AIDS was a big thing, I do think people have forgotten how badly victims were treated. I’ve never heard from anyone talking about just how horrendous a situation it was before, certainly not as candidly as this show did.
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31st January 2021, 04:06 PM
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I haven't seen this yet, so pinch of salt...
But I'm not sure I can bring myself to watch it. It sounds so very depressing and Davies' previous show (Cucumber/Banana) really sent me down a spiral when a certain thing happened in it. While I recognise it's an important part of our history, I also find it lowkey upsetting how so many gay/queer stories are so intertwined with suffering, loss, death and hardship, and often really graphically done too. And I can imagine that that might be the case with this too, even though it also shows images of escape and so on. Am I on the right path or is it better/more positive than that? No outright spoilers please, though. |
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31st January 2021, 04:46 PM
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"Everything seems different the second time around."
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QUOTE(steve201 @ Jan 31 2021, 02:47 PM)  I’m not sure if the HIV/AIDS thing has been forgotten at all, anytime I watch a drama about politics and history of the period this is one of the main social events of the decade? I don't think it's be forgotten per se, but I was born in 1990 (the tail end of this). We learnt about general sexual health in school, and were taught about HIV, how it was the worst and we definitely would not want it, they mentioned briefly the AIDS epidemic, but it was NEVER highlighted just how much of a terrifying time it was for gays and how we were treated. Nothing I have seen since has made me understand the true impact it had, quite as much as this. I think it's very important that it is always remembered, as the attitude people had towards gays was simply unacceptable (of course, the effects of HIV too... But thankfully, significant advances in treatment have almost nullified it's effect for the majority of HIV+ people). |
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31st January 2021, 08:20 PM
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I caved and watched it all one evening earlier in the week. I was in tears from eps 3-5. STUNNING SHOW
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31st January 2021, 09:44 PM
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I watched it all, and it really got me in the way of treating gay people during these hard times, also the contrast between that careless lifestyle (Olly looks like a pure whore
 sorry but I can't help myself from thinking what an image he has... bravo) and the danger in the air, sometimes it was rather tough to watch cuz of emotions.Started watching because of Olly, ended up liking every person in the cast! Probably gonna watch it again after refining and realizing what exactly I've watched. Great show anyway. |
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2nd February 2021, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(Juranamo @ Jan 31 2021, 04:46 PM) I don't think it's be forgotten per se, but I was born in 1990 (the tail end of this). We learnt about general sexual health in school, and were taught about HIV, how it was the worst and we definitely would not want it, they mentioned briefly the AIDS epidemic, but it was NEVER highlighted just how much of a terrifying time it was for gays and how we were treated. Nothing I have seen since has made me understand the true impact it had, quite as much as this. I think it's very important that it is always remembered, as the attitude people had towards gays was simply unacceptable (of course, the effects of HIV too... But thankfully, significant advances in treatment have almost nullified it's effect for the majority of HIV+ people). This. The treatment of gay people is swept under the carpet, it’s not something we learn in schools (I mean section 28 is to blame for that - hell we don’t even teach about section 28) LGBTQ history is just as important as Black history, Religious history, War history yet there is nothing in the curriculum for it. |
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2nd February 2021, 09:48 AM
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what i find fascinating is how people are saying what a nasty mother Ritchie's mom is? And I don't see it? She literally goes into lioness hunter mode and takes her son home to look after him... like a mother's instinct... I mean you must think about the time... a deathly disease she knows nothing about, a culture she has never experienced... all she wants is her son well... obviously she sees Jill and his London life as the reason he's ill... I don't think shes a saint of a mother and obviously a lot of education is needed from her but to discount her as a terrible mother... is a really weak opinion. If she were a terrible mother, she'd have walked out the hospital bed and let him die
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2nd February 2021, 10:42 AM
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Finished this on Saturday and I was in bits.
When people think about the AIDS crisis in the 80s it's seen as a tragedy and people see the statistics, but this really brings home the reality of it and how so many people experienced such enormous loss and trauma, and the impact this had on all these people's lives in the most painful way. You can also tell how the writer (Russell T Davies) channelled his own lived experiences into it, and that must have been harrowing. But above all, I'm so glad this was made to educate the current generation. We have to appreciate how we are so incredibly lucky to exist in this era. Never forget those who fought and paved the way for us. ♥ |
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5th February 2021, 08:49 PM
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Kinda dreading tonight's episode with some of the comments about ep 3
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5th February 2021, 09:45 PM
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Yeah, this is devastating.
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5th February 2021, 10:06 PM
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Brilliant. |
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5th February 2021, 10:06 PM
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I watched episode 3 tonight. I cried a few times. How unfair to that character. 😭😢☹️
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21st March 2021, 09:35 PM
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I've finally got round to watching this over the last few nights. In true Russell T Davies style it mixed hard-hitting drama with bits of humour when you least expected it. Brilliant performances all round, particularly from Olly Alexander and Lydia West. Stephen Fry was predictably brilliant as well. I assume that part was written with him in mind as he suited it so perfectly.
Ritchie's first year as a student in London coincided with my final year which made it even more of a difficult watch for me. I've often wondered how my life would have turned out if I had been openly gay at the time. |
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22nd March 2021, 05:19 PM
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Just a reminder of where Section 28 came from...
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25th October 2021, 01:56 PM
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Callum Scott Howells has won a Welsh BAFTA award for Best Actor for his portrayal of Colin.
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25th October 2021, 08:58 PM
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Very much deserved
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28th October 2021, 03:03 PM
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It deserves all the nominations and wins in EVERY category still one of the best shows I have ever watched!
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28th October 2021, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Oct 25 2021, 02:56 PM) Callum Scott Howells has won a Welsh BAFTA award for Best Actor for his portrayal of Colin. Truly elated. |
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