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Michael Bubré
post Aug 26 2014, 09:21 PM
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As much as I always thought it was a winner IN MY HEART, I'm still rather shocked at 'Cry For Freedom' actually winning as I still think it doesn't sound like a BJSC *hit* let alone a winner. On that subject, what winners do you think sound the least like, well, winners?

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BJSC I: Mdiče: Britney Spears - And Then We Kiss
BJSC II: Bokia: Katherine McPhee - Dangerous
BJSC III: Bhangra: Dixie Chicks - Not Ready To Make Nice
BJSC IV: FSR Rontvia: Sara Bareilles - Love Song
BJSC V: Elëdan: t.A.T.u - Gomenasai
BJSC VI: Quotosibb: Beverley Knight - Black Butta (Live)
BJSC VII: Mdiče: Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl
BJSC VIII: Nonsuch: Lily Allen - Guess Who Batman
BJSC IX: Kingdom of Shadow: Margaret Berger - Will You Remember Me Tomorrow?
BJSC X: Mdiče: Brandy - Right Here (Departed)
BJSC XI: Elëdan: Lenka - The Show
BJSC XII: Kopečka: La Roux - Quicksand
BJSC XIII: Herzebania: Agnes - Release Me
BJSC XIV: FSR Rontvia: Uh Huh Her - Not A Love Song
BJSC XV: Mdiče: Röyksopp feat. Robyn - The Girl and the Robot
BJSC XVI: Mdiče: VV Brown - Shark In The Water
BJSC XVII: FSR Rontvia: Beautiful Small Machines - Robots In Love
BJSC XVIII: Mdiče: Ke$ha - TiK ToK/Dolla
BJSC XIX: Kathaldazia: Eva Simons - Silly Boy
BJSC XX: Numayania: Alphabeat - The Spell
BJSC XXI: Lorikeet: Dolly Rockers - Boys Will Be Boys
BJSC XXII: B.a.N.G: Ellie Goulding - Under The Sheets
BJSC XXIII: Quotosibb: Marina & The Diamonds - Hollywood
BJSC XXIV: B.a.N.G: Delphic - Halcyon
BJSC XXV: Hendinia: Roll Deep feat. Jodie Connor - Good Times
BJSC XXVI: FSR Rontvia: Sheelah - Psycho
BJSC XXVII: Kopečka: Eric Saade - It's Gonna Rain
BJSC XXVIII: Ashton: Molly Sandén - Mitt Liv Är Mitt
BJSC XXIX: Yuxhaaq: Zoe Badwi - Freefallin'
BJSC XXX: Hendinia: Adele - Someone Like You (Live)
BJSC XXXI: FSR Rontvia: Sheelah - The Last Time
BJSC XXXII: FSR Rontvia: Lykke Li - Sadness Is A Blessing
BJSC XXXIII: Batidas: Agnes Obel - Riverside
BJSC XXXIV: Herzebania: Charice - Louder
BJSC XXXV: FSR Rontvia: Chart Music - All My Life
BJSC XXXVI: Isconia: Lana Del Rey - Video Games
BJSC XXXVII: Farahtyn: Jessica Mauboy - Inescapable
BJSC XXXVIII: Kopečka: Loreen - Sober
BJSC XXXIX: Hendinia: Ricki-Lee - Raining Diamonds
BJSC XL: Greenfroze: Rachel Platten - 1000 Ships
BJSC XLI: Fljótavík: Foxes - Youth
BJSC XLII: Botanikka: Emma Hewitt - Colours
BJSC XLIII: Numayania: Dragonette - Let It Go
BJSC XLIV: Elëdan: Ronya - Hyperventilating
BJSC XLV: Ingermanlandia: Woodkid - Run Boy Run
BJSC XLVI: Aeroche: Trentemřller feat. Ane Trolle - Moan
BJSC XLVII: Aeroche: Trust - Sulk
BJSC XLVIII: Aeroche: Unicorn Kid - Need U
BJSC XLIX: Fljótavík: Fibes, Oh Fibes! feat. Icona Pop - Cerahtonia
BJSC L: Numayania: Frida Sundemo - Indigo
BJSC LI: Aeroche: Kate Boy - Northern Lights
BJSC LII: Batidas: Zara Larsson - Uncover
BJSC LIII: #00274E: Carli - Look Up (Original Mix)
BJSC LIV: Skall: Postiljonen - Supreme
BJSC LV: Caerfyrddia: Marcel Woods feat. Vanbot - Bring It Back
BJSC LVI: Trifoski: Ghost Loft - So High
BJSC LVII: Syndare: Belanger - Take Me Home
BJSC LVIII: Fljótavík: VAULTS - Cry No More
BJSC LIX: Trifoski: The Kite String Tangle - Given The Chance
BJSC LX: Elëdan: Cut Copy - Meet Me In A House Of Love
BJSC LXI: Daehun: Indila - Derničre Danse
BJSC LXII: FARC: SOHN - Artifice
BJSC LXIII: Elëdan: RuPaul - Sissy That Walk
BJSC LXIV: FSR Rontvia: RAM & Susana - RAMelia (Tribute To Amelia)
BJSC LXV: N DNTN: Hervé x Zebra Katz - Tear The House Up
BJSC LXVI: Aeroche: A.G. Cook - Beautiful
BJSC LXVII: Persephonia: Jay Dabhi and Moises Modesto - Cry For Freedom

Aside from my own (and early songs which would go down like a lead balloon if they were sent today but made more sense at the time I suppose) I'd say Trentemřller, Postiljonen and Ghost Loft are the songs that sounded the least like winners. (I know Postiljonen was a widely predicted winner and I did vote for it and all but I still think it sounds a little too 'subtle' to be a BJSC winner, pop or not most of the winners are at least catchy/memorable/standout whereas 'Supreme', as lovely as it is to listen to, kind of blends in a bit in my memory).
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post Aug 26 2014, 09:27 PM
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Moan by quite a distance.

If it'd been sent the contest before it might not have even qualified
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post Aug 26 2014, 09:28 PM
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I'd replace Postiljonen with N DNTN's winner, also Charice - Louder was quite a surprising/underwhelming winner IIRC.
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post Aug 26 2014, 09:30 PM
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I just smile everytime I see myself in the list of winners.
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post Aug 26 2014, 09:31 PM
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(On a related note is 'Cry For Freedom' the first ever instrumental winner? I had it in my mind that FSR Rontvia won with an instrumental once but I just checked and it appears they didn't, I may be overlooking something else though).

I do remember the surprise at Charice winning, I don't think I paid much attention to that contest though. Don't remember the song at all.
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post Aug 26 2014, 09:34 PM
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> Not A Love Song (snuck through due to everything else in the top ten being handpicked off the new release schedule)
> Louder (woefully basic)
> Dangerous (still don't get how this won, even though it was only the second contest)
> Halcyon (a random indielectro male song winning in 2010 was definitely not on the cards)
> Right Here (Departed) (boring R&B - and BJSCX was such high quality, there could have been 20 stronger/more iconic winners than that)
> Freefallin'/Inescapable (Auspop filler - Jess has so many better songs)
> Let It Go (hardly that standout and certainly not when play was in the mix).
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post Aug 26 2014, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE({ bré } @ Aug 26 2014, 10:31 PM) *
(On a related note is 'Cry For Freedom' the first ever instrumental winner? I had it in my mind that FSR Rontvia won with an instrumental once but I just checked and it appears they didn't, I may be overlooking something else though).


I've come top five with instrumentals three times - Colors/Platinum Chains/Flares but I think you're the first to win with one!
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post Aug 26 2014, 09:38 PM
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Moan (obviously) / Unicorn Kid / Ghost Loft / Belanger / A.G. Cook / Kite String Tangle / Herve x Zebra Katz

the latter two did sound like they'd do well but not winner worthy, just Top 10 at a push. i didn't think ghost loft sounded like a big hit in any capacity really (hence why i tried to send it to bjfest) and with unicorn kid / belanger / a.g cook that pitched up abrasive vocals and hi-nrg were pretty anti-bjsc
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post Aug 26 2014, 09:39 PM
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Beautiful sounded like a clear winner the first time you showed it to me, it has that 'je ne sais quoi'. Agree with Tear The House Up though, that sneaking a win really surprised me.
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post Aug 26 2014, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(gooddelta @ Aug 26 2014, 10:35 PM) *
I've come top five with instrumentals three times - Colors/Platinum Chains/Flares but I think you're the first to win with one!


I think I was thinking of 'Flares' - not sure why I thought that was a winner! 'Platinum Chains' should have won though. heart.gif

The complete lack of previous instrumental winners makes my surprise at 'Cry For Freedom' even greater, it's not even like it was a niche winner, being the 2nd biggest of the year ohmy.gif

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'Beautiful' definitely sounded instantly like a winner to my ears! Same with 'Need U' and 'Northern Lights' (and I kinda figured 'Sulk' would win just based on how many fans it had but you know my feelings on that song ~)
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Echoing Ghost Loft / Herve x Zebra Katz / Trentemoller as the first ones that come to mind. Run Boy Run as well, ofc. it was brilliant and had a lot of hype behind it, but a throaty male vocal led song with not a synth in sight and entirely string and percussion based doesn't sound like a winner, maybe a surprise top 10 for being different at best.

Black Butter also from the early ones, hardly sounds like the sort of female pop Buzzjack love and it was a live track?


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Both of Numayania's winners from 2012. Still don't get how they won, even at the time they sounded like top 10s rather than winners.

Delphic's Halcyon looks very out of place as a winner amongst all the generic fempop winners of the time, how did that win exactly? Not complaining though.

Moan, So High, Tear the House Up and Cry For Freedom too as already mentioned.
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:06 PM
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I would say this being like the only person who called it as a winner (#mysticbra) but 'Tear The House Up' wasn't a surprise winner to me, I suppose on paper it doesn't really seem like the type to win (male rap without a poppy hook a la 'Good Times') but the complete package sounded exactly like the sort of song that'd have fairly wide appeal and a decent number of big fans. IDK though. It was a very lucky low scoring winner really so I suppose it's one of the least winnerish winners for that reason alone.

Actually 'Good Times' is another one for this, even with the poppy hook I'm surprised BuzzJack ever voted for a track involving Wiley and co en masse laugh.gif I don't remember it being hugely well loved in the chart forum when it became a hit either.
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:20 PM
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bre you should do a spreadsheet of bjsc instrumentals! would be interesting to see what the most successful are (gesaffelstein hay)
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(♒ chris @ Aug 26 2014, 11:20 PM) *
bre you should do a spreadsheet of bjsc instrumentals! would be interesting to see what the most successful are (gesaffelstein hay)


The difficulty with that is you can't really tell what is and isn't instrumental from the title alone ~ Let's just leave it at Jay Dabhi > everyone else.
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:28 PM
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damn me and my 5 NEAR instrumentals
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:33 PM
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I nominate mine, which both DNQ'd, and link them to remind everyone.

I'm surprised I've only sent 2 instrumentals to be honest! (homemade John Cage covers don't count)

On the actual topic, Ghost Loft surprise me the most. And I still don't understand SOHN and Fibes, Oh Fibes - not because I don't like them but because they sound so indistinct/unmemorable. You've got winners that don't sound like winners because they're so unlikely and different, and then you've gone winners that don't like winners because they don't stand out much (in my opinion!).


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post Aug 26 2014, 10:53 PM
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Both of those songs are great Harve! Though 'Reset' was a pretty obvious DNQ (which is absolutely not the case for Todd Terje)

I've sent 3 complete instrumentals (Orphic Oxtra, Quirke and Jay Dabhi) and another 2 that are more or less instrumental but have small vocal parts (Kidnap Kid and Surkin). 4/5 Q rate out of those lot and Orphic Oxtra wasn't exactly a serious entry anyway. Not too bad.

(oops drifting from the point of the thread)
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:59 PM
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2 #2s and a #8-- dntn king of instrumentals
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