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post Sep 23 2015, 05:49 PM
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Welcome to the Ultimate Slasher Movie Franchise rate results, after many weeks of voting and 47 movies in the running, which icon will come out on top, will it be Jason, Freddy, Michael Myers, Chucky, Leatherface or Ghostface. Who will be the winner.

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Leatherface : The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre – The Beginning
Texas Chainsaw 3D

Halloween
Halloween II
Halloween III – Season Of The Witch
Halloween 4 – The Return Of Michael Myers
Halloween 5 – The Revenge Of Michael Myers
Halloween 6 – The Curse Of Michael Myers
Halloween H20
Halloween Ressurection
Halloween (2007)
Halloween 2

Friday The 13th
Friday The 13th Part 2
Friday The 13th Part 3
Friday The 13th – The Final Chapter
Friday The 13th Pt V – A New Beginning
Friday The 13th Pt VI – Jason Lives
Friday The 13th Pt VII – The New Blood
Friday The 13th Pt VIII – Jason Takes Manhatten
Jason Goes To Hell – The Final Friday
Jason X
Freddy Vs Jason
Friday The 13th (2009)


A Nightmare On Elm Street
A Nightmare On Elm Street 2 – Freddy’s Revenge
A Nightmare On Elm Street 3 – Dream Warriors
A Nightmare On Elm Street 4 – The Dream Master
A Nightmare On Elm Street 5 – Dream Child
Freddy’s Dead
Wes Craven’s New Nightmare
A Nightmare On Elm Street (2010)

Scream
Scream 2
Scream 3
Scream 4

Child’s Play
Child’s Play 2
Child’s Play 3
Bride Of Chucky
Seed Of Chucky
Curse Of Chucky


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Starting off the with bottom 5, we lose one terrible remake and a couple of lacklustre sequels, 2 Halloween's, 2 Texas Chainsaw Massacre sequels and the 2010 reboot of A Nightmare On Elm Street which nobody wanted, and doesn't have it's main draw and thankfully there were no follow ups.


47. Halloween 2 (2009)

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At #47 in bottom place is the first of the Halloween franchise movies. This was a sequel to the remake by Rob Zombie, while that was rehashing the original this was fully Rob Zombie's vision. This is the last of the 10 Halloween movies to date and can see why, this just didn't sit well with anyone, despite making back it's budget $15 million to make and grossed $39 million worldwide. Okay at least the director tried to do something different, but in all it was just way too weird and tries way too hard to be artsy with strange dream sequences involving Rob Zombie's wife and a white horse, and plus returning characters Laurie Strode and Dr Loomis becoming horrible and unlikeable people. The only thing I did like was Danielle Harris returning yet again, making this her 4th appearance but she dies in this. In all a total mess and didn't gain a single positive score, with 4 being the highest.


46. Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation

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At #46 we have another terrible sequel or quasi remake, "Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation". This was the 4th film in the franchise, after a failed attempt at a reboot with the 3rd part in 1990, this was made in 1994 but was shelved for three years in it's original title "The Return Of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre". It was given a release in 1997 after two of it's stars Renee Zellweger and Matthew McConaughy became famous. Matthew didn't want this to get a cinema release and tried to stop it, but still managed to get a limited release where it grossed a paltry $185,898, on a budget of $600,000. Not hard too see why the movie was a total mess and terrible through and through, both of them were awful in this and Leatherface was wearing a dress.


45. A Nightmare On Elm Street (2010)

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At #45 we have the first remake to drop "A Nightmare On Elm Street", which definitely stands as the worst out of all the Platinum Dunes horror remakes. First of look at the differences between this and the original. The 1984 was a passion project for Wes Craven and he tried to get it made for about 4 years after every studio slammed the door in his face. This one however directed by Samuel Bayer, whose never directed a movie before, only music videos and had to be pushed into it by Michael Bay and Platinum Dunes. That was the first problem there I could go on all day comparing how bad this is to the original, but that would take up about 40 posts. Everything about this was bad with no original ideas just copying classic scenes from the original and replacing them with terrible CGI. The new freddy Jackie Earle Haley did what he could, but just couldn't match up to Robert Englund, which nobody could ever do, and plus with a terrible script he didn't have a chance. Even the teens were just Twlight rejects and Rooney Mara who played Nancy even hated her performance and wanted to give up acting after this, but thankfully she didn't. Surprisingly this was a hit grossing $115 million worldwide, despite terrible reviews , thankfully due to strong fan reaction no more sequels were made to follow this mess.


44. Texas Chainsaw 3D

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At #44 we have the 2nd Leatherface movie to drop, leaving 5 left in the running. This is the most recent movie in the franchise, making this the 7th overall. Released in January 2013 in the dumping ground month for bad movies and this one skips over the 5 previous ones and is a straight up follow up to the first one and of course doesn't compare in anyway. This one introduces Leatherface's cousin, who would have been about 40 something, but in this she's in her 20's, by setting things in modern times. This was just flat and lifeless from the get go, we have a bunch of teens who have no character and are just there to be killed off, and apart from that there's not much to say apart from there's gonna be another sequel coming out next year. Please just let this franchise die out already.


43. Halloween 6: The Curse Of Michael Myers

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At #43 we have another Halloween movie to drop and this is the first of the original 8 movies to drop, part 6 The Curse Of Michael Myers. This was released in September 1995, 6 years after part 5 and was plagued with production troubles from the start. After the last one introduced the mysterious man in black, which turned out to be something the previous director just added for the sake of it. This explains that Michael Myers was part of a thorn cult and he and his niece Jamie Lloyd was taken by them at the end of the last movie. Danielle Harris didn't return to this instalment over a pay dispute and she didn't like the fact that her character was killed off so early in the film and so she was replaced by J.C. Brandy. This would also be Donald Pleasence's final appearance in the Halloween franchise as Dr Loomis, as he died shortly after the movie was completed, making this his 5th. There are 2 versions of this floating about, firstly there's the normal theatrical release, which almost abandon's the cult aspect of the movie, and appears not to make much sense and then there's the producer's cut which has 43 minutes of alternative footage and still hasn't been released properly, only floating about in bootleg forms on the internet. This is seen as the much better version of the movie and makes a lot more sense. This also marks one of the earliest appearances of actor Paul Rudd who is now a massive Hollywood star, playing Tommy Doyle. This made $15 million at the box office on a budget of $5 million, while it didn't flop, it wasn't the hit that was hoped and the series was seen as dead until 1998 when a new sequel was brought and reversed fortunes.
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I didn't even notice the script in the Nightmare remake! True that they basically milked out the fact that Kellan Lutz and Katie Cassidy were in the movie (and they were only in the movie for the first 30 minutes), and the erroneous amount of jumpscares. Kellan's character didn't even make a good first victim, probably the worst since the coach in Nightmare 2.

Johnny Depp in his first acting gig did waaaaaaay better than all the actors there combined.

I'll give the directors one thing: the way they killed Nancy's mom in the remake was kinda cool.
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In this selection another 2 lacklustre Halloween sequels drop, and Chucky loses half of it's franchise in one go, leaving 3 left in the running.


42. Halloween 5: The Revenge Of Michael Myers

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At #42 is "Halloween 5", released in 1989 and was the 5th instalment of the franchise, coming out only a year after part 4 which revived the franchise. This however was greenlight before a script was even developed and was therefore rushed into production, and it shows and it also didn't help that the slasher craze was dying down by this point in the decade. The reviews for this were terrible and became the lowest grossing movie out of the lot with just $11 million gross. After the twist ending of part 4, that was almost completely ignored in this one and a popular character from part 4 Rachel was killed off so early on in this one. This would also be the final time that Danielle Harris played Jamie Lloyd in this one, after she was replaced in the following sequel, but she did return for the remake in 2007.


41. Seed Of Chucky

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Just outside the top 40 at #41 we lose the first of the Chucky films, "Seed Of Chucky" , Released in 2004 and was the 5th instalment of the franchise, coming 6 years after "Bride Of Chucky". This continued the more comedy element of the series, which didn't go down too well with fans. But Tiffany did return in this one, and again voiced by the brilliant Jennifer Tilly who also plays herself in this movie and also introduces Glen, their son/daughter, making this his only appearance. Honestly I liked this one and found it quite funny and definitely not the worst in series and also not this also features Hannah Spearitt from S Club 7 in her 3rd movie role as one of the victims.


40. Halloween Resurrection

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At #40 is "Halloween Resurrection" which was the 8th movie in the franchise and final of the original series before it was re-booted in 2007. They really should have ended this series after H20 which did bring a decent close to the series with Jamie Lee Curtis facing down Michael Myers in one final battle and chopped his head, that was enough. But no because that made a lot of money, the film studio decided to milk it and in the most stupidest of ways, by firstly having that Michael Myers switched outfits with the ambulance driver and crushed his voice box, so he couldn't speak, and that was the guy who had his head chopped off, which doesn't make a lick of sense, seeing as though he could have just taken the mask off and why did he act and move like Michael Myers then. Even Jamie Lee Curtis was fed up by this point and said that she would only return if she could get killed off early on, and she did making this her 4th and final appearance in the franchise, marking an end of an era. So the plot to this is that we have Busta Rhymes setting up a reality TV web series in Michael Myer's house along with a bunch of disposable teens, including what has to be the dullest final girl ever, getting picked off one by one. Despite this making a decent profit and an open ending, there hasn't been a follow up to it, as of yet.


39. Curse Of Chucky

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At #39 is the most recent of the Chucky films "The Curse Of Chucky", this marks the 6th instalment of the franchise and first to be released straight to DVD, but does mark a return to the straightforward horror angle of the first 3 movies. While originally this was gonna be a reboot to be written and directed by Manchini who also did all the other Chucky movies, but due to strong fan reaction, instead it was thought better to just return to the horror elements that made the series in the first place. Brad Douriff again voices the infamous Chucky doll, while his real life daughter Fiona Douriff also appears in the movie as the main character whose mother has a connection to Chucky himself. This received a positive reception amongst fans and critics and has breathed new life into the series. Also I do like movie personally it has that throwback to the good old fashioned haunted house movies from the Hammer era and also liked that Andy Barclay returned for a cameo as does Jennifer Tilly.


38. Child's Play 3

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At #38 we have "Child's Play 3" released in 1991, only one year after the 2nd movie and this was surrounded by controversy when it was released in the UK, when it was suggested that it might have inspired the true life murder of a young boy, but was eventually rejected by officers investigating the case. This wasn't as well received as the other 2 and became the lowest grossing out of the 3 with just $15 million and this was intended to be the end. Until a few years later when the slasher craze was big again thanks to Scream and again interest was revived again in the series. This would however be the last of the Andy Barclay saga, as a new story was focused on in later films.
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In this bunch we lose 2 more Freddy sequels, one awful and one pretty good with a unique spin on it, along with another Leatherface movie to bow out, and for the first time some Jason movies drop part 9 and 10 which are definitely the worst ones.


37. Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare

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At #37 is the first Freddy film (that's not a remake) to drop out, and it's the last of the original series before being re-tooled by original director Wes Craven, a few years later. This was intended to be the last in the long running series, hence the title, but it became a financial success leading to a few more. This is definitely the worst of the bunch, almost abandoning the horror elements and just drowning in the comedy, like Freddy riding on a broomstick which was a total jump the shark moment and it was filmed with all the wrong intentions, like they wanted Freddy to be pop culture icon and making it appeal to all ages and throwing in so many celebrity cameos, but that simply doesn't work and just took away what made it so special in the first place. It does have some interesting elements though like Freddy turning the entire town into one giant nightmare and him having a daughter, but they're not used to full advantage and his daughter was basically unused for the first half of the film. Glad this wasn't the last Freddy film and things were put right a few years later. Also this was intended as the last one because of the lacklustre response to part 5, as originally they were gonna go with another straight up sequel titled "A Nightmare On Elm Street - Dream Lover", which had Freddy in a weakened state and teens going into their dreams just to beat him up, but he accidently kills one and starts to become stronger and starts killing again.


36. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2

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At #36 is "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2", the first sequel to the 1974 classic, released 12 years after the original and again directed by Tobe Hopper. This took a totally different turn to the grimy surreal feel the first one had, and instead injected some dark comedy to it, which was hated at the time and didn't make much impact at the box office with a gross of just $8 million, compared to the $30 million gross the first one had. Although there are some positive notes to this, like the original family returning and Dennis Hopper getting into a chainsaw fight with Leatherface was quite fun, but on the whole it was just lacking.


35. Jason X

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At #35 we have the first Jason movie to drop "Jason X" which was the 10th part in the long running series and also marks Kane Hodder's final appearance as Jason in the franchise as he's played him in parts 7,8 and 9. This was first one released in 9 years while originally "Freddy Vs Jason" was supposed to be released but that was still in development hell, but would come out a year later. This was clearly the studio running out of ideas for him and thought sending him into outer space was the best solution. Okay this isn't a great film whatsoever, but it was still silly fun with a lot of cool kills and a robot girl fighting Jason was hilarious, but the new Jason when he's half metal was just stupid and this became the lowest grossing film in the franchise with just a $12 million gross in the USA.


34. Jason Goes To Hell: The Final Friday

Avg.5.125

At #34 we have a double whammy, another Jason film drops "Jason Goes To Hell" which was the 9th part in the franchise and the first to be distributed by New Line Cinema after buying the rights from Paramount who did the first 8 films. This was also the first and only Jason film of the 90's and was intended to be the last, despite heavily hinting at the end there would be a battle with Freddy in the next one, but that wouldn't happen for another 10 years. This again takes the series into another direction like having Jason body hopping, which was just stupid and plus he's hardly ever in it, then there's another element of him having to kill off his remaining family members, which was never the point in any of the other films and just seemed to be copying of other horror films at the time. This along with part 10 are definitely the weakest of the franchise and it's weak box office showing would put the series on hold for a long time.


33. Wes Craven's New Nightmare

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At #33 we have "Wes Craven's New Nightmare" which was released in 1994 and written and directed by Wes Craven who did the original nightmare back in 1984. Despite being the 7th part in the series this doesn't follow on from the others, instead focuses a new spin on things, like having the original cast and even Robert Englund himself all experiencing Freddy as a real entity and being real. This also brings back the original heroine Nancy played by Heather Langenkamp for the 3rd time in the series, although she's playing herself and also John Saxon who played her father in the first one, again playing himself. Despite the unique approach this didn't really find an audience as it became the lowest grossing movie of the franchise, which was a shame but also kind of expected, as there isn't much of Freddy himself throughout and doesn't have a high body count. But I think this really only appeals to hardcore Freddy fans and does offer something new and original to the series and isn't bogged down by over the top humour. I think that this deserves higher that a #33 placing here, maybe this just isn't for everyone tastes.
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In this bunch we lose the ultimate crossover battle Freddy Vs Jason, which is perhaps the biggest shock out the bunch, along with another Freddy and Jason movie each and Leatherface also loses another leaving just 3 left in the series and Halloween have now lost half of it's franchise as another of it's sequel which is not really a sequel bows out.


32. A Nightmare On Elm Street 5: The Dream Child

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At #32 is "A Nightmare On Elm Street 5: The Dream Child" which was the last of the Freddy movies from the 80's and went for a more darker and gothic tone than in some of the previous movies. This was rushed into production following the huge success of part 4 and coming out only a year later. Meaning that this was rushed and while the idea of Freddy haunting the drams of an unborn baby is different, it just wasn't fully explained enough like why was the child 8 years old in Alice's dream and also this movie does bring up a lot of serious issues such as bulimia, abortion, teen motherhood and drinking and driving, but they were all just thrown in without any real resolve and are never really tackled. While I did like the dark blue tone, on the whole this was kinda flat and definitely ranks as one of the weakest in the series. The dream sequences had potential, but failed to make an impact and Freddy just goes full on jokey mode. But still played excellently by Robert Englund of course, he can only do what's written on paper and in this case, it was a rather thin concept. Lisa Wilcox returning as Alice was another highlight, but none of the other characters weren't given any depth, just run of the mill cardboard cutouts and their deaths just lacked that edge. The response to this was less than positive as reviews were poor and while it was still quite successful at the box office with $22 million, it was lower than the previous 4 and ultimately led to Freddy being killed off for good in the next sequel.


31. Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III

Avg.5.4

At #31 is "Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III" which is the 3rd part of the franchise and was the first attempted reboot of the series, meaning that this didn't follow on from parts 1 and 2, despite still featuring Leatherface, this features a new killer family. The rights to this were brought by New Line Cinema after having massive success with the Freddy sequels with the intention of turning it into another money making franchise. Despite being one of the better sequels in the series, the response to this wasn't very positive as it was hampered with bad reviews and a poor box office showing with just $5 million gross. All plans for further sequels were cancelled due to this and the series was rebooted 2 more times after this. This also features Viggo Mortensen in one of his earliest roles, before he became an household name with the Lord Of The Rings trilogy and he does a very decent performance here, along with horror staple Ken Foree from Dawn Of The Dead and the female lead Kate Hodge was also another decent addition to this movie. In my view while this movie is far from perfect, but it is very underrated and deserves more credit and it does go back to basics with the horror element and isn't hampered down with ridiculous humour.


30. Freddy Vs Jason

Avg.5.791

At #30 is "Freddy Vs Jason" (WTF!), this should be much higher, but it was hampered down by 4 0's. This was something nobody thought would ever happen, due to it being in development hell since the late 80's and film studios not agreeing to rights and terms, along with several directors attached to it and then dropping it. But then finally in 2003 it happened with Ronny Yu at the helm, and becoming the 11th Jason film and 8th Freddy film in their franchises. This also marks both their last official entry's before being remade years later. Making this Robert Englund's final movie as Freddy. There was of course casting controversies as Kane Hodder wasn't cast as Jason, despite playing him in 4 sequels and loved by many fans, instead New Line thought a fresh start would be better and stuntman Ken Kerzinger was cast. At the time I loved it and thought it was the perfect movie, but as the years went on I saw quite differently. Okay I still love it, but there are some flaws, like the teen cast weren't very well acted and what the hell was Kelly Rowland doing in it, great singer, but awful actress, but she did have a cool death scene. Plus the concept of Jason being afraid of water was stupid, especially seeing as he's walked out of the water and drowned and killed people in the water in several previous sequels. The movie became a box office smash grossing $36 million in it's opening weekend and making $114 million worldwide, making this the most successful from both franchises.


29. Friday The 13th Pt VI: Jason Lives

Avg.5.812

At #29 is another one that deserves to be higher "Friday The 13th Pt 6 - Jason Lives", which is personally one of my fave sequels out of the bunch and after the poor response to Part 5, Jason was back with a bang, as originally Tommy Jarvis from 4 and 5 was gonna be the killer, but after part 5 had a different killer, this wasn't the way to go and instead made the wise move in bringing Jason back, although he is now more undead than human, and stronger which works in this. It also the last of the Tommy Jarvis character trilogy, bringing his storyline to close as he battles Jason one last time. This time he is played by Thom Matthews, as previous actor John Shepherd became a Christian. This also put the series back on track as fans and critics responces were very positive.


28. Halloween III: Season Of The Witch

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At #28 is "Halloween III - Season Of The Witch" which despite being the 3rd in the franchise doesn't follow on from any of the others, due to it not featuring Michael Myers or any of the other cast and instead goes down a Sci-Fi direction where a mad doctor makes Halloween masks that kills children. The reasoning for this was that Part II was gonna be the end of the Michael Myers story and keep the title "Halloween" but have a different storyline for each movie. But the response to this wasn't very good, in fact it was hated upon release because everybody wanted Michael Myers back. So all plans were cancelled after this and he was brought back in part 4. Now honestly I didn't think that this movie was bad, in fact I thought It was pretty good, it was a creepy tone to it and a unique storyline, this deserved so much better, but glad they brought back Michael Myers though as he is the face of the series.




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In this selection we lose 2 more Jason sequels, and 2 remakes fall out leaving only one left and the Leatherface prequel also drops, leaving only 2 left in the franchise.


27. Friday The 13th Part V: A New Beginning

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At #27 is "Friday The 13th Part 5", the fifth instalment in the Jason franchise and takes a slightly different turn to the previous 4, by not having Jason as the killer, instead making an attempt at a murder mystery, which totally fails because in the end it was revealed to the most random person. This also has Tommy Jarvis character returning, but this time played by John Shepherd, Corey Feldman wasn't available due to filming "The Goonies" at the time, but does make a cameo appearance at the beginning in a dream sequence. This is definitely where the series started to go downhill in quality, in terms of acting and well just about everything else, instead opting for more blood and nudity. But this is still a fun basic slasher movie even though it's hated by most fans. When released in 1985 the movie was still a success at the box office with a $21 million gross on a $2.2 million budget, but still quite a bit less than the previous 2 sequels which both grossed over $34 million.


26. Halloween (2007)

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At #26 is the "Halloween" remake, released in 2007 and directed by Rob Zombie. This also marks overall the 9th instalment in the Halloween series. While it is an interesting concept and Rob Zombie does attempt to do something new, like exploring Michael Myer's childhood, but that just takes away the mystery element that made him so creepy in the first place and making them trashy and just another psycho child from a bad home, with a mother for stripper, simply just doesn't work and then the second half which is basically a rehash of the original which introduces the new Laurie Strode, but the new teens dialogue is just unrealistic with just swearing and talking about sex, just doesn't add anything good to this. The one thing I hate about remakes is when they attempt to explore the backstory of it's serial killers. Despite bad reviews the movie was a success with a $80 million gross at the box office making this the highest grossing of the franchise.


25. Friday The 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan

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At #25 is "Friday The 13th part 8 - Jason Takes Manhattan", the 8th movie in the franchise and was originally intended as the last as the contract with Paramount had come to an end, later ending up being sold to New Line Cinema. This was promised that Jason would be stalking the streets of Manhattan, but that was slightly false advertising as that only happens in the last 20 minutes of the movie, for the most part it takes place on a cruise ship where he stalks a bunch of teens who are traveling to New York for graduation. This is another weak entry in the series as you can see it's totally run out of steam, the deaths are pretty boring and features Jason teleporting for some reason, it was just stupid. So on the whole a pretty lacklustre effort and became the 2nd lowest grossing of the series with just $14 million and was the last Jason movie of the 80's.


24. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning

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At #24 is "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning", the 6th instalment in the Leatherface franchise, and is a prequel to the 2003 remake and again another not needed orgin story, while this is actually better than the Freddy and Michael Myers remakes. Okay the 2003 remake was really decent and this follow up isn't as good, but an okay effort and I did like the characters better in this one, namely the main cast such as Jordana Brewster from The Fast And The Furious movies, turns in a really good performance and really strong and the brothers storyline does add a bit more depth to the story and they were all likeable.


23. Friday The 13th (2009)

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At #23 is another remake "Friday The 13th", this was released in 2009 and overall the 12th instalment of the Friday The 13th series. While okay this is again another decent remake and doesn't stray too far away from the winning formula, this just kinda leaves you feeling very flat and unexcited, there is no attempt at any tension and the kills are interesting, they just lack that something special. The cast weren't very interesting, just bland fashion model lookalikes and on the whole just feels rather empty. When released despite a really strong opening weekend of $40 million, the bad word of mouth and terrible reviews sunk it in the following weeks and ended up with just a $64 million gross, while it's not a flop, the other planned sequels were cancelled making this the final instalment to date.
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In this selection, there are just 2 movies here as we are now drawing closer and closer to the top 20. We finally lose one of the Scream movies, leaving 3 left in the top 20 and another Jason sequel bows out, with 4 left to come.


22. Friday The 13th Part VII: The New Blood

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At #22 is "Friday The 13th Pt 7: The New Blood", which was the 7th instalment in the Jason franchise and marks the debut of Kane Hodder playing Jason for the first of 4 times. This was originally meant to be "Freddy Vs Jason", but plans fell through as Paramount who owned the rights to this franchise and New Line Cinema couldn't come to an agreement. So then it was re-tooled by having a character that could be a match for Jason, namely Tina a girl who could move things with her mind. Several of the death scenes had to be trimmed down in order for it to be given an R rating, and those scenes weren't available until the DVD box set release. This is a decent entry in the series with idea of a final girl having telekinetic powers was quite interesting and Lar Park Lincolin was fantastic in the role. Other than that this is basically a by the numbers entry in the series.




21. Scream 3

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At #21 is the first of the Scream movies to drop, part 3 which is definitely the weakest out of the lot. This also marks the first time Kevin Williamson not writing it and it shows, as the dialogue isn't as witty, or the characters don't seem the same, and also the new ones aren't as memorable. The violence was also toned down a lot due to the tragic Columbine High School Massacre, with many parties looking at violent movies as part of the blame. Other problems occurred during filming, as Neve Campbell wasn't gonna return, as she was filming another movie at the time, but eventually she did and was only available for 3 weeks, which again shows as she is absent for a large chunk of the film. While this is a decent movie, it just doesn't have the magic the first 2 had and the killer reveal was ridiculous and convoluted, I couldn't remember who he was at the time. David Arquette takes a much larger role, which I kinda liked and Courteney Cox also gives a decent turn, but doesn't feel the same as before, she did seem to lose her edge. Out of the new cast I'd say Parker Posey was the standout, very fun and feisty. This was originally meant be the last of the trilogy, until 2011 when part 4 came out.
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QUOTE(Acidburn @ Sep 26 2015, 12:39 PM) *
Freddy just goes full on jokey mode.
That's what Freddy is though. He likes to play on his victim's heartstrings and pasts.
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20. Halloween 4: The Return Of Michael Myers

October 21st 1988
Budget: $5 Million
Box Office Gross: $17.7 Million



Average: 6.5

We start off the top 20 with "Halloween 4", which is definitely one of the better Halloween sequels, which as a whole have been pretty much a mixed bag. This sees the return of Michael Myers after being absent from the previous instalment, due to filmmakers trying something different with part 3 with an entirely new story, but keeping the "Halloween" name, which didn't work out, due to that movie flopping. So it was decided that bringing back the title character would be the way to go. This was meant to be a ghost story, but like I said after what happened previously, that didn't happen (although would have been kinda interesting to see what that would have been like). This also marks the return of Dr Loomis played brilliantly by the late Donald Pleasence, who thought to have died at the end of part 2, but due to his popularity he was brought back. Jamie Lee Curtis was also asked to come back, but she had moved on to a successful film career at that point and so it was explained in this that her character Laurie Stode died in a car accident. But she would come back 10 years later in part 7. So it was decided that the new protagonist would be Michael Myer's niece, played by 7 year old Danielle Harris, making her debut movie role as Jamie Lloyd and makes a fantastic addition to the series. Also joining the cast was Ellie Cornell who played Jamie's step sister Racheal, who again was another brilliant character, very likeable and believable, someone to root for throughout the film. The movie came 6 years after part 3 and also 10 years after the first one and put the series back on the map, by becoming a success at the box office and another sequel was immediately greenlit (which proved to be a disaster). This also goes for the more back to basics approach which totally worked and the rooftop scene was very intense and okay it's not perfect, the truck chase was a bit over the top at the end, but the last scene was very chilling and introduced an interesting twist, but was totally scrapped by the next sequel. So in all this may not be the best Halloween movie, it's still a strong and decent effort.




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19. Child's Play 2

November 9th 1990
Budget: $13 Million
Box Office Gross: $28,501,605



Average: 6.666

At #19 is "Child's Play 2" which was released 2 years after the original and is the 2nd instalment in the Chucky series. This takes a lot more of a comical turn than the first one and was a pretty decent follow up to the first one and ranks as one of the strongest in the franchise. Alex Vincent again returns to play Andy Barclay whose adopted by a new family in this one, Catherine Hicks who played his mother didn't return, it was explained in this that she was sent to a hospital, following the events from the first. Brad Douriff again voices Chucky and does a bang up job. Like I said this isn't as strong as the first one, the storyline is a little weaker and the characters aren't as developed this time round. But it's still a fun time and Chucky's one liners are fun as always.


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Much prefer this to the other sequels.
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18. Halloween II

October 30th 1981
Budget: $2.5 Million
Box Office Gross: $25.5 Million



Average: 7.000

At #18 is the original "Halloween II", the good one, (not the Rob Zombie abortion). This was the 2nd movie in the Halloween series, released 4 years after the original and picks up directly where the last one left off. Despite the open ending of the first one, there was no plans for a sequel, but with the growing slasher boom of the early 80's, this came about in it's peak. John Carpenter didn't come back to direct this one, but he did produce and write the script along with Debra Hill. One of the ideas was that it was gonna take place a few years after the events of the first one and have Laurie Strode being stalked in a apartment building, but was scrapped and it was decided that it would take place on the same night at Haddonfield Hospital. The budget was much higher this time round with $2.5 Million, compared to the original's $320,000 grand. Both Donald Pleasance and Jamie Lee Curtis reprised their roles. This would be Jamie Lee Curtis's last slasher movie after transitioning to mainstream movies, but would return 17 years for H20. This movie also introduces a plot twist with Laurie Strode being Michael Myer's sister, which Carpenter wrote in the script and later admitted that he was drunk while writing that idea. John Carpenter also added a few extra scenes for the movie, containing more blood and nudity, despite current director Rick Rosenthal objections, as it was feared that the movie wouldn't do well due to the era of horror movies at the time, which were becoming more and more violent. Rick Rosenthal also went on to direct the eighth movie "Resurrection" in 2002. This definitely ranks as one of the best sequels in the franchise, although it isn't as strong or chilling as the first one, this one still packs a punch and a worthy follow up and does display some decent tension, especially in the final showdown between Michael and Laurie, it was a shame that Jamie Lee Curtis wasn't in it more, as she mainly sleeping in the hospital bed, but she still does a decent turn, always loved her early slasher movies (Prom Night & Terror Train). This wasn't as successful as the first one's box office of $47 million, but still became a hit with a $25 million gross and this was intended to be the end of the Michael Myers saga with starting a new story for the next sequel while still keeping the "Halloween" title, but he returned in Halloween 4.

There are now just 2 Halloween movies left in this countdown "H20" and the original.


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17. Friday The 13th Pt IV: The Final Chapter


April 13th 1984
Budget: $2.6 Million
Box Office Gross: $32.980,880




Average: 7.25


At #17 is "Friday The 13th: The Final Chapter" which is the 4th instalment in the long running Jason franchise, and despite being billed as the final chapter, a new sequel would follow a year later, due to it's massive success. This is also currently the 5th highest grossing movie in the series and also marks Corey Feldman's first movie role, playing Tommy Jarvis who would come face to face with Jason in this and 2 other sequels (played by different actors in the following ones). Tom Savini was also roped in to do the brilliant gore effects, he had previously turned down one of the earlier sequels to work on another slasher movie "The Burning". This is definitely one of the strongest sequels out of the bunch with some fantastic kills, a decent likeable cast and a just all around fun time. Other familiar faces in this are Crispin Glover who does the strangest dance, which he totally made up on the spot, Laurence Monoson who was in "Mask" alongside Cher, Peter Barton from "Hell Night" and Judie Aronson from "Weird Science". Kimberley Beck who plays the final girl Trish gives a decent performance with a hell of a set of lungs. The series was going strong at this point and honestly glad they didn't end it here, although the same formula got a bit too samey as the series went on, but in all honesty they never got boring and was always guaranteed a good fun ride.




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16. A Nightmare On Elm Street 4: The Dream Master


August 19th 1988
Budget: $13 Million
Box Office Gross: $49.3 Million



Average: 7.35

At #16 is the 4th instalment of the Freddy franchise subtitled "The Dream Master", coming one year after the massive success of part 3 this became an even bigger success with $49 Million gross at the box office, which was the highest out of the lot up until "Freddy Vs Jason" in 2003. This is a pretty decent sequel, but doesn't compare to part 3 though and was obviously rushed in some places. Having the surviving cast from part 3 were killed off very quickly which was very disappointing and so easily as well, plus Patricia Arguette didn't come back as Kristen and was replaced by Tuesday Knight, who quite frankly doesn't compare. This was also where the series started to go downhill, not to say that this was bad, in fact this did have a lot going for it with some decent effects and some inventive death scenes. But in other places you could tell that this was rushed like in one of the death scenes Freddy was invisible and his glove kills one of the characters, which was pretty weak and obviously he wasn't even on set during that scene. But I did love the bright coloured visuals and adventurous dream sequences even if they do lack the creepy and eerie tone. This was also where Freddy became a full on pop culture icon and a lot more jokey, but he was still fantastic as always. One of my fave death scenes has to be the girl turning into a cockroach which was pretty cool. The rest of the cast were okay this time round, but they weren't as fleshed out as before due to the quick pace of this movie, but the new main girl Alice played brilliantly by Lisa Wilcox does stand out amongst the newcomers and does give the best and well rounded performance. So despite it's flaws it never gets boring and there's a lot of fun to be had with this.


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15. Bride Of Chucky


October 16th 1998
Budget: $25 Million
Box Office Gross: $32,383,850


Average: 7.5

At #15 we have my personal fave Chucky movie "Bride Of Chucky" which now only leaves one movie left in the series to come. This was the 4th instalment of the franchise and while it does follow the other 3, it takes a more dark humorous turn and borders on self parody. This also marks the first appearance of Chucky's sidekick Tiffany voiced brilliantly by Jennifer Tilly. This however brought new life to the franchise and honestly loved the addition of Tiffany and the interactions between the two were really funny and never once gets boring and after the disappointing part 3 this did give a much needed boost. Originally Julia Stiles was cast as Jade in this but dropped out to do "10 Things I Hate About You" and Katherine Heigl was cast in one of her before she became famous roles and in this one she's actually likeable. Okay this may not be scary but come on are any of the Chucky movies actually scary, I mean how can you make a killer doll with witty one liners scary, this may add a lot more humour than before, but it doesn't skimp on the good stuff either, there is still a lot of violence and fun to be had in this with some cool inventive kills and a decent cast both Brad Dourif and Jennifer Tilly work amazing together and glad that this wasn't their only movie together, the follow up wasn't nowhere near as good, but this one will forever hold a place in my heart.




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Yeah Queen Patricia Arquette was so much better as Kristen. Made me so hype for CSI: Cyber with her presence. Done so well ever since.

Killing off Joey Crusel was probably the biggest mistake in the series.
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Nightmare on Elm St 4 is in some ways my 2nd favourite of the series even though I'm fairly certain it's pretty average. It does have the distinction of me drifting in and out of sleep both times I attempted to watch it (a combination of beer, drugs and all night partying on both occasions).
Subsequently I'm not entirely sure what actually happens although I do remember 'bug girl' but my recollection is it'a totally messed up (might be dreams)
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14. Child's Play


November 9th 1988
Budget: $9 Million
Box Office Gross: $33,244,684


Average: 7.636


At #14 we say a fond farewell to the last of the Chucky movies to feature in this countdown, this was originally 2 places higher but the ones at #12 and #13 managed some higher scores towards the end and so this dropped slightly, which is a shame as I'd hoped that at least one of these would have ranked in the top 10, but at least 3 of the best ones did manage to make the top 20 here. This was the one that started the whole killer doll craze and was the first of what would become 6 sequels in this franchise. This one plays the more straight up horror angle, by not actually showing Chucky until towards the end, which actually does work and helps build the tension and suspence throughout. The original script for this was gonna be a whodunit which dealt with the effects of advertising/television has on children and it was gonna make the audience wonder who the killer would be either Andy or Chucky, or have Andy with a split personality with Chucky as his alter ego which would have been an interesting concept, but glad they stuck with the killer doll angle, as this would have probably proved too risky and plus we wouldn't have the iconic Chucky franchise. It was also rumoured that the Good Guy doll was based on My Buddy dolls, which was denied and was claimed that the creator modelled it after the Cabbage Patch Kids. For a premise consisting of a killer doll does actually work and doesn't venture in complete silliness (which would happen with some of the later sequels), but this does pull off the psychological angle really well and not having Chucky speak for the first 40 minutes, does build up really well and what makes this movie work also is the strong performances. Brad Douriff totally steals the show voicing the amazing Chucky and honestly couldn't imagine anyone else doing that voice. Alex Vincent who plays Andy also gives a strong performance especially for a child and Catherine Hicks as his mother was also brilliant and it was such a shame that she didn't return for any of the sequels, but hopefully she will come back one day.



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13. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)


October 17th 2003
Budget: $9.5 Million
Box Office Gross: $80,571,655



Average: 7.642


At #13 we have the last of the remakes to feature here which is the 2003 reboot to "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre", coming almost 30 years after the original. This is also the 5th instalment of the Leatherface franchise and while I normally not a fan of horror or any remakes, this is actually very decent and breathed new life into the series which had been totally dead up until this point. This was also the 3rd time that this series had been rebooted and first to become successful after the box office failures of 3 and 4, with a gross of a $107 Million worldwide, making this the most successful out of the bunch. This also started the horror remake craze of the decade as Platinum Dunes who produced this also did remakes of The Hitcher, Amityville Horror, Friday The 13th and A Nightmare On Elm Street, all of which are terrible and totally missed the point. But this is the one that actually works and okay it doesn't compare anywhere near the original, but I would rank this as the 2nd best out of the series with it's slick and stylish production and really amps up the gore. The performances are also really decent here with Jessica Biel playing the obvious final girl and would put her on the path to stardom, other actresses considered for the part were Jessica Alba and Katie Holmes. But it's R Lee Ermey who steals the show here are Sheriff Hoyt, with his twisted and sadistic side that makes him a brilliant villain and finally Andrew Bryniarksi who plays Leatheface really sank his teeth into the part and brought a raw and emotional essence to the role, while being menacing and imposing figure at the same time and really pulling it off greatly. The other cast were quite forgettable to be honest and this movie did lack scares, but overall a very decent effort.





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