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post Jan 11 2015, 11:53 AM
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Hello folks.

I thought I'd share a way that I like to record hits in my chart records. Instead of logging the number twos, number threes etc, I think: what is the biggest hit this week that isn't a number one? Some weeks it's the number two, others the number two song is on the way down from or up to number one, in which case it's the number three. Often it's even lower.

So to make it really clear, here's a random week from two years ago:

1 1 4 James Arthur Impossible
2 2 4 will.i.am and Britney Spears Scream & Shout - at the time, this would have been the 'nearly' number one, but it was about to peak higher, so is excluded
3 3 18 PSY Gangnam Style
4 6 8 Bruno Mars Locked Out Of Heaven - this week's 'nearly' number one
5 7 12 Taylor Swift I Knew You Were Trouble.
6 4 7 Olly Murs feat. Flo Rida Troublemaker
7 12 4 Rihanna feat. Mikky Ekko Stay
8 8 14 Rihanna Diamonds
9 11 13 Swedish House Mafia feat. John Martin Don't You Worry Child
10 10 13 Labrinth feat. Emeli Sandé Beneath Your Beautiful

I won't post the full week-by-week list now, but below are the 'nearly' number ones that have spent longest at the top by number of weeks. You'll notice that, like the number one list, it's quite 50s heavy, but there have been some long stayers in the last few years. Enjoy!

12 weeks:
Frank Chacksfield - limelight (1953)

8 weeks:
Mario Lanza - because you're mine (1952)
Obernkirchen Children's Choir - the happy wanderer (1954)
Al Hibbler - unchained melody (1955)
Elvis Presley - hound dog (1956)
Pat Boone - don't forbid me (1957)
Allisons - are you sure (1961)
Peter Andre - mysterious girl (1996) - it made number one in a separate chart run, so is included
John Legend - all of me (2014)

7 weeks:
Nat King Cole - smile (1954)
Hilltoppers - only you (1956)
Nat King Cole - when i fall in love (1957)
Pat Boone - love letters in the sand (1957)
Elvis Presley - mess of blues (1960)
T.Rex - jeepster (1971)
All-4-One - i swear (1994)
Kate Nash - foundations (2007)
Eminem feat Rihanna - love the way you lie (2010)
Maroon 5 feat Christina Aguilera - moves like jagger (2011)

6 weeks:
Al Martino - now (1953)
Frankie Laine - blowing wild (1954)
Frankie Laine - cool water (1955)
Four Aces - love is a many-splendoured thing (1955)
Lou Busch - zambezi (1956)
Frankie Vaughan - green door (1956)
Danny and the Juniors - at the hop (1958)
Lonnie Donegan - tom dooley (1958)
Neil Sedaka - oh! carol (1959)
Shirley Bassey - as long as he needs me (1960)
Drifters - save the last dance for me (1960)
Cliff Richard and the Shadows - i'm looking out the window / do you want to dance (1962)
Beatles - please please me (1963)
Ned Miller - from a jack to a king (1963)
Jim Reeves - i won't forget you (1964)
Kenny Rogers - ruby, don't take your love to town (1969)
McGuinness and Flint - when i'm dead and gone (1970)
Mixtures - pushbike song (1971)
Dr Hook - a little bit more (1976)
Brighouse and Rastrick Brass Band - floral dance (1977)
Father Abraham and the Smurfs - smurf song (1978)
Wham! - last christmas / everything she wants (1984)
Right Said Fred - i'm too sexy (1991)
Michael Jackson - heal the world (1992)
Bon Jovi - always (1994)
Bruno Mars - locked out of heaven (2012)

5 weeks:
Nat King Cole - pretend (1953)
Frankie Laine - where the wind blows (1953)
Mantovani - swedish rhapsody (1953)
Billy Cotton and his Band - friends and neighbours (1954)
Perry Como - idle gossip (1954)
David Whitfield - santo natale (1954)
Ruby Murray - heartbeat (1955)
Frank Sinatra - learning' the blues (1955)
Harry Belafonte - banana boat song (1957)
Johnny Otis Show - ma, he's making eyes at me (1957)
Elias and his Zig-Zag Jive Flutes - tom hark (1958)
Dean Martin - return to me (1958)
Marty Wilde - a teenager in love (1959)
Paul Anka - lonely boy (1959)
Chubby Checker - let's twist again (1962)
Joe Brown and the Bruvvers - a picture of you (1962)
Pat Boone - speedy gonzales (1962)
Shadows - atlantis (1963)
Bachelors - i believe (1964)
Cliff Richard - wind me up (let me go) (1965)
Tom Jones - i'll never fall in love again (1967)
Barry Ryan - eloise (1968)
Andy Williams - can't help falling in love (1970)
Free - all right now (1970)
Rolling Stones - brown sugar / bitch / let it rock (1971)
New Seekers - never ending song of love (1971)
Neil Reid - mother of mine (1972)
Drifters - there goes my first love (1975)
Barry Biggs - sideshow (1977)
Roxy Music - dance away (1979)
Freeez - iou (1983)
Erasure - crackers international ep (1988)
Jason Donovan - when you come back to me (1989)
2Unlimited - get ready for this (1991)
Snow - informer (1993)
Kelis - milkshake (2004)
La Roux - in for the kill (2009)
Passenger - let her go (2013)
Avicii - hey brother (2013)
Taylor Swift - shake it off (2014)

4 weeks:
Bing Crosby - isle of innisfree (1952)
Winifred Atwell - let's have a party (1953)
Frankie Laine - my friend (1954)
Lonnie Donegan - lost john (1956)
Tony Martin - walk hand in hand (1956)
Pat Boone - friendly persuasion (1957)
Elvis Presley - party (1957)
Dean Martin - volare (1958)
Lonnie Donegan - the battle of new orleans (1959)
Everly Brothers - ('til) i kissed you (1959)
Cliff Richard and the Shadows - a voice in the wilderness (1960)
Adam Faith - someone else's baby (1960)
Connie Francis - mama / robot man (1960)
Shadows - frightened city (1961)
Billy Fury - halfway to paradise (1961)
Jimmy Dean - big bad john (1961)
Helen Shapiro - tell me what he said (1962)
Chris Montez - let's dance (1962)
Crystals - then he kissed me (1963)
Freddie and the Dreamers - you were made for me (1963)
Swinging Blue Jeans - hippy hippy shake (1964)
Dave Clark Five - bits and pieces (1964)
Petula Clark - downtown (1964)
Hollies - i can't let go (1966)
Beach Boys - god only knows (1966)
Seekers - morningtown ride (1966)
Engelbert Humperdinck - there goes my everything (1967)
Dave Clark Five - everybody knows (1967)
Beatles - magical mystery tour ep (1967)
Tom Jones - delilah (1968)
Herb Alpert - this guy's in love with you (1968)
Casuals - jesamine (1968)
Foundations - build me up buttercup (1968)
Stevie Wonder - for once in my life (1969)
Mary Hopkin - goodbye (1969)
Moody Blues - question (1970)
Sweet - co-co (1971)
Nancy and Lee - did you ever (1971)
Redbone - witch queen of new orleans (1971)
Don McLean - american pie (1972)
New Seekers - beg, steal or borrow (1972)
10CC - donna (1972)
David Bowie - life on mars (1973)
Hollies - the air that i breathe (1974)
Minnie Riperton - loving' you (1975)
Showaddywaddy - three steps to heaven (1975)
Ray Stevens - misty (1975)
Roger Whittaker - the last farewell (1975)
Hot Chocolate - you sexy thing (1975)
Leo Sayer - you make me feel like dancing (1976)
Heatwave - boogie nights (1977)
Showaddywaddy - you got what it takes (1977)
Space - magic fly (1977)
La Belle Epoque - black is black (1977)
Blondie - denis (1978)
Darts - boy from new york city (1978)
Darts - it's raining (1978)
Elvis Costello and the Attractions - oliver's army (1979)
BA Robertson - bang bang (1979)
Abba - i have a dream (1979)
Lipps Inc - funky town (1980)
Jona Lewie - stop the cavalry (1980)
Ultravox - vienna (1981)
Shakin' Stevens - you drive me crazy (1981)
Cliff Richard - daddy's home (1981)
Stranglers - golden brown (1982)
Soft Cell - torch (1982)
Yazoo - don't go (1982)
Black Lace - agadoo (1984)
Ray Parker Jr - ghostbusters (1984)
King - love and pride (1985)
Tears for Fears - everybody wants to rule the world (1985)
Harold Faltermeyer - axel f (1985)
A-Ha - take on me (1985)
Sinitta - so macho / cruising (1986)
Jermain Stewart - we don't have to... (1986)
Judy Boucher - can't be with you tonight (1987)
Bruce Willis - under the boardwalk (1987)
George Harrison - got my mind set on you (1987)
Bros - drop the boy (1988)
Kylie Minogue - the locomotion (1988)
Womack and Womack - teardrops (1988)
Simply Red - if you don't know me by now (1989)
Milli Vanilli - girl i'm gonna miss you (1989)
Technotronic - get up (before the night is over) (1990)
Luciano Pavarotti - nessun dorma (1990)
James - sit down (1991)
Ace of Base - the sign (1994)
N-Trance - set you free (1995)
Bobby Brown - two can play that game (1995)
Boyzone - father and son (1995)
Robert Miles - children (1996)
Sarah Brightman and Andrea Bocelli - time to say goodbye (con te par tiro) (1997)
Chumbawamba - tubthumping (1997)
Janet Jackson - together again (1997)
DJ Jurgen press Alice Deejay - better off alone (1999)
Baha Men - who let the dogs out (2000)
Cheeky Girls - cheeky song (touch my bum) (2002)
Destiny's Child - lose my breath (2004)
Daniel Powter - bad day (2005)
Avril Lavigne - girlfriend (2007)
Take That - rule the world (2007)
Script - the man who can't be moved (2008)
Sam Sparro - black and gold (2008)
Katy Perry - teenage dream (2010)
Ed Sheeran - the a team (2011)
Chris Brown - don't wake me up (2012)
Pink feat Nate Ruess - just give me a reason (2013)


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post Jan 11 2015, 06:31 PM
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Nearly number ones are best represented by sales tbh

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post Jan 11 2015, 06:52 PM
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Hi Taizu, I'm really interested to read about your idea and learn more about your method, as I have done a very similar thing for my own benefit. My method was to start with the first week of the chart and note down the highest placed single that wasn't already on my list. So a new entry at number was always add straight to my list, but if a song stayed there then I moved down to the 2 or 3 or whatever. My method leads to a list of between 51 and 53 hits for all full chart years, which I've always felt to be more fair and consistent than the lists of chart toppers, which gives the impression of 12 hits being had in 1984 and 1992, but 48 in 2000! If I understand your method correctly you strike out everything that has reached 1, is at 1, or will reach 1, and note the highest non-chart topper? This would mean that your method could never be fully implemented for say a chart publication since you would have to keep revising past weeks as things climb to the top and became retroactively ineligible. My chart works on a week-by-week basis without needing to be revised, however my list gives no indication of longevity for any hit, so yours is better for that particular measure. You can see how method pans out for most of the teenies by looking at my webpage here: http://www.spanglefish.com/webbyswonderful...p?pageid=288578 although I have been putting updates on hold for a while now whilst I debate whether to use the pure sales chart or combined main chart in future.
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