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jafetsigfinns
post May 27 2016, 04:19 PM
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So, I've been thinking about this for a while, but if we discount featured singer Kyla and the presumable female vocalists in the Lewisham & Greenwich NHS Choir's holiday #1 (haven't listened to that song I'll admit, so maybe it's a male choir please don't hate me if I'm wrong biggrin.gif ), then the last time a female singer reached Number 1 was in Adele's 3rd and final week at No. 1 on November 19th last year. That's 27 weeks without a female singer at the top. That has to be the longest stretch for a while, right? Especially given that it doesn't seem poised to stop any time soon since JT is just about ready to take over for a few weeks.

Also, does anyone know what is the longest the chart has gone without a Male number one?


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post May 27 2016, 04:20 PM
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Streaming favours males due to the demographics of users of streaming services like Spotify. It's just a fact. It's sad what the music industry has become.
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post May 27 2016, 04:26 PM
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Does it not just make it fairer and more realistic about how people consume music?
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post May 27 2016, 04:30 PM
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Most likely because there are more super-popular male artists releasing music right now than there are females (of which we only have Rihanna and Beyoncé at the moment - the former being unlucky to miss #1 on two occasions and the latter not having the slightest of a chance of a #1 single with her release strategy)
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post May 27 2016, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(MishaB @ May 27 2016, 05:20 PM) *
Streaming favours males due to the demographics of users of streaming services like Spotify. It's just a fact.


To some extent I know what you mean, though there haven't really been many female singers going to #1 on iTunes recently either...

There aren't really many huge female stars in the industry compared to males, and many of those that are big like Beyonce, Rihanna and Taylor Swift have weird release strategies (Tidal exclusive/say no to Spotify etc...).

I do feel like it's harder for female artists to get to #1 though, and those that do are generally major established stars (apart from Rachel Platten...still don't know how that got there!) whereas male artists don't have as big a problem in that respect. I guess demographics have a lot to do with that, especially in the streaming era.

Still Zara Larsson wasn't that far off with Lush Life and Sia really ought to have got a week in with Cheap Thrills.


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post May 28 2016, 09:07 AM
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Great points guys, but my question was: is this the longest we've gone without a female number one? If not, does anyone know of longer "droughts"? Same question for guy-vacant number one stretches.
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post May 28 2016, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(jafetsigfinns @ May 28 2016, 09:07 PM) *
Great points guys, but my question was: is this the longest we've gone without a female number one? If not, does anyone know of longer "droughts"? Same question for guy-vacant number one stretches.


There was 37 weeks between Cher's 'Shoop Shoop Song' & Shakespeare's Sister's 'Stay' in 91-92 & 42 weeks between Sally Sweetland's 'I'm Walking Behind You' & Doris Days' 'Secret Love' in the 50s so yes there's definitely been longer droughts.

Really what we're all waiting for now is a new Jess Glynne banger to end this current run.
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post May 28 2016, 09:35 AM
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Given that this hasn't been a problem since 1991 I dont think it's a major problem.

Not that I disagree but reading gooddelta's point about "There aren't really many huge female stars in the industry compared to males" feels somehow very at odds the history of pop music - especially given that from 2009 - 2012 we were in the throws of Gaga/Perry/Rihanna/Beyonce domination.

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post May 28 2016, 10:03 AM
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But there must be periods where more females were getting #1s, so I'd still be interested to hear of any guy-droughts.
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post May 28 2016, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(Mango @ May 28 2016, 11:03 AM) *
I'd still be interested to hear of any guy-droughts.



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post May 28 2016, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(Colm @ May 28 2016, 11:17 AM) *
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The best I can think of is 10 weeks in 1988 when Belinda Carlisle, Tiffany and Kylie Minogue spent 2, 3 and 5 weeks at number one with Heaven Is A Place On Earth, I Think We're Alone Now and I Should Be So Lucky respectively.

There was 13 weeks (Run by Leona Lewis, Hallelujah by Alexandra Burke, Just Dance by Lady Gaga, The Fear by Lily Allen and My Life Would Suck Without You by Kelly Clarkson) in 2008-2009, but Just Dance features Colby O'Donis.


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post May 28 2016, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(Colm @ May 28 2016, 10:35 AM) *
Not that I disagree but reading gooddelta's point about "There aren't really many huge female stars in the industry compared to males" feels somehow very at odds the history of pop music - especially given that from 2009 - 2012 we were in the throws of Gaga/Perry/Rihanna/Beyonce domination.


True, but how many of those are as big now?

Beyonce yes, but she's got a release strategy that will never get her a #1 single, Rihanna's not *quite* as big as she was then but you feel she could easily get a #1 single with the right song and a regular release strategy.

Gaga I don't see getting another #1 single and Katy Perry could but Prism was a drop off in success terms from Teenage Dream so that could just as easily happen again this time, it's hard to tell. The only others I hold in the same category are Taylor Swift (not on Spotify so no #1) and Adele, whose 29 won't be out for another few years!

Anyway, I'm sure some big female hit will come out soon enough, probably from an unexpected source. If Keisza and Rachel Platten can get #1s then I'm sure others can. I'd say Emeli Sande too but while her album is likely to be huge, I'm not sure the lead single will be a #1 for her.
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post May 28 2016, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(gooddelta @ May 28 2016, 11:37 AM) *
Anyway, I'm sure some big female hit will come out soon enough, probably from an unexpected source. If Keisza and Rachel Platten can get #1s then I'm sure others can. I'd say Emeli Sande too but while her album is likely to be huge, I'm not sure the lead single will be a #1 for her.

Would those Kiesza and Rachel Platten songs have been #1s in today's climate though? Both relied on the held-back release strategy to get to #1 and in the case of the latter, she didn't even sell 60k to get there.
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post May 28 2016, 10:51 AM
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Rihanna and Beyonce seem to be in more artistic modes now - probably bored with the traditional pop belter format.
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post May 28 2016, 11:22 AM
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Mainly female artists dominate my charts doesn't seem to be the case with Uk charts though, in a perfect world Paramore etc would have loads of number ones, bit different with them as they're group, as for solo artists there's Ella Henderson
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post May 28 2016, 11:22 AM
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I think it's very old fashioned to divide artists by their genders really...
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post May 28 2016, 12:52 PM
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Beyonce and Rihanna are more concerned about pushing Tidal
than about having a @1
If put on itunes/Spotify after the superbowl
Formation would have been @1 for 2 months wink.gif
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post May 28 2016, 01:28 PM
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5 consecutive male #1's seem more dominant, when they're averaging 3.8 weeks at the top, in periods of slower #1 turnover than in sustained periods of 1 week wonders when they'd only cover 6 or 7 weeks (averaging 1.2-1.4 weeks)~
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post May 29 2016, 12:37 AM
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Beyonce hasn't had a number 1 for six years though
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