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Styles Bilinski
post Feb 18 2016, 09:04 AM
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The voting in the Eurovision Song Contest is set to be radically transformed in 2016. In previous years the results of the professional juries and viewers have been presented as a combined result, each accounting for 50 percent of the final score. From 2016, the professional juries and televoters from each country will each award a separate set of points from 1 to 8, 10 and 12. This now means the top 10 countries in both the jury and televote will receive points, adding a new level of excitement for hundreds of millions of viewers in Europe and beyond.

How does it work?

After viewers have cast their votes by telephone, SMS or using the official app, each national spokesperson from the 43 participating countries will be called in to present the points of their professional jury. After the presentation of the scores from the juries, the televoting points from all participating countries will be combined, providing one score for each song. These televoting results will then be announced by the host, starting with the country receiving the fewest points from the public and ending with the country that received the highest number of points, building towards a guaranteed climax.

For those wanting to know how their country has voted, the televoting and jury scores from each participating country will be available after the show on Eurovision.tv.


Interesting way of doing things, and how they have gone for a combined system a la MF.. Not sure I like them announcing the jury votes via the spokesperson though :S
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:07 AM
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It's incredible and I LOVE IT (especially because of how much it will rile up fans with nothing better to do, but also because it's HIGHLY EXCITING)

HOWEVER, the one element I don't like is the proposal for how San Marino et al will do televotes - they'll average out the votes of countries with 'similar voting patterns' to create a virtual televote for those countries, which seems LUDICROUS and open to a lot of skewing, especially at the semi final level.
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:08 AM
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This is screwing up the stats if the amount of points being awarded is doubled. And what are the chances of another nil pointer now
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Feb 18 2016, 09:07 AM) *
HOWEVER, the one element I don't like is the proposal for how San Marino et al will do televotes - they'll average out the votes of countries with 'similar voting patterns' to create a virtual televote for those countries, which seems LUDICROUS and open to a lot of skewing, especially at the semi final level.


OH DEAR GOD I haven't even got to this bit yet
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(J▲hq @ Feb 18 2016, 09:08 AM) *
This is screwing up the stats if the amount of points being awarded is doubled. And what are the chances of another nil pointer now

The stats are already incomparable between years, it was only the similar points that made us think they were. The switch to a 1-26 formulation for the 50/50 calculations in 2013 really changed things a lot compared with the much simpler and more logical top ten 50/50 of 2009 to 2012. This is arguably just an extrapolation of the latter - we'll still be able to calculate who'd have won under the old system by adding together the jury and the televote along the lines of the 2009-2012 system.
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:25 AM
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That sounds ludicrous, I'm all for it!

I like them doing jury votes via spokesperson, gives a big old level of scrutiny to those votes, and these now aren't going to be muffled by the old diasporas so they don't even have an excuse for corruption.
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:49 AM
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Oh for FUCK'S SAKE

Jury spokespeople are only announcing 12s!
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I'm so on board with this, on the basis that
a) It's actually better and will create a bigger buzz in the voting
b) it will piss of those who repel change, who probably still yearn for the days of scoring every song out of 5. blink.gif
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Feb 18 2016, 09:07 AM) *
HOWEVER, the one element I don't like is the proposal for how San Marino et al will do televotes - they'll average out the votes of countries with 'similar voting patterns' to create a virtual televote for those countries, which seems LUDICROUS and open to a lot of skewing, especially at the semi final level.

Oh actually now I've read the small print, each televote for countries that don't reach the threshold will be based on a 'focus group' drawn from a few preselected countries, which doesn't feel quite as bad. Open to fiddling but if it's basically a focus group of the Albanias, San Marinos, Bulgarias et al it feels a little more true.
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post Feb 18 2016, 10:59 AM
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looks complicated. people are guaranteed to be confised as f*** during the results
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post Feb 18 2016, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(💯 @ Feb 18 2016, 10:59 AM) *
looks complicated. people are guaranteed to be confised as f*** during the results

Uh, not really. It's the Melodifestivalen system. Juries announce their points. Then the televote gets announced in a single block.
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post Feb 18 2016, 11:20 AM
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It's everything I've wanted it to be since they drafted in the jury vote so yay for this!
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post Feb 18 2016, 11:25 AM
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I can imagine they'd do the lower televotes in blocks unless they really want to get the tension going.

(everyone who approved the decision for spokespeople to be only announcing 12s can go screw themselves)
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post Feb 18 2016, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Feb 18 2016, 11:25 AM) *
I can imagine they'd do the lower televotes in blocks unless they really want to get the tension going.

(everyone who approved the decision for spokespeople to be only announcing 12s can go screw themselves)

If they're announcing in twelves for the jury I reckon they'll do what each country received in the televote individually. They'll have plenty of time.
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post Feb 18 2016, 11:33 AM
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Mmm, yeah, didn't think of the time issues. They're definitely doing this with a nice timed show in mind.

It sounds very exciting on the whole honestly. I'm looking forward to the nationalists tuning out when we inevitably come 3rd last in the televotes, if they haven't already because it's all so 'bliddy different'.
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post Feb 18 2016, 11:34 AM
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Another upside: with the traditionally more disparate jury votes being announced we'll likely have less bitching and whinging about neighbourly voting *.*
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post Feb 18 2016, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Feb 18 2016, 02:02 PM) *
Uh, not really. It's the Melodifestivalen system. Juries announce their points. Then the televote gets announced in a single block.

i'm just saying it's not really how it used to be done so it's bound to create confusion with people who tune in in the middle of the voting process or who didn't listen to the presenters at the beginning/at all~
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I'm sure they'll live.
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post Feb 18 2016, 11:43 AM
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anyway, i'm really excited to see how this will work <3 the chances of getting another nul pointer are basically 0 now tho ;_; but it's all going to be so exciting.
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Looking forward to this. I presume the semis are scored in the same way and the announcement just remains the same?
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