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When will Justin Biebers relevance end?
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post Dec 22 2015, 10:57 PM
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At the moment he's dominating the charts and the whole music world.. but when will this domination stop? Will it stop??

Imo - he'll have one more big hit in mid 2016 and then die down for a while.
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:01 PM
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• He'll dominate 2016 [he won't get another #1 single but should get some more big hits, and his current 3 singles will still be in the chart for the first few months of the year]
• Not bothered
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:03 PM
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He will never die down & Never biggrin.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:03 PM
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Justin Bieber is the new Rihanna nocheer.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:04 PM
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Not bothered tbh but he's performing at the Brits so it certainly won't be the beginning of the year tongue.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(Danta Claus @ Dec 22 2015, 11:01 PM) *
• He'll dominate 2016 [he won't get another #1 single but should get some more big hits, and his current 3 singles will still be in the chart for the first few months of the year]
• Not bothered

I think Children could go big if it gets a release, maybe not #1 though.

I see him dominating half of 2016 and I say I prefer that to be the outcome as well. He's been big ever since Baby with the publicity he keeps getting kink.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:46 PM
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You can't really predict when someone's relevance will end, it just happens naturally. Rihanna seemed unstoppable back in 2010/2011 and I'm sure no one thought anyone could be bigger and now her star's fading slightly, maybe he'll go the same route in about four/five years time. Just have to wait and see, for the next year at least, it'd be hard pressed for him to do much wrong.
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:48 PM
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They all die down. You can count artists like Elvis on one hand. He has real longevity. Bieber is one in a long line of young heartthrobs for the teenage girl audience. He will be popular for a few years until the next lucky one comes along.

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post Dec 22 2015, 11:50 PM
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I'd argue a band like Coldplay have true longevity in this era!
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(Santa @ Dec 22 2015, 11:03 PM) *
Justin Bieber is the new Rihanna nocheer.gif
I was going to post that if streaming had been as popular / included in the charts in 2010 and 2011 then Rihanna would probably have dominated the charts like Justin Bieber is now doing. Similarly Lady GaGa would have probably done so in 2009 / early 2010.

Unfortunately streaming means that the likelihood of one or two acts completely dominating the charts is now more likely, especially as download sales are collapsing fast mainly because younger people are choosing to stream instead. I expect that by this time next year many popular acts (like the Bieber's of this world) will be reaching number 1 on a regular basis with download sales below 20,000 while streaming sales will be getting closer to 100,000 for the big hits, especially if the charts, as seems a high probability, start to include audio streaming data from the likes of YouTube and Vevo.
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post Dec 23 2015, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(Brian Quinn @ Dec 22 2015, 11:48 PM) *
They all die down. You can count artists like Elvis on one hand. He has real longevity. Bieber is one in a long line of young heartthrobs for the teenage girl audience. He will be popular for a few years until the next lucky one comes along.

Brian
But he's already been around for almost 6 years but just seems to be peaking now. It looked like his time was up in 2013 but he's come back stronger than ever.
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post Dec 23 2015, 12:16 AM
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^^Yeh it's no surprise he would get a decent producer when he matured a bit and have a sound to appeal to more people!
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post Dec 23 2015, 01:56 AM
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Bieber in the UK is simply benefiting from the streaming rules. His big fan base ensures that his records stay high. If it was just a sales chart he would be able to dominate that charts for a few weeks tops, since the fans have to buy his records, once they have them - end of chart life. Not so with streaming, his fans can ensure that his records stay high, by doing what they like to do anyway just listen to the records. They don't even have to try to keep him top, there at that many of them it just happens.
Oddly the fact that the streaming keeps the records high, people who still buy records then hear about him so the cycle encourages even more popularity for him.

Sadly it's turned the UK charts into the Justin Bieber is God Chart. Not that anyone cares about the charts anymore!
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post Dec 23 2015, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(Brian Quinn @ Dec 22 2015, 11:48 PM) *
They all die down. You can count artists like Elvis on one hand. He has real longevity. Bieber is one in a long line of young heartthrobs for the teenage girl audience. He will be popular for a few years until the next lucky one comes along.

Brian


The time to make this comment was in 2010, and it's been proven wrong. He has already passed this phase and he's clearly expanded his audience since then. Like him or not, you can't just pass him off as a 'young heartthrob for the teenage girl audience' any more, and he DOES have genuine longevity.

QUOTE(Graham A @ Dec 23 2015, 01:56 AM) *
Bieber in the UK is simply benefiting from the streaming rules. His big fan base ensures that his records stay high. If it was just a sales chart he would be able to dominate that charts for a few weeks tops, since the fans have to buy his records, once they have them - end of chart life. Not so with streaming, his fans can ensure that his records stay high, by doing what they like to do anyway just listen to the records. They don't even have to try to keep him top, there at that many of them it just happens.
Oddly the fact that the streaming keeps the records high, people who still buy records then hear about him so the cycle encourages even more popularity for him.

Sadly it's turned the UK charts into the Justin Bieber is God Chart. Not that anyone cares about the charts anymore!


You are aware the sales-only chart is still published right? And, shock horror, Bieber has been dominating that as well for the past few months.
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post Dec 23 2015, 02:05 AM
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He'll dominate all of next year at least, then presumably have a quieter period before the next album. If he contineus the wide appeal he has right now, he'll dominate with the next album too. He's massively re-invented himself and it's now cool to like Justin Bieber, which is impressive considering just earlier this year, he was probably a guilty pleasure for most!

As for me, I never want it to end *.* Waited too long for him to finally smash big time in the UK kink.gif

Oh and with regards to streaming, I don't see why it's relevant in this topic. Sure, he's dominating Spotify and the like, but it's not like he's doing badly on the sales chart either.
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post Dec 23 2015, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(Brian Quinn @ Dec 22 2015, 11:48 PM) *
They all die down. You can count artists like Elvis on one hand. He has real longevity. Bieber is one in a long line of young heartthrobs for the teenage girl audience. He will be popular for a few years until the next lucky one comes along.

Brian


I second that.
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post Dec 23 2015, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Cheznuts @ Dec 22 2015, 11:46 PM) *
You can't really predict when someone's relevance will end, it just happens naturally. Rihanna seemed unstoppable back in 2010/2011 and I'm sure no one thought anyone could be bigger and now her star's fading slightly, maybe he'll go the same route in about four/five years time. Just have to wait and see, for the next year at least, it'd be hard pressed for him to do much wrong.


I just mean, when will his ridiculous domination of the charts become a more modest domination and so on laugh.gif
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post Dec 23 2015, 10:07 AM
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Unfortunately, I think he will continue to dominate the charts next year. His music is very bland and dull so I don't get it personally.
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post Dec 23 2015, 10:52 AM
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I thought it was already over with his fans growing up and him being a complete brat but then this album happened. I've not quite fathomed why though. He has quite a thin, whiny voice and it's pretty beige but the songs appear to have taken people.
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post Dec 23 2015, 11:43 AM
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I thought that streams were attributed to the parent album somehow, so how come this extraordinary singles chart domination?
I like "Love Yourself".
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