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post Sep 14 2015, 11:12 AM
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For as long as Jeremy Corbyn is Labour leader, we are bound to see a string of ridiculous headlines so I thought it would be worth dedicating a thread to them.

The first entry comes from today's Sun which leads with a story saying that Corbyn wants to abolish the Army. From a quick glance at the story (I didn't look inside as that would have meant handling the rag), Corbyn once said that it would be good to be able to abolish the Army. By that, I think he meant that it would be good to live in a world where we didn't need an army. That's very different from saying that he would abolish it tomorrow if he had the power.
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post Sep 14 2015, 12:21 PM
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Take your pick...

Unions Threaten Chaos After Corbyn Win (Telegraph)

Back Corbyn Or Quit Labour (Metro)

Sounds like he's going to lead a revolution in the streets as thats the only way to get democracy, and there is no room in the Labour Party for democracy and alternate viewpoints.

Still at least he ISN'T proposing baby-eating in the headlines. Yet.
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post Sep 14 2015, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Sep 14 2015, 12:12 PM) *
For as long as Jeremy Corbyn is Labour leader, we are bound to see a string of ridiculous headlines so I thought it would be worth dedicating a thread to them.

The first entry comes from today's Sun which leads with a story saying that Corbyn wants to abolish the Army. From a quick glance at the story (I didn't look inside as that would have meant handling the rag), Corbyn once said that it would be good to be able to abolish the Army. By that, I think he meant that it would be good to live in a world where we didn't need an army. That's very different from saying that he would abolish it tomorrow if he had the power.

He did also say that Britain doesn't need an army.
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post Sep 14 2015, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Sep 14 2015, 10:29 PM) *
He did also say that Britain doesn't need an army.


This is true, just watched the clip. Presumably he doesn't think that another Hitler wannabee could ever arise in the modern world and it's just wasted money.

The day the human race has no members of it who aren't selfish greedy and ruthless is the day genetic engineering that the nazis would have killed for (even more) is mandatory. Not everyone is nice. The human world isn't perfect and never has been and never will be.

He should know that, he's been voting against most of his own party for 30 years....
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post Sep 14 2015, 11:09 PM
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We may as well just get it out of the way - most of the headlines that will be coming up in this thread would have people utterly outraged at a Tory counterexample, no matter how much you tried to explain it away with technicalities and 'they probably meant this'. We've all got far better things to do with our lives than spend three years defending a doddery, irritable old fool who has spent thirty years trading in conspiracy theories and moon on a stick bollocks. Does he eat babies? No. He probably wouldn't say a fucking thing if he was sat next to someone who was though, so long as he thought they otherwise had the right politics.
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post Sep 14 2015, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Sep 14 2015, 10:29 PM) *
He did also say that Britain doesn't need an army.

Not quite true.
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post Sep 14 2015, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Sep 15 2015, 12:09 AM) *
We may as well just get it out of the way - most of the headlines that will be coming up in this thread would have people utterly outraged at a Tory counterexample, no matter how much you tried to explain it away with technicalities and 'they probably meant this'. We've all got far better things to do with our lives than spend three years defending a doddery, irritable old fool who has spent thirty years trading in conspiracy theories and moon on a stick bollocks. Does he eat babies? No. He probably wouldn't say a fucking thing if he was sat next to someone who was though, so long as he thought they otherwise had the right politics.

But apart from that, what do you think of him?
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Oh, I'm cautiously optimistic.
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post Sep 15 2015, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Soy Adrián @ Sep 15 2015, 12:13 AM) *
Not quite true.


True. He more or less (and I paraphrase) said I'm sure there must be a circumstance where I would call in the troops but I can't think of an example off the top of my head.

Not very imaginative then given there are examples on the news every day in the rest of the world.

How about foreign rebels shooting down a British airliner?

How about Russian planes buzzing more than the coast of Bournemouth? Let 'em do what they want, fly over anywhere?

How about a convoy of ISIS rebels being warmy welcomed on the beaches as they carry on with their stated intention to change the world to their own image (and which incidentally includes murdering gay people by throwing them off high rise buildings)?

There was 3 off the top of my head. Perhaps I should run for Labour leader, I'm clearly a bit smarter than the current one.
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post Sep 15 2015, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Sep 14 2015, 11:09 PM) *
We may as well just get it out of the way - most of the headlines that will be coming up in this thread would have people utterly outraged at a Tory counterexample, no matter how much you tried to explain it away with technicalities and 'they probably meant this'. We've all got far better things to do with our lives than spend three years defending a doddery, irritable old fool who has spent thirty years trading in conspiracy theories and moon on a stick bollocks. Does he eat babies? No. He probably wouldn't say a fucking thing if he was sat next to someone who was though, so long as he thought they otherwise had the right politics.

f***ing hell. You are absolutely unbearable right now.
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post Sep 15 2015, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(jark @ Sep 15 2015, 06:59 PM) *
f***ing hell. You are absolutely unbearable right now.

And you're absolutely idiotic right now for thinking this third-rate old tit is anything other than an insanely overpromoted fairytale. I'm disgusted because he's not only wrong on principle, he's wrong on the strategy for how he's going to make his principles succeed now he's been elected. I could have a grudging respect if he was putting his best foot forward. I feel insulted that he isn't. His SUPPORTERS should feel insulted that he isn't - this is the first chance they've actually had in power in ages. Instead they've got a man who's being UTTERLY SILENT in the face of all attacks and refusing to go on or talk to the media - hence, what are people going to hear? 'The Conservatives said xyz about Corbyn. Corbyn refused to comment'. You think that's a formula for success for anybody but the small band of already politically active people who've decided they love him?

His survival depends entirely on him realising this and changing how he deals with the media, the press, and his speeches before his supporters realise they haven't nominated an inspiring Owen Jones figure with a beard - they've elected a rambling geography teacher who is nothing other than the tremendously lucky cipher for their politics.
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post Sep 15 2015, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(jark @ Sep 15 2015, 06:59 PM) *
f***ing hell. You are absolutely unbearable right now.


Don't tell me you've fallen to the left!

While I normally disagree with Tirren, I think he's quite right on Corbyn - fairytale is very apt for his believers. There is no way he's going to be able to swing the marginal voters to Labour.
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I'm currently in love with Jeremy Christ.
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post Sep 16 2015, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Sep 14 2015, 10:29 PM) *
He did also say that Britain doesn't need an army.



He does have a point actually as we're an island so any attack has to come from the sea or air. We just need the navy and air force. tongue.gif
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post Sep 16 2015, 06:21 PM
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NEWS OF THE DAY: Agnostic Republican doesn't sing song thanking God for an unelected hierarchy.

Meanwhile the Tories have managed to sneak through destroying working tax credits. Well done to all involved. 🙈
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post Sep 16 2015, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(JamesP @ Sep 16 2015, 07:21 PM) *
NEWS OF THE DAY: Agnostic Republican doesn't sing song thanking God for an unelected hierarchy.

Meanwhile the Tories have managed to sneak through destroying working tax credits. Well done to all involved. ��

Well in particular, well done to the man who made the front pages about him rather than having the sense to realise that if you want the topic to be tax credits, you give your enemies as little ammunition as possible to make it about you.

(And before we get the 'HE WAS DAMNED EITHER WAY', the response if he did sing would've been the eminently reasonable 'uh, I'm standing to be the PM of this country, of course I'm going to sing its national anthem', which would've done a tremendous job of helping him frame that the papers are overplaying their hand in attacking him any way they can. As it goes, there'll be plenty of people out there who haven't made their minds up on Corbyn who think 'well...they do have a point'.)
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post Sep 16 2015, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(JamesP @ Sep 16 2015, 07:21 PM) *
NEWS OF THE DAY: Agnostic Republican doesn't sing song thanking God for an unelected hierarchy.


For someone who doesn't believe in God, to sing "God Save the Queen" is basically the same as saying "Don't Save the Queen" anyway, so there's no problem.
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post Sep 16 2015, 06:43 PM
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I mean also it really is the kind of obnoxious Year 10 logic behind the kinds of atheists that make a point of standing there in silence during the hymns if they have to go to church. You're at a ceremony bigger than you, just have a bit of respect and JOIN IN FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
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post Sep 16 2015, 07:42 PM
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Disagree entirely. If you don't believe in a system, you don't then SING ABOUT IT. Just yesterday, the tabloids were calling him a HYPOCRITE for accepting his honours from the Queen. Now they're calling him insulting and the biggest insult to Britain that's ever lived. It's entitirely laughable.
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post Sep 16 2015, 08:20 PM
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If we had a National anthem, there wouldn't have been the same problem. Unfortunately, we have the only anthem in a democracy that isn't about the country at all.
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