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5 Silas Frřkner
post Mar 25 2015, 10:02 PM
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Hello all!

So we've had a chat and have decided to make the expanded final a permanent thing for contests with more than 60 entrants. So we have decided to change the format rules of BJSC to the following:

Under 40 entrants: One Big Final \\ 18 Point System
40 - 59 entrants: Semi-Finals with 15 qualifiers and up to 2 AQ's. \\ Eurovision Voting System
60+ entrants: Semi-Finals with 19 qualifiers and 2 AQ's OR 20 qualifiers and 0/1 AQ's. \\ Eurovision Voting System - Semi's, 18 Point System - Final

That would make our finals 40/41 songs and ensure that more than half the participants qualify from the semi's.

Let us know what you think! We think this is the best way forwards and it only adds 5 songs to the amount you already listen to in a month (i.e. the 5 extra qualifiers from the other semi)

Much love,

The BJSC Mod Crew.
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post Mar 25 2015, 10:04 PM
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I am so excited for this but also sad because my poor last two entries heart.gif Definitely a fantastic move though cheer.gif
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post Mar 25 2015, 10:04 PM
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I demand my last song to technically be a Q then~
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post Mar 25 2015, 10:05 PM
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Given most contests now are likely to have 60+ entrants i am not sure how i feel about the change in voting... Mainly for the statistics' sake.
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post Mar 25 2015, 10:09 PM
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We already have a random patch of 18point contests from the late 20's/early 30's so the stats are already skewed/take that into account.
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Gonna have some big big point totals if we go to 18 Point System and with 60+ entrants! Could potentially get our first 300+ point song in the near future! I'm up for the proposed change I think.
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post Mar 25 2015, 10:13 PM
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Looks like the one big final voting system is going to be pretty much permanent now then, as unless we have a mass extinction event in the near future it's very unlikely we're going to have another sub-60 contest!

Nonetheless, any measure to ensure at least half of entrants will make the final is a good move so I support this ~ Will be nice to have more than 10 voting spaces too as I rarely think that's enough, though that's largely down to me being extremely easily pleased!
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post Mar 25 2015, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(Conderella @ Mar 25 2015, 10:04 PM) *
I demand my last song to technically be a Q then~


I'm with you Pav.

Pumped for the return of the 18-point system honestly, that's going to be exciting, along with more people being happy with the qualifiers. And maybe I won't fail so often anymore. YAY.
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post Mar 25 2015, 11:20 PM
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Great changes, it's always a lesser experience when you DNQ so it's great that less people will DNQ now. Only thing I would personally change would be to just make it 20 qualifiers no matter whether there are 2 AQs or not. First reason is that people who finish 20th in a 0-1 AQ contest and therefore DNQ would feel extremely disappointed I'd imagine (see Joseph being unhappy at being 15th in a contest I hosted where I chose to have only 14 qualifiers laugh.gif). But secondly and more importantly it'd just be easier to just make it a round 20 every single time, it just feels unnecessary to have a different rule depending on an extra AQ or not and stripping a couple of countries of qualification on occasions for no real reason.

But aside from that, loving the bigger finals! wub.gif
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post Mar 26 2015, 12:44 AM
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I'm not too sure about the 18 point systen tbh, given the fact that 60+ seems to be becoming the norm right now

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post Mar 26 2015, 06:36 AM
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Those changes sound fair to me! I definitely support this.
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post Mar 26 2015, 10:42 AM
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Why do we have an extra AQ?
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post Mar 26 2015, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(Vülker @ Mar 26 2015, 10:42 AM) *
Why do we have an extra AQ?


Presumably to allow the winner to AQ if they don't want to host.

Anyway totally on board with this idea, although it will mean a LOT of songs to listen through, especially for those of us who work full time. Is tehre any chance that the voting periods could be lengthened to 10 days or so?
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post Mar 26 2015, 11:45 AM
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I always listen to all of the entries but it has become increasingly hard to find the time to do so in what is often a 5 and a half or 6 day window. Mainly because I only have time to do so with the aid of MP3 packs, which often don't come until a few days into the voting period. Could a full week minimum for semi-final voting be made the norm perhaps, seeing as the contests have become so massive now? Final voting could then be 5/6 days perhaps as there are nowhere near as many new songs to listen to.
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post Mar 26 2015, 11:47 AM
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There are 2 AQs if the winner doesn't want to go through the semis and there is an even number of participants. In that case second place AQs too. Weve been doin it for years to keep semi numbers equal rather than one being larger than the other.
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post Mar 26 2015, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(Tom Kaymakoski @ Mar 26 2015, 11:39 AM) *
Presumably to allow the winner to AQ if they don't want to host.


If that's the case then yes, that makes sense, however Desbuanda AQ'd this past edition after coming second to allow an even number of entries in the semifinals?
With this I don't agree with personally. Surely we could cope with our OCD and allow an odd number of entries in the semifinals as that hardly changes anything? And that way we could always have 20 qualifiers from each semifinal without worrying about the number of AQs in the Final.
We're talking about 2 countries missing out on qualification because some other country is Auto-Qualified after coming second the contest before just to make the semifinals even in participating numbers? That makes zero sense to me.
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post Mar 26 2015, 12:03 PM
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Can't we just always have 20 Qs per semi and then have either 1 or 2 AQs depending on how many entries there are, making finals of 41 or 42? This is how it has been for ages except replace 20 with 15 and 41/42 with 31/32 so not sure why it seems to have changed.
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post Mar 26 2015, 12:42 PM
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Yeh, 20 qualifiers all the time pleasee because I would be very annoyed if I came 20th one month and DNQ but the next month someone Q.

I support bigger finals though as, currently, it's been waaay too unpredictable due to the amount of participants. The fact that Jayrusalem scraped through into the final yet managed to come Top 10 is worrying and I expect Skall would have probably come Top 20 going by the comments I have seen.
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post Mar 26 2015, 12:54 PM
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I agree, the 'wrong semi effect' last month was incredibly alarming.
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post Mar 26 2015, 04:33 PM
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I like it, but I guess we'll just have to test it out to make sure it really does work out smile.gif
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