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post Dec 14 2014, 12:07 PM
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Pixies - Doolittle

25 years old this continues to have an influence long after Kurt Cobain first plundered their loud quiet aesthetic for Nevermind and made a mint.

This album continues to be an absolute favourite of mine.
I saw the band in Kentish Town on the UK tour supporting the record and it remains my abolute favourite gig ever. So much ferocious energy.

Do these bring any more memories flooding back?





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post Dec 16 2014, 08:23 AM
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I got this on vinyl in Dusseldorf a few weeks ago. I still haven't to listened to it yet.

It's obviously one of THE most influential albums. I love it - probably in my Top 30 albums ever. I do also love Bossanova, almost as equally.


I went to see them last year and they failed to play any of the well known songs from this album - I dont know if it counts as a Pixies gig if they don't play Debaser, Monkey Gone to Heaven, Here Comes Your Man, or Wave of Mutilation sad.gif

I dont even want to get into the Pixies/Nirvana debate. :angry face:


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post Dec 16 2014, 08:54 AM
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I don't think it was ever Kurt Cobain's intention to make a mint - but he did indeed base Smells Like Teen Spirit on the Pixies blueprint...he just made it too damn radio-friendly!

No point in having a Pixies / Nirvana debate now as there never ever was one back when the bands were around.

Doolittle is a great album though - one everyone should have. That probably goes for all Pixies albums...although Trompe Le Monde, hmm....

My favourite Pixies song is not on this LP though - that'd be Velouria from Bossanova.
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post Dec 16 2014, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(richie @ Dec 16 2014, 08:54 AM) *
I don't think it was ever Kurt Cobain's intention to make a mint - but he did indeed base Smells Like Teen Spirit on the Pixies blueprint...he just made it too damn radio-friendly!

No point in having a Pixies / Nirvana debate now as there never ever was one back when the bands were around.

Doolittle is a great album though - one everyone should have. That probably goes for all Pixies albums...although Trompe Le Monde, hmm....

My favourite Pixies song is not on this LP though - that'd be Velouria from Bossanova.



I suppose it's still my bafflement that Planet of Sound was released just months before Smells Like Teen Spirit and it is so much better sad.gif
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post Dec 16 2014, 12:37 PM
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Not as catchy though. Ironically that was Pixies getting heavier, almost as if they were rebelling against their popularity and Nirvana took their former 'blueprint' and had a massive hit.
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post Dec 16 2014, 07:31 PM
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It's the same age as me, but is one of my favourite albums of all time. I bought it (and 'Grace') when, IIRC, Channel 4 did a best ever albums poll and they both finished fairly high? It is flawless. Might be predictable but Debaser is such a brilliant song, my favourite of theirs.
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post Dec 17 2014, 09:05 AM
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Was that the Channel 4 one with John Peel, Jo Whiley and Bob Geldof? Both Buckley and Pixies were in there I think, but not massively high up.
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post Dec 17 2014, 09:11 AM
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That was it. I recorded that on video and watched it several times.

(personal comment) Dog Man Star featured. I dont think The Holy Bible did.


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post Dec 17 2014, 10:11 AM
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Yes, it was very random which ones they chose. There was a good featurette of John Peel driving about listening to Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica.

I do remember going out and buying both Joy Division albums after seeing that show. I was also really upset that The Stone Roses was at number 2 and that the Spice Girls were in the top 100 at all.
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post Dec 17 2014, 01:07 PM
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It was voted for by Channel 4 viewers and possibly HMV customers.
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post Dec 17 2014, 01:19 PM
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I know - hence the stupidly high position for the Stone Roses LP. It's right that it's in the top 100 but not number 2*

* - pretty sure this is exactly what Geldof said.
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post Dec 17 2014, 01:53 PM
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Yep - it was number 2 but I guess post-Oasis, a lot of people were investigating their influences.

I disagreed with The Bends being at number 4.
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post Dec 18 2014, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(AntoineTTe @ Dec 17 2014, 01:53 PM) *
Yep - it was number 2 but I guess post-Oasis, a lot of people were investigating their influences.


Nah, I think it's that a lot of people who got into the Roses in their teens were still in their twenties and still likely to vote in these things. The Roses, despite being absent for a long time, were still played like crazy in indie clubs.

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I disagreed with The Bends being at number 4.


Very much of its time - Radiohead were huge and this was considered more a connoisseur's choice than 'Ok Computer' which I think was also top 10? If the same poll were conducted today we would see plenty LPs in the list that are popular now but will not stand the test of time. Both Adele's albums would be high right now, but in 2034 I doubt either would even make it to a top 100 of all time.
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post Dec 18 2014, 12:10 PM
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Oh, I agree. I'm around long enough to have noticed these things.

Paul Gambaccini commented as much when he saw The Verve's A Norther Soul in the chart.

Yep - OK Computer was Top 10.

The other comments I remember were Justine saying she didn't think Oasis lyrics were very inspiring and Bob Geldof disagreeing. Jo Wiley had never heard of Captain Beefheart. John Peel thought Pulp's Different Class was a revelation.

He said he was mystified by the success of Jagged Little Pill. He said that Dark Side of the Moon sounded like the most modern record in the bottom half of the top 10. Bob said he thought Radiohead's footage of Paranoid Android live already looked like classic footage.

Justine said it was good that the least successful but most interesting Suede album made the 100 and not the other two.
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post Dec 18 2014, 12:43 PM
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I wish I still had my VHS copy - that brings back a lot of memories...and, yes, I remember John Peel saying Dark Side of the Moon sounded the most modern thing in the top 10. I watched it with my student flatmates and we all went "wow!" when we heard the Floyd oscillations.
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post Dec 18 2014, 03:14 PM
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You recorded it too? smile.gif I remember it was repeated and I recorded it and paused recording without the ad breaks.
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post Dec 18 2014, 08:58 PM
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Found it on vimeo

http://vimeo.com/user11445818/videos

http://vimeo.com/user11452265
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post Dec 19 2014, 08:47 AM
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Excellent find, thanks Grebo!
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Will have to watch that.

Back to the album, there was a fairly signifigant time where this album and R.E.M.'s Green were [retty much the only things I listened to. Although I will always prefer Surfer Rosa as that's the first I knew of them, this remains a classic.

As for the Nirvana thing, Kurt was quite happy at the time to admit he stole the quiet-loud-quiet dynamic from them, no-one cared at the time.
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post Dec 25 2014, 12:02 AM
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Brilliant!
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