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post Jun 15 2016, 07:53 PM
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Since we got a contender in PJ Harvey with her recent album.

Christina and Pnau should be there at least?
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post Jun 15 2016, 08:10 PM
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Faithless and The Lumineers would be on the list too.
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post Jun 15 2016, 08:11 PM
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If you mean lowest selling in the week they went to number 1, then the top 3 are Cleopatra by the Lumineers, Faithless 2.0 by Faithless and Talk That Talk by Rihanna

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post Jun 15 2016, 08:11 PM
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I have a list of uncertified #1 albums, let me find it...
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post Jun 15 2016, 08:35 PM
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As in total sales happy.gif

Thanks, curious to see what the list looks like!
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post Jun 15 2016, 08:37 PM
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Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman (2016) 31,000
Bob Dylan - Shadows in the Night (2015) 45,000+
Catfish and the Bottlemen - The Ride (2016) 47,000
Elton John vs Pnau - Good Morning to the Night (2012) 30,000+
Faithless - Faithless 2.0 (2015) 50,000+
Paul Simon - Stranger to Stranger (2016) 19,000
PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project (2016) 20,000
The Chemical Brothers - Born in the Echoes (2015) 40,000+
The Last Shadow Puppets - Everything You've Come to Expect (2016) 59,000
The Lumineers - Cleopatra (2016) 29,000
The Maccabees - Marks to Prove It (2015) 50,000+
Zayn - Mind of Mine (2016) 50,000

PJ Harvey without a doubt has the worse sales for a #1 album (ignoring Paul Simon atm of course). It's chart run is equally as disastrous: 1-23-57-100-136-170-OUT

The Lumineers aren't doing very well either with their chart run of 1-13-26-34-39-52-80-92-134-

The least accurate on the list is the sales for Good Morning to the Night. With that not appearing in the charts since 2012, it's hard to guess whether it's still in the 30-35k region or 35k+
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post Jun 15 2016, 09:04 PM
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Ouch at PJ.. Hopefully it will recover in some way or another. Thanks for the list Liam happy.gif
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post Jun 15 2016, 10:19 PM
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I know this is slightly off topic but its low selling number 1 albums that had me thinking what really is more important getting number 1 then nosediving down the chart with little sale or hovering aaroundfor ages never reaching the summit bit selling consistentlyand strongly
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post Jun 15 2016, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(777666jason @ Jun 15 2016, 11:19 PM) *
I know this is slightly off topic but its low selling number 1 albums that had me thinking what really is more important getting number 1 then nosediving down the chart with little sale or hovering aaroundfor ages never reaching the summit bit selling consistentlyand strongly
I suppose it depends on what the artist / act prefers. A number 1 album or an album which charts lower but sells a decent amount over a longer period of time without ever hitting the top. These days an act would probably go for a high entry even if it is followed by a ridiculous drop the following week.
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post Jun 15 2016, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Robbie @ Jun 15 2016, 11:50 PM) *
I suppose it depends on what the artist / act prefers. A number 1 album or an album which charts lower but sells a decent amount over a longer period of time without ever hitting the top. These days an act would probably go for a high entry even if it is followed by a ridiculous drop the following week.



Why would they do that? Wouldn't a record company be happier with selling a decent amount over a longer period that plummeting and sellling less than 50,000 over all?
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post Jun 15 2016, 11:06 PM
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On a related note, what's the lowest ever selling #1 single? (of recent times I guess - probably hard to get accurate data from older charts)

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post Jun 15 2016, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(Mango @ Jun 16 2016, 12:06 AM) *
On a related note, what's the lowest ever selling #1 single? (of recent times I guess - probably hard to get accurate data from older charts)



I assume the lowest selling number 2 single is Empty Souls from Manic Street Preachers.
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post Jun 15 2016, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Colm @ Jun 15 2016, 11:59 PM) *
Why would they do that? Wouldn't a record company be happier with selling a decent amount over a longer period that plummeting and sellling less than 50,000 over all?

That's what I think too but I suppose it sounds good on paper that you can boast a #1 - kind of like Westlife with their 14 #1s even though only about three deserved to be there in terms of the status of what a #1 is supposed to be.

QUOTE(Mango @ Jun 16 2016, 12:06 AM) *
On a related note, what's the lowest ever selling #1 single? (of recent times I guess - probably hard to get accurate data from older charts)

'Baby's Coming Back/Transylvania' by McFly I believe. It sold just 51k in the year of its release and it had failed to sell above 85k to make the list of Top 10 McFly singles in 2012.

I also don't think Sam & Mark's (remember them? no I don't either) cover of 'With a Little Help From My Friends' has managed to sell 100k+ either.
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post Jun 15 2016, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Colm @ Jun 15 2016, 11:59 PM) *
Why would they do that? Wouldn't a record company be happier with selling a decent amount over a longer period that plummeting and sellling less than 50,000 over all?
It depends on the act. Many acts make more money from touring these days than they do from album sales, that's why many labels have what they call 360 degree contracts with acts - the money comes in from much more sales. It usually includes money from concerts, merchandising, publishing and other sources as well as sales. The latter usually provides the smallest amount of revenue.
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post Jun 15 2016, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(liamk97 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:13 AM) *
That's what I think too but I suppose it sounds good on paper that you can boast a #1 - kind of like Westlife with their 14 #1s even though only about three deserved to be there in terms of the status of what a #1 is supposed to be.
'Baby's Coming Back/Transylvania' by McFly I believe. It sold just 51k in the year of its release and it had failed to sell above 85k to make the list of Top 10 McFly singles in 2012.

Yeah I thought it might have been that but I didn't wanna believe it because I adore 'Transylvania' sad.gif
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post Jun 15 2016, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(liamk97 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:13 AM) *
'Baby's Coming Back/Transylvania' by McFly I believe. It sold just 51k in the year of its release and it had failed to sell above 85k to make the list of Top 10 McFly singles in 2012.


That's because McFly were (un?)fortunate enough to be at the peak of their popularity between 2004 and 2008, when record sales were at a catastrophic low. Still, extremely few acts have had seven UK number 1 singles.


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QUOTE(JCM20 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:55 AM) *
That's because McFly were unfortunate enough to be at the peak of their popularity between 2004 and 2008, when record sales were at a catastrophic low. Still, extremely few acts have had seven UK number 1 singles.

Most of the lowest selling #1s came from that period, although they all had poor chart runs so they'd probably still be bottom even if all chart years were an equal playing field.
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post Jun 16 2016, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(liamk97 @ Jun 15 2016, 09:37 PM) *
Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman (2016) 31,000
Bob Dylan - Shadows in the Night (2015) 45,000+
Catfish and the Bottlemen - The Ride (2016) 47,000
Elton John vs Pnau - Good Morning to the Night (2012) 30,000+
Faithless - Faithless 2.0 (2015) 50,000+
Paul Simon - Stranger to Stranger (2016) 19,000
PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project (2016) 20,000
The Chemical Brothers - Born in the Echoes (2015) 40,000+
The Last Shadow Puppets - Everything You've Come to Expect (2016) 59,000
The Lumineers - Cleopatra (2016) 29,000
The Maccabees - Marks to Prove It (2015) 50,000+
Zayn - Mind of Mine (2016) 50,000

None of them are particularly surprising (not including Catfish, Paul and Ariana, since they'll inevitably rack up higher sales in the coming weeks) bar Zayn. 50k is utterly appalling given the selling power of 1D, plus the fact that it contains a huge #1 single. Does that figure include streaming too?


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PJ Harvey is doing the festival circuit this summer so hopefully that helps sales...
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post Jun 16 2016, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Jun 16 2016, 09:01 AM) *
PJ Harvey is doing the festival circuit this summer so hopefully that helps sales...



Plus she might get a mercury nomination.
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