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ionderella
post Mar 13 2015, 01:08 PM
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HOLA and welcome to the SECOND EDITION of SUPER EUROVISION. It's been three years since there was one of those. We are as rare and fab as those Scandi noir crime dramas! *.* So let's do this y'all!

As always, there will be 10 quarterfinals (each for one of the last 10 years) where we decide the qualifiers which then battle it out in one of the two Semifinals for a chance to participate in the Grand Final. But of course the biggest prize is the victory at the very end! THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL. DINAH NAH HAS TO FALL.

Let us remind ourselves of the first edition's Top 10:

1 242 Ukraine 2008 • Ani Lorak • Shady Lady
2 235 Germany 2010 • Lena • Satellite
3 208 Iceland 2009 • Yohanna • Is It True?
4 187 Ukraine 2004 • Ruslana • Wild Dances
5 186 Sweden 2011 • Eric Saade • Popular
6 169 Iceland 2008 • Euroband • This Is My Life
7 169 Sweden 2008 • Charlotte Perrelli • Hero
8 161 Hungary 2011 • Kati Wolf • What About My Dreams
9 151 Turkey 2003 • Sertab Erener • Everyway That I Can
10 146 Azerbaijan 2010 • Safura • Drip Drop

Evidently Ruslana and Sertab are ineligible to participate this year so at least two Top 10 places are up for grabs! New arrivals from 2012, 2013 and 2014 and big favourites from their respective years, Emmelie, Loreen, Margaret Berger, Conchita, The Common Linnets among others, join the race in the hope of becoming new Shady Lady.

So let us pretend Loreen doesn't already have it in the bag and go ahead with this pointless 12-week long exercise!

NU KÖR VI!

UPDATE:

The format is now under discussion. The 2005 thread will come back once we settle on how we want to do this bitch~
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:15 PM
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Oh hun, do we really have to do mostly the same years again under the same format? It's going to get pretty much the same results for each year really.
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Mar 13 2015, 04:15 PM) *
Oh hun, do we really have to do mostly the same years again under the same format? It's going to get pretty much the same results for each year really.

It's been 3 years though and forum members changed etc. I'm all up for trying out a new format but more SUGGESTIONS and less CRITICISING plz
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:19 PM
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I'm all for doing another one of these but I think we could do with a change of format and get in the contests going back to 1998. Maybe do it by countries' entries going back to 1998, with two qualifiers for each country?
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:23 PM
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There IS one thing I found quite interesting.

39; 37; 42; 43; 42; 39; 43; 42; 39; 37

Those are participation numbers which almost MIRROR each other apart from the 42; 39 part in the middle. So if people are not satisfied with the old format we can do like DUELS as the initial elimination stage and then go from there.
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Mar 13 2015, 04:19 PM) *
I'm all for doing another one of these but I think we could do with a change of format and get in the contests going back to 1998. Maybe do it by countries' entries going back to 1998, with two qualifiers for each country?

I thought about it but with some countries participating for only a few years it might be tricky. It will take time and thought to group countries and count all the qualification ratios and stuff which I don't really have right now. So if people like the idea and someone volunteers for the job, I'm up for that.
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:29 PM
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It's fine, just give the ones with less than 10 entries one qualification berth.

Why would you need to group countries?
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:33 PM
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I'd probably be voting massively differently to whatever I voted in 2012. Tastes change as well as members, you know.

Although I was looking through some of the late 90s contests recently and while I know I've listened to all the entries from there due to a Moopy thing, there were very few I could recall just by name so I'd be up for including more years. Particularly as I'm sure some of us could use an education on retro entries that goes beyond JAVINE.
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Mar 13 2015, 02:33 PM) *
Particularly as I'm sure some of us could use an education on retro entries that goes beyond JAVINE.

QUITE!
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Mar 13 2015, 04:29 PM) *
It's fine, just give the ones with less than 10 entries one qualification berth.

Why would you need to group countries?

If there are separate rounds for countries (run at the same time I guess~ A San Marino week. What a BLAST that could be!) that participated only a few times then no grouping will be required. I just thought about another way to do this which now seems more complicated and unnecessary.
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:35 PM
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98 is quite an ambitious starting point given the amount of people who actually voted in/for anything preceding 2007 last time.

But anyway, once the format is finalised this should serve as a nice support act for the event that me and Adam will be starting next week biggrin.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:37 PM
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I'm ALL for the 90's inclusion but realistically only a small number of people will vote in those. If we want to go retro then we'll need to abolish the years system, get the entire list of entries and randomise it completely into several pots with new and old entries side by side.
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:40 PM
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My point for countries' entries is that you'd have, say, UK week, and people vote on the entries for that country, so UK 1998-2014. That way participation stays up and people (hopefully) listen to the entries they don't know in order to vote.
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post Mar 13 2015, 03:09 PM
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I hope we decide on the format because I'd like this to get started over the weekend ideally.

PEOPLE TELL US WHAT YOU THINK. This is a democracy so make a use of that while you can.

And I'm looking for a co-host so people with amazingly structured and classy hosting skills (like Ryan) or people who have no social life (like LexC) feel free to volunteer! biggrin.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 03:10 PM
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I've always loved the idea of taking each country (you'd probably have to do a few a week of course) and looking back at their entries (up to a point like 1998 of course or 2000 would probably be a logical starting point) and therefore coming up with an overall ranking for the entries of each country (due to the points people give). And then the top 2 or whatever, like Tirren suggests, could go forward to an overall thing.

Reading back, I think this is exactly what you are suggesting Tirren and I think that'd be really good purely so Estonia get the appreciation they deserve for having such a good history of entries.

And of course I'm happy to help out wherever!
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post Mar 13 2015, 03:34 PM
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Perhaps we could go back as far as the last 20 contests? (I make that 1995?) Some of the late 90's entries are CLASSICS and deserve recognition.
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