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post Jan 12 2015, 07:34 PM
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/ga...ns-9973035.html

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David Cameron could block WhatsApp and Snapchat if he wins the next election, as part of his plans for new surveillance powers announced in the wake of the shootings in Paris.

The Prime Minister said today that he would stop the use of methods of communication that cannot be read by the security services even if they have a warrant. But that could include popular chat and social apps that encrypt their data, such as WhatsApp.

Apple's iMessage and FaceTime also encrypt their data, and could fall under the ban along with other encrypted chat apps like Telegram.


What do you guys think of this? I don't use these apps often but it would be a very unpopular move considering how popular Snapchat is. I understand he's trying to prevent terror attacks but terrorists will just use some other method of communication.
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post Jan 12 2015, 07:36 PM
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NO.

GOD NO.
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post Jan 12 2015, 07:38 PM
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post Jan 12 2015, 07:42 PM
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Hmm this is sensationalist paper talk. I think it's likely that they would just change the way data is encrypted/stored rather than banning them outright.

That said this is a reason why young people need to vote. Governments walk all over us because we let them, as generally we're too lazy/don't care. Hence why the oldies always benefit and we don't!!!
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post Jan 12 2015, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Jan 12 2015, 07:42 PM) *
Hmm this is sensationalist paper talk. I think it's likely that they would just change the way data is encrypted/stored rather than banning them outright.

That said this is a reason why young people need to vote. Governments walk all over us because we let them, as generally we're too lazy/don't care. Hence why the oldies always benefit and we don't!!!


I've became much more involved in politics since the Referendum and I will vote at the election, it will be interesting to see the results of the Scottish votes as I think SNP will dominate.
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post Jan 12 2015, 07:45 PM
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Is he mental?
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post Jan 12 2015, 07:49 PM
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Wow. What a complete and utter c**t. I just can't. This is the European Union, not North Korea.

Surely this is illegal under EU law.
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This thread makes me feel ancients since I use none of those things ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Wall-e @ Jan 12 2015, 07:44 PM) *
I've became much more involved in politics since the Referendum and I will vote at the election, it will be interesting to see the results of the Scottish votes as I think SNP will dominate.

I agree that the SNP are going to do rather well in a post-referendum Scotland.
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I doubt this will actually happen but imagine if it did ohmy.gif It's bad enough that he has the idea though, shame I can't vote in the next general election (as I'll still be 17) but where I live we've had the MP be a conservative for over 40 years, so I'd be surprised if someone else wins this time around.
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QUOTE(► ▲ N @ Jan 12 2015, 07:34 PM) *
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/ga...ns-9973035.html
What do you guys think of this? I don't use these apps often but it would be a very unpopular move considering how popular Snapchat is. I understand he's trying to prevent terror attacks but terrorists will just use some other method of communication.


Yes, but he is either too dim to realise that or thinks that most voters will be too dim to work it out. No doubt the Daily Mail will support him and that's his main concern.

QUOTE(Rooney @ Jan 12 2015, 07:42 PM) *
Hmm this is sensationalist paper talk. I think it's likely that they would just change the way data is encrypted/stored rather than banning them outright.

That said this is a reason why young people need to vote. Governments walk all over us because we let them, as generally we're too lazy/don't care. Hence why the oldies always benefit and we don't!!!


Precisely. Pensioners have been largely protected by this government for the simple reason that they vote in large numbers. It's all very well to say that governments don't listen to young people but there's one very simple way of making sure they have to.
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post Jan 12 2015, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 12 2015, 08:00 PM) *
Precisely. Pensioners have been largely protected by this government for the simple reason that they vote in large numbers. It's all very well to say that governments don't listen to young people but there's one very simple way of making sure they have to.


Exactly, and it's not just my generation, it's probably the one above mine as well. I think it's easy to give the Lib Dems a hard tine over what happened, young people have to share the blame too. If young people voted in force and made a difference, then the major parties would actually look to give benefits. But the truth is collectively we shy away and don't think it concerns us, hence why we get shafted. It's a cycle really, and it will take someone much more intelligent and better with words than I am to get under 30s to stand up and be counted.
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post Jan 12 2015, 11:15 PM
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I think the funding and lobbying of the major political parties by corporations has much more of an influence than a 100% turnout of under 30s. Sadly.
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post Jan 12 2015, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Jan 12 2015, 11:15 PM) *
I think the funding and lobbying of the major political parties by corporations has much more of an influence than a 100% turnout of under 30s. Sadly.

Maybe so but there are many constituencies with a university which means that there are a lot of young voters. University students have the rare opportunity of being able to register in two places and choose where to vote. Therefore, they can choose to vote in the constituency where their vote has the best chance of making a difference. If students vote in large numbers, the parties will be under more pressure to attract their vote.
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post Jan 12 2015, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 13 2015, 12:29 AM) *
Maybe so but there are many constituencies with a university which means that there are a lot of young voters. University students have the rare opportunity of being able to register in two places and choose where to vote. Therefore, they can choose to vote in the constituency where their vote has the best chance of making a difference. If students vote in large numbers, the parties will be under more pressure to attract their vote.


A few of my mates who went to university over in England took advantage of that to vote for the national parties that don't field candidates in Northern Ireland. They voted for the Lib Dems.
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post Jan 12 2015, 11:47 PM
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Duplicate f***ing post >_>

Where is the promised DELETE button?


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I don't use these these things but THIS is unacceptable nono.gif

If he's ever found logging in to BJ please ban him. He just isn't welcome and probz illuminati anyways teresa.gif

His name is David Camera with all the horrible things he as done. Anyone remember that video

"This is the party of the motherfuckers"? laugh.gif
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post Jan 13 2015, 12:26 AM
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Soz to ruin everyone's hysterics, but even as a Labour supporter consumed with loathing for the man, there is absolutely no way this will happen.
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Jan 13 2015, 12:26 AM) *
Soz to ruin everyone's hysterics, but even as a Labour supporter consumed with loathing for the man, there is absolutely no way this will happen.


Yes it seems unlikely as long as it stays popular enough there will be too many angry customers losing their ability to use the apps. And Cameron's full assholity will this be REVEALED.
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post Jan 13 2015, 11:21 AM
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I don't use Whatsapp as everyone else I message has an iPhone.

BUT I NEED iMessage!
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