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TheGrinch
post Apr 28 2015, 11:44 PM
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I would actually much rather they got a top 10 album selling 30,000 rather than a top 20 album selling double tbh kink.gif
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post Apr 28 2015, 11:49 PM
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Doesn't really matter as neither will ever happen again, but I'd rather they got a 60k selling album. Chart positions for albums never mattered to me as far as The Sats are concerned.
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post Apr 29 2015, 12:17 AM
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i'd rather they do a mission to the moon for 75,000 (all donated)
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post Apr 29 2015, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(┌ ╫ ┘ @ Apr 29 2015, 01:17 AM) *
i'd rather they do a mission to the moon for 75,000 (all donated)


I'd rather you do a mission to the moon and not return.
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post Apr 29 2015, 01:16 AM
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Hard to say. I guess it depends on how cheap the album is.

I mean for just +30k more, I'd rather they add another top 10 album to their list, especially if the album is a cheap knock-off.

If it was to be their best album yet, I guess 60k would be nice...just for the sake of such a good album at least outselling 'LFTW' and the Greatest Hits.






I don't know, tbh.
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post Apr 29 2015, 10:55 AM
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I'd rather sales, as that's what radios/record companies etc actually look at when investing in artists' music.
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post Apr 29 2015, 10:59 AM
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I'd prefer the top 10 album tbh, they'd make less out of it of course but with a pop act like The Saturdays, I think it's the chart peak that matters most - a top 10 album would look much better on their record.
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post Apr 29 2015, 11:35 AM
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It depends where in the top 10/20. If it was a case of a #10 album selling 30,000 or a #11 album selling 60,000 I think everyone would go for the #11 album. However I think for The Saturdays, chart positions are the important thing. As they have 5 top 10 albums. Which sounds great, if we ignore what they have sold. So a 6th top 10 album would sound better than a 6th top 20/7th top 25 album as a promotional thing.
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post May 2 2015, 02:00 AM
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Sales over chart position any day.
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post May 2 2015, 04:15 AM
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But is #20-60k really that much better than #10-30k? unsure.gif

Of course if you offered me #22 with 150k, I'll take it over #4 and 50k, but a 30k difference (especially in that case where both numbers are under the 70k bar) just isn't enough to really put it above a good top 10 position, in my opinion.
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post May 2 2015, 02:13 PM
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In my opinion, fans who follow the charts closely always put more emphasis on chart position but in the grand scheme of things I think sales are so much more important. How often do they use the whole "5 Top 10 Albums" thing anyway? It's not like they run ads or do X-Factor performances. I'd rather 60,000 people have their album over 30,000 because that means twice as many people are fans of their music, twice as many people are sharing that music with friends, twice as much revenue from album sales, twice as many people will feel compelled to buy concert tickets, etc. Plus, is having a "Top 10" album really that much better than having a "certified album" from a marketing standpoint? Finally, if they could get a Silver album and keep momentum going then the following release would most likely peak much higher as they've acquired new fans.
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post May 2 2015, 02:37 PM
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Obviously album sales are pretty dire in general unless you are Sam Smith or Ed Sheeran, but would be interesting to see how the last few album attempts would have panned out in better sales climates.
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post May 2 2015, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE((Zach) @ May 2 2015, 02:13 PM) *
In my opinion, fans who follow the charts closely always put more emphasis on chart position but in the grand scheme of things I think sales are so much more important. How often do they use the whole "5 Top 10 Albums" thing anyway? It's not like they run ads or do X-Factor performances. I'd rather 60,000 people have their album over 30,000 because that means twice as many people are fans of their music, twice as many people are sharing that music with friends, twice as much revenue from album sales, twice as many people will feel compelled to buy concert tickets, etc. Plus, is having a "Top 10" album really that much better than having a "certified album" from a marketing standpoint? Finally, if they could get a Silver album and keep momentum going then the following release would most likely peak much higher as they've acquired new fans.


Ah, see, to me, it's the opposite. I think fans put more emphasis on the sales because they actually know them, unlike the general public or people from radio stations. Truth is, chart positions are usually the only thing you're going to find right away on Wikipedia, not sales - which are far more a "stans" thing. I truly wonder if radio stations actually have access to such things as sales. I'm pretty sure people are just paid to evaluate how popular an act is at the moment and checking charts positions on Wikipedia is a really quick way to do it, whereas I feel like finding actual sales is harder. I mean, here on Buzzjack, it's easy, but otherwise, not really.

As I said, a certified album with an actual good certification would be great, yes, but saying "Buy the Silver certified album of The Saturdays!" is probably equivalent to "Buy the latest top 10 album of The Saturdays" because usually, unless you're a total flop like the girls, a top 10 album will actually get certified Silver. There really are just the girls (and a few other flops) to have a top 10 album sell so little. Usually, a #10 album will go on and sell 60k. So I wonder, in the public eye, if selling 60k is really a bigger marketing standpoint than "Buy this top 10 album".

Now, for "twive many people" argument, that's actually not untrue. However, I pretty much approached the whole debate in a different way. For me, this was more of " it's all settled and done" situation. Like it's a #20-60k album and not one more single sale due to someone sharing a video on their Facebook page (and same for the #10-30k). But your point still stand when it comes to twice as much people feeling compelled to buy tickers for their tours, gigs, etc. thinking.gif That's really the only compelling point to it (as for me, I mean). But I wonder if it's really important if the label isn't even paying for a tour...
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post May 4 2015, 02:14 PM
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I thought it would be like Sweet 7, missing top 10 and almost 20,000 only kink.gif
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