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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ Chart Replay: Shapeshifters vs. Rachel Stevens

Posted by: Medellíam Jul 18 2019, 09:22 PM





It's 15 years since Shapeshifters' 'Lola's Theme' and Rachel Stevens' 'Some Girls' occupied the Top 2.

'Lola's Theme' was the first single from house duo Shapeshifters, compromising of DJs Simon Marlin and Max Reich, with featured vocals from Cookie. Its production takes inspiration from old disco records and includes a sample of Johnnie Taylor's 'What About My Love'.

'Some Girls' was the lead for the re-release of Rachel Stevens' debut album and was chosen as the official Sports Relief single. It was written by Richard X and Hannah Robinson with Girls Aloud intended as the performers. Music manager Simon Fuller requested that the song be given to either of his acts, Geri Halliwell or Rachel Stevens. Legend has it that Geri locked herself in her car in protest when she was denied the song!

Both were tipped for #1, however the Sports Relief status of 'Some Girls' wasn't enough to overcome the strong radio play of 'Lola's Theme', with the latter debuting 9k higher on 52k. Total sales for 'Lola's Theme' now stand at 500k whilst 'Some Girls' remains below 200k.

15 years on, which is your favourite?

Posted by: Medellíam Jul 18 2019, 09:22 PM

Top 10
01 (NE) Shapeshifters - Lola's Theme
02 (NE) Rachel Stevens - Some Girls
03 (01) Usher - Burn
04 (NE) J-Kwon - Tipsy
05 (NE) Jamelia - See It in a Boy's Eyes
06 (NE) Morrissey - First of the Gang to Die
07 (02) Britney Spears - Everytime
08 (06) Nina Sky - Move Your Body
09 (09) O-Zone - Dragostea din tei
10 (07) Mario Winans feat. Enya & P. Diddy - I Don't Wanna Know

Top 40 New Entries
11 (NE) Flip & Fill feat. Karen Parry - Discoland
16 (NE) Marillion - Don't Hurt Yourself
23 (RE) Snow Patrol - Spitting Games
28 (NE) Counting Crows - Accidentally in Love
35 (NE) Velvet Revolver - Slither
37 (NE) Mull Historical Society - How 'Bout I Love You More
38 (NE) Bloc Party - Little Thoughts / Tullips
40 (NE) Nelly Furtado - Forca

Previous Chart Replays
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=223051
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=223497
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=223741
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=223972

Posted by: Jade Jul 18 2019, 09:26 PM

Both songs are really good but I've plumped for 'Lola's Theme' as that is one of the absolute best noughties dance songs for me, a summer playlist essential wub.gif

The quality of 'Some Girls' needs to be sorted out on YouTube laugh.gif I had no idea that Girls Aloud were intended as the performers ohmy.gif that could've been quite a moment. I did know about the Geri Halliwell thing though, I did a double-take when reading that on Wikipedia back in the day! Iconic.

Posted by: Medellíam Jul 18 2019, 09:26 PM

This is by far the hardest of the polls so far. 'Lola's Theme' is a classic Noughties dance song, so uplifting and absolutely gorgeous in the sunshine. 'Some Girls' was a such a childhood fave, possibly my favourite from Rachel Stevens, and I have strong memories of the video. In the end, I went with 'Some Girls' as I feel nostalgia just edges it.

QUOTE(Jade @ Jul 18 2019, 10:26 PM) *
The quality of 'Some Girls' needs to be sorted out on YouTube laugh.gif

Poor girl didn't even have her own Vevo page 11 months ago! laugh.gif

Posted by: coi Jul 18 2019, 09:28 PM

The Shapeshifters of course!

Posted by: Jade Jul 18 2019, 09:29 PM

Oh wait I had no idea that 'Some Girls' had actually been sorted out on YouTube at last!! Hallelujah, I remember trying to play it on plug a couple of times a few years ago and it was potato quality :') what a revelation this has been *.* about time!

Posted by: Jαsє Jul 18 2019, 09:30 PM

'Lola's Theme' EASILY. One of my fave ever dance songs wub.gif

Posted by: M4NG0 Jul 18 2019, 09:31 PM

Both great songs but Shapeshifters for me.

Posted by: Medellíam Jul 18 2019, 09:34 PM

QUOTE(Jade @ Jul 18 2019, 10:29 PM) *
Oh wait I had no idea that 'Some Girls' had actually been sorted out on YouTube at last!! Hallelujah, I remember trying to play it on plug a couple of times a few years ago and it was potato quality :') what a revelation this has been *.* about time!

I see! laugh.gif YouTube often does the dirty on noughties pop - I'm sure some Sugababes and Girls Aloud videos finish 30 seconds too early and I remember the 'Biology' video was shifted slightly so poor Nicola was cut out for the most part! :') Although I think that may have been sorted out now.

Posted by: Chez Wombat Jul 18 2019, 09:35 PM

QUOTE(Jade @ Jul 18 2019, 10:29 PM) *
Oh wait I had no idea that 'Some Girls' had actually been sorted out on YouTube at last!! Hallelujah, I remember trying to play it on plug a couple of times a few years ago and it was potato quality :') what a revelation this has been *.* about time!


Same can't be said for So Good alas, like the only song of hers I go back to and it's all backwards on there :'( I think it may have been taken down now.

Anyway, no contest at all - Lola's Theme is an absolute feelgood classic and one of the VERY few number 1s from that year that has aged really well wub.gif

Posted by: danG Jul 18 2019, 09:49 PM

lola’s theme definitely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: SevenSeize Jul 18 2019, 09:58 PM

voted Some Girls <3 pop magic

Posted by: lewistgreen Jul 18 2019, 10:01 PM

Remove my dance mod title now because I’ve gone for Some Girls. What an absolute bop that is!

Posted by: Nick F1 Jul 18 2019, 10:02 PM

dance classic ofc

Posted by: slowdown73 Jul 18 2019, 10:40 PM

Shapeshifters is a real classic!

Posted by: Bré Jul 19 2019, 01:15 AM

Shapeshifters, no question. If it was 'Sweet Dreams My LA Ex' it'd be a bit closer.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jul 19 2019, 01:19 AM

Shapeshifters.

Posted by: gavindeejay Jul 19 2019, 06:04 AM

Had to be Shapeshifters. One of the best dance hits of the 2000's imo!

Posted by: tommie Jul 19 2019, 06:43 AM

My beloved Danushka turned down Lola's Theme sad.gif

Posted by: Bjork Jul 19 2019, 06:55 AM

Lola's Theme by miles

oh the days when Morrissey could get top 10s so easily but First of the gang is a brilliant track, his best of the 00s

best newie in the t40 is Counting Crows - Accidentally in Love, brilliant songs and deserved much much better than low top 40

Posted by: sammy01 Jul 19 2019, 07:38 AM

Neither, I'll take See it in a boy's eyes instead. Now that is a truly great song and I'm not a Jamelia fan (who is?).

Posted by: ThePensmith Jul 19 2019, 07:53 AM

I always forget there was that weird time during the mid 00s when Morrissey was guaranteed a top 5 hit first week out with a new single laugh.gif Oh the pre-download era charts were such a bizarre thing.

My stanning for Rachel aside (I have a pretty much encyclopedic knowledge of her solo career it's terrifying), 'Some Girls' is an undeniably brilliant pop record even to this day, it's catchy, witty, quirky and a marker of why Richard X was one of the names in 00s electropop. That said, the video is awful and not my favourite of hers.

It was definitely a turning point for her as well because it's no secret she needed another hit on the scale of 'LA Ex' after 'Funky Dory' bombed as badly as it did (what 19 and Polydor thought they were doing not waiting until January to release it when it would have been an easy top 10 is beyond me. Releasing in the Christmas rush was stupid of them and immediately put her at risk because of how bitchy tabloids could be about any ex-pop group member flopping with solo stuff at this time. At least they learnt from their mistake with 'Some Girls' and turned it all around).

Having said all that...if Rachel did have to lose out on #1 I'm glad it was to Shapeshifters because 'Lola's Theme' was a brilliant record too and still is now. I really only tapped into its brilliance again a few years ago when Cookie, the vocalist on the track, re-recorded it for Pete Tong's Classical House album. For me it's one of the few dance records from that year that was actually enjoyable because of the music and not because of some trashy video and a lazy 80s house loop *cough*ERICPRYDZ*cough*

Also Jamelia at #4 wub.gif I actually picked up a 7" picture disc of 'See It In A Boy's Eyes' second hand at a record fair recently. Shame it seems to be forgotten now because by rights it should be a modern classic.

Posted by: Bjork Jul 19 2019, 07:59 AM

yes the Jamelia one was great too
If I remember well, thats written by Chris Martin and he even sings in the song but he wasn't credited, which sure would have helped the track if he had been or better if it had been a proper duet

Posted by: ThePensmith Jul 19 2019, 08:00 AM

QUOTE(Jade @ Jul 18 2019, 10:26 PM) *
Both songs are really good but I've plumped for 'Lola's Theme' as that is one of the absolute best noughties dance songs for me, a summer playlist essential wub.gif

The quality of 'Some Girls' needs to be sorted out on YouTube laugh.gif I had no idea that Girls Aloud were intended as the performers ohmy.gif that could've been quite a moment. I did know about the Geri Halliwell thing though, I did a double-take when reading that on Wikipedia back in the day! Iconic.


I was about to say Rachel got a VEVO last year, with all her videos on, although it's curiously geoblocked in countries outside the UK.

And yes the Geri wanting 'Some Girls' story is true. She locked herself in her car outside Richard's studio writing him a love poem pleading to have it. He and Hannah Robinson who wrote 'Some Girls' then subsequently wrote a song about that whole episode for Norwegian singer Annie called 'Me Plus One' (listen to the lyrics carefully enough and it becomes apparent who it's about laugh.gif)


Posted by: T Boy Jul 19 2019, 10:05 AM

I really enjoy both but Lola’s Theme definitely has the edge.

I always thought it was obvious that Shapeshifters were going to go to no.1. It was really jarring when Now 58 chose Rachel as the opening track over them.

Posted by: gooddelta Jul 19 2019, 10:13 AM

Lola's Theme is one of my all-time favourite songs and I remember being obsessed with it for weeks before release and even remember buying it from Asda on release day, how on earth was that 15 years ago? drama.gif

I don't recall it being a foregone conclusion it would be No.1 though, I definitely remember being a little worried it would stall at No.2 behind Rachel.

Some Girls is a strong song for sure too though and was a great recovery for Rachel. She was looking to be a one-hit wonder after the failure of Funky Dory but this track gave her career a few more years' life.

Posted by: Jordan Lee Jul 19 2019, 10:15 AM

Interesting to see the other artists who could’ve gotten Some Girls.

It could’ve revived Geris solo career or given Girls Aloud a big boost.

I went for Some Girls though.

But this was the hardest replay poll a great top 2!

Posted by: tommie Jul 19 2019, 10:32 AM

QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Jul 19 2019, 07:53 AM) *
I always forget there was that weird time during the mid 00s when Morrissey was guaranteed a top 5 hit first week out with a new single laugh.gif Oh the pre-download era charts were such a bizarre thing.


True, this was basically in the dying days of the physical single where numbers just kept getting lower and lower each week.

Now we're in the dying days of the digital download format... pirate.gif

Posted by: Bjork Jul 19 2019, 10:40 AM

So Good is not on Spotify? can only find a weird 10 minute remix

Posted by: dobbo Jul 19 2019, 11:57 AM

Both VERY good songs. I have fond memories of this period as my first conscious memories of listening to the Chart Show was this very week!

Have to give it to Lola's Theme but Some Girls is a brilliant pop track as well.

Posted by: Medellíam Jul 19 2019, 12:33 PM

QUOTE(Bjork @ Jul 19 2019, 11:40 AM) *
So Good is not on Spotify? can only find a weird 10 minute remix

I believe the album Come & Get It is only available in the UK so might that be why you can't find it?

Posted by: Bjork Jul 19 2019, 12:48 PM

^yeps, thanks

Posted by: Sailor Steve Jul 19 2019, 12:49 PM

Lola's Theme is excellent but Some Girls will always have my heart, what a triumph of a pop song!!

See It in a Boy's Eyes in the top 10 too wub.gif

Posted by: pippa Jul 19 2019, 12:53 PM

Lolas theme is such a memorable hit.

Posted by: dobbo Jul 19 2019, 04:05 PM

5 new entries in the top 6. Would NEVER happen now laugh.gif so many memorable ones in that top 40 too:

Tipsy was MASSIVE in my school at the time, 1 to the 2 to the 3 to the 4 every day lol
Discoland is amazing, seems very out of place as late as 2004 tho!

Posted by: Houdini Jul 19 2019, 06:33 PM

QUOTE(dobbo @ Jul 19 2019, 05:05 PM) *
5 new entries in the top 6. Would NEVER happen now laugh.gif so many memorable ones in that top 40 too:

Tipsy was MASSIVE in my school at the time, 1 to the 2 to the 3 to the 4 every day lol
Discoland is amazing, seems very out of place as late as 2004 tho!

Do you prefer the chart nowadays or how it was back then?

Posted by: dobbo Jul 19 2019, 06:39 PM

Tough to say really. I think I'd have to say back then just because of there was much more variety in the charts (particularly in the dance genre), they were quicker paced & the songs in general I largely preferred (of course songs from 15 years ago have the nostalgia factor to add in).

On the flip side, the #1s were just as predictable as they are now, arguably even more so due to heldback releases [2000 & 2014 being the worst culprits] and for every awful song that would quickly vanish from the chart, a song you loved would be a #1 then tank out of the top 40 after 6 or 7 weeks, that certainly doesn't happen anymore!

Posted by: Euphorique Jul 20 2019, 01:52 PM

I've always disliked "Lola's Theme", so quite easily Rachel here.

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