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post Apr 3 2015, 05:12 PM
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Who out of the current Labour & Conservative MP's do you think will do a better job than the current candidates, Ed Milliband & David Cameron. Who would have better poll ratings by this stage if they were leader.



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post Apr 3 2015, 08:16 PM
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Labour - Liz Kendall
Tories - don't care they're all selfish bast*rds!!
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The minority coalition governments could mean demands for a change of leader!!
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post Apr 3 2015, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(steve201 @ Apr 3 2015, 09:16 PM) *
The minority coalition governments could mean demands for a change of leader!!

The Lib Dems didn't insist on a change of leader before talking to Labour last time (although it was clear that another leader such as Alan Johnson would probably have helped) and I think it will be the same this time. Similarly, I would not expect Labour to insist that Clegg goes (assuming he keeps his seat) as a condition of talking to the Lib Dems. The fact that Clegg attacked Cameron more than Miliband last night could be seen as a way of trying to improve Lib Dem / Labour relations.
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post Apr 3 2015, 09:08 PM
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Labour - Andy Burnham
Conservatives - Jacob Rees-Mogg.
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post Apr 3 2015, 09:41 PM
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The kindest thing I can say about Liz Kendall is that she isn't Rachel Reeves.

In terms of presentation, give me Andy Burnham now and Stella Creasy or Lisa Nandy in five years.
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post Apr 3 2015, 10:01 PM
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Labour - Andy Burnham
Conservatives - Jacob Rees-Mogg.

I assume your choice of Jack Mogg is an attempt to ensure the Tories never get anywhere near power.

For the Lib Dems, Tim Farron is the obvious choice.

Andy Burnham's biggest asset could be his response to being heckled at a Hillsborough memorial service. There was nothing particularly wrong with what he said on that occasion, but the mood of the crowd clearly had a big affect on him. That led to the enquiry which finally uncovered the truth. As a result, Burnham can claim credentials as a genuine human being.
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post Apr 3 2015, 10:24 PM
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Labour - Yvette Cooper
Tories - Theresa May

Another woman Prime Minister please.
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post Apr 7 2015, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Apr 3 2015, 11:01 PM) *
For the Lib Dems, Tim Farron is the obvious choice.


Only choice I would say. He's the only one who has consistently stuck by what the party stands for during this debacle of a coalition. Even Charles Kennedy and Vince Cable have come out of it badly.

Labour - Chuka Umunna
Tory - William Hague (come back, all is forgiven - well, maybe, not all)


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post Apr 7 2015, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(Soy Adrián @ Apr 3 2015, 10:41 PM) *
The kindest thing I can say about Liz Kendall is that she isn't Rachel Reeves.

In terms of presentation, give me Andy Burnham now and Stella Creasy or Lisa Nandy in five years.

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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Apr 3 2015, 09:45 PM) *
The Lib Dems didn't insist on a change of leader before talking to Labour last time (although it was clear that another leader such as Alan Johnson would probably have helped) and I think it will be the same this time. Similarly, I would not expect Labour to insist that Clegg goes (assuming he keeps his seat) as a condition of talking to the Lib Dems. The fact that Clegg attacked Cameron more than Miliband last night could be seen as a way of trying to improve Lib Dem / Labour relations.

Eh? The Lib Dems very much *did* insist on a change of leader as a condition of any deal - that's agreed on by both Labour and Lib Dem sources. I think it's very likely they'd ask for Clegg to fall on his sword if the Lib Dems lose big, given he did the same to Brown after Labour did.
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post Apr 7 2015, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Apr 7 2015, 02:46 PM) *
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Yes?
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post Apr 7 2015, 03:45 PM
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The answer is clearly Stella in four months mad.gif

(nd dont diss mi kendall or i will shank u xoxo)
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post Apr 7 2015, 04:06 PM
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Stella Creasy really would be the death of the Labour party. She would alienate anyone who wasn't one of the more hardcore-Guardianish supporters. There's just no market for any party which makes feminism its main raison d'etre over economic issues.

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post Apr 7 2015, 04:22 PM
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I couldn't see Stella Creasy making feminism the focus of her leadership at all, especially given her big thing over the last five years has been her campaign against payday lenders' rip-off interest rates - one of the big economic issues for the least well-off, up there with food banks and disability benefit changes.
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post Apr 7 2015, 04:55 PM
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Stella is by far the best and least mechanical person that the right of the party has, mainly because she's not really to the right at all. Don't think she's ready yet but I can imagine myself voting for her in the future.
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post Apr 7 2015, 08:32 PM
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She's not in the shadow cabinet even is she? Just a minister!
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