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post Jun 21 2016, 05:47 PM
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Hello and welcome Buzzjack to the Disney Animate Classics rate results, after weeks of voting and 55 movies in the running, the results have been counted along with the character rate which will be posted first, then the countdown for the movies will start.

The results will begin later tonight, so any thoughts, any predictions, please say so in this thread.


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Wahhhh at missing this!
Hope the Lion King and Sleeping Beauty do well, they're my absolute faves.
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QUOTE(Cremey @ Jun 21 2016, 06:49 PM) *
Wahhhh at missing this!
Hope the Lion King and Sleeping Beauty do well, they're my absolute faves.

Quick rate anyway and add it in!!

Really excited for this. Lion King, Aladdin, Jungle Book, 101 Dalmations to do very well and Fox and the Hound, Bambi, Aristocats, Robin Hood, Mulan and Lilo and Stitch to do v decently *.*
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Hyped, Sleeping Beauty to win!! cheer.gif cheer.gif
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post Jun 21 2016, 07:01 PM
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Lion King to underperform please. Here for Tangled and Lilo & Stich tbh
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post Jun 21 2016, 08:04 PM
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There were 65 different Disney characters that got votes, not bad considering only 6 of you voted, but it's worked out that in 1st place gets 20 points and so on, plus there were a lot of ties, so I will try and get through them as quickly as possible.


Starting off here's all the ones that just got 1 vote each =




=65th. Esmeralda (The Hunchback Of Notre Dame) = 1 Point





=65th. Jiminy Cricket (Pinocchio & Fun & Fancy Free) = 1 Point





=65th. Flounder (The Little Mermaid) = 1 Point



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post Jun 21 2016, 08:14 PM
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as long as the lion king is in the top 10, i'm happy
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post Jun 22 2016, 08:20 PM
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= 62nd White Queen (Alice In Wonderland) = 2 Points




=62nd Mushu (Mulan) = 2 Points




=62nd Merlin (The Sword In The Stone = 2 Points




=59th Dopey (Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs) = 3 Points




=59th Timon (The Lion King) = 3 Points



I will start doing commentaries when we get to the characters that have scored 10 or more.
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post Jun 22 2016, 08:34 PM
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=57th Rafiki (The Lion King) = 4 Points




=57th Pumbaa (The Lion King) = 4 Points




=57th Baymax (Big Hero 6) = 4 Points




=54th Red Queen (Alice In Wonderland) = 5 Points




=54th Rajah (Aladdin) = 5 Points
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post Jun 22 2016, 08:57 PM
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=52nd Quasimodo (The Hunchback Of Notre Dame) = 6 Points




=52nd Tiana (The Princess and the Frog) = 6 Points




=52nd Gaston (Beauty and the Beast) = 6 Points




=49th Kronk (The Emperor's New Groove) = 9 Points




=49th Nala (The Lion King) = 9 Points




=49th Stitch (Lilo & Stitch) = 9 Points




=49th Aladdin (Aladdin) = 9 Points
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=45th The Cheshire Cat (Alice In Wonderland) = 10 Points

The 3rd 'Alice In Wonderland' character to appear in this countdown, surprisingly beating The Red Queen. Mischievous and takes pleasure in misleading Alice and can dislodge his head from his body, as well as appear invisible, his colourful design is quite striking and he is one of many memorable characters from the classic.



=45th Li Shang (Mulan) = 10 Points

The 2nd most popular character from 'Mulan' according to Buzzjack, beating comic relief 'Mushu' by quite a mile. The captain of the Chinese army and one of the main characters in the Disney classic, a strong and powerful force in commanding his soldiers, but perhaps his most memorable moment was his song "I'll Make A Man Out Of You".



=45th Shere Khan (The Jungle Book) = 10 Points

The wonderfully fearsome Shere Khan whose the main villain in 'The Jungle Book' who even without even doing anything can come across as evil and menacing, the big build up to him before he even enters the frame was interesting, he rules the jungle with an iron fist and comes across as very charming until he moves in for the kill.




=42nd Prince Phillip (Sleeping Beauty) = 11 Points

The first ever Prince in the classic fairytale Disney genre that has a character and says more than 3 lines, and in fact the first Prince to actually do something other than show up and take the Princess away to a land far, far away. He shows courage and personality, plus he defeats the dragon in the end and wins, so that's something.



=42nd Piglet (The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh & Winnie The Pooh (2011) = 11 Points

The ever lovable Piglet, the only character from Winnie The Pooh to feature in this countdown and gaining scores from 2 votes a 4 and a 7 which brings his total to 11. One of Winnie The Pooh's many closest friends as well as probably apart from the title character being the most fondly remembered.



=42nd Beast (Beauty and the Beast) = 11 Points

Here we have the lovable 'Beast' from the fantastic classic 'Beauty and the Beast', a pampered and mean Prince who gets cursed into a beast for his selfish and cold hearted ways and has to earn the love of Belle in order to transform back into his human self. At first he's angry and hot tempered but as events go on we see him and Belle build their relationship and he starts softening and that's when we all start to love him, honestly I was disappointed when he turned human at the end, because he was so brilliant in his animal form, but oh well that's the way the story goes I suppose.
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=39th Scar (The Lion King) = 12 Points

The main antagonist from 'The Lion King' who does actually succeed in killing his brother and taking his throne, until Simba comes back. Voiced by the ever amazing Jeremy Iron who injects so much enthusiasm into this character who is so cunning and evil that he is just a delight to watch.



=39th Cinderella (Cinderella) = 12 Points

Here we have the lovely Cinderella the title character, everybody knows who she is and everybody knows the story. As a character she always remains nice and kind, no matter how horrible things get and in the end she gets her happy ending which was well deserved.



=39th Mickey Mouse (Fantasia, Fun & Fancy Free & Fantasia 2000) = 12 Points

Here we have the face of Disney himself Mickey Mouse who apart from featuring 3 of the Disney Animated Features, he featured in several of his own movies and TV shows. The first ever creation from Walt Disney himself and has become the official mascot for Disney ever since.



=39th Snow White (Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs) = 12 Points

The very first Disney Princess Snow White and also the first female fictional star to receive a star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame. There have been many incarnations of this character through the years, but this is definitely the most well known and loved. Kind, sweet, thoughtful and how can you not love her.
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=35th Judy Hopps (Zootopia) = 13 Points

Judy Hopps from Disney's latest smash hit 'Zootopia', considering how new the film is, it is surprising that she's this high on the list, but given the fact that the movie is so brilliant and she was probably the best thing in it. Plucky and determined and has already won the hearts of the nation and will probably climb higher on the list in years to come.



=35th Jafar (Aladdin) = 13 Points

The wonderfully camp villain Jafar from Disney's 'Aladdin', an evil sorcerer whose very powerful and also has brilliant comic timing and his design is spot on and makes for one of Disney's most interesting and fun villains.



33rd Meghara (Hercules) = 14 Points

Another Disney Princess to feature in this countdown, but Meg from 'Hercules' is not the typical damsel in distress whose snarky and funny that generally makes her feel like a real person and in fact she is highly underrated and should on the official Disney Princess list, she has definitely more than earned a position.



=32nd Vanellope Von Schweetz (Wreck It Ralph) = 15 Points

The first of 2 characters from 'Wreck It Ralph' to feature in this list, the loveable little girl from yet another amazing Disney classic, her friendship with the title character is one of the film's many highlights and she is just so loveable, cute and you really feel for her when we are first introduced to her, she is incredibly likeable and she definitely stands out amongst the many characters in 'WIR'.



=32nd Gus Gus (Cinderella) = 15 Points

The loveable and cute mouse from Disney's classic 'Cinderella', just one of the many side characters and definitely stands out in helping Cinderella, that makes him one of the more memorable characters due to the solid amount of screen time he and is mice friends get.
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post Jun 24 2016, 06:26 PM
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=30th The Fairy Godmother (Cinderella) = 16 Points

A Bibbidi Bobbidi Boo, The final Cinderella character to feature here is the ever wonderful Fairy Godmother who despite only appearing in one scene, makes a significant impact on the storyline and Cinderella's eventual outcome. Probably one of Disney's best known and well remembered figures.



=30th Olaf (Frozen) = 16 Points

The first of 3 'Frozen' characters to feature here and dropping first is the loveable 'Olaf' a snowman brought to life thanks to Elsa's magic and quickly provides the comic relief, those characters are usually hit or miss, but thankfully 'Olaf' quickly melts your heart thanks to the energetic voice work by Josh Gad.



=28th Alice (Alice In Wonderland) = 17 Points

The most popular character in Alice In Wonderland according to Buzzjack is simply Alice herself, which is quite a surprise considering the amount of colourful characters that feature in it. Alice herself the main protagonist is a sensible girl who has a strong sense that her environment is comprised of clear, logical, and consistent rules and features. Also brave and intelligent that makes for a decent main lead.



=28th Rapunzel (Tangled) = 17 Points

The only 'Tangled' character to feature here is Rapunzel herself, a lively spirited personality with charm and quirkiness that makes for a great Disney Princess whose self reliant and doesn't always have to be saved and not the typical damsel in distress. She definitely feels more human than the typical princess and makes for a fantastic role model, and also she is the first computer animated Disney Princess.



=28th Captain Hook (Peter Pan) = 17 Points

The ever hilarious 'Captain Hook' a vain coward and a far more comical take on the character than any other version, but it simply works here and makes for a well and truly memorable character, especially his inter actions with Smee and the Crocodile which are comedy gold.
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55. Make Mine Music //Avg.3.625

Highest Scores: 5.5 (SamJudd), Lowest Scores: 1 (HausofKubrick)

No surprise here really, in this bottom 5 we already lose 4 of the 6 package films and dropping out first is 'Make Mine Music', which didn't gain many scores, the scores it did gain were no higher than a 5. Coming during a time in the 1940's where Disney animators were divided between the army and making propaganda films, which is basically just a bunch of animated shorts mashed together without much of a narration, and this is the worst offender of the bunch, so no wonder it came dead last. Although there is some nice animation here and the most memorable story here is "The Whale Who Wanted To Sing At The Met", but other than that, there isn't anything that special going on here.





54. Fun & Fancy Free //Avg. 4.166

Highest Scores: 6: (Joe), Lowest Scores: 3: (Alex, HausofKubrick)

Again another package film 'Fun & Fancy Free', another one that didn't gain many scores, but is better than 'MMM', this one has just 2 segments, one called 'Bongo', which is about a circus bear who escapes captivity and falls in love, and the 2nd story which is probably the most remembered ''Mickey & The Beanstalk', which features Mickey Mouse doing his take on the old fairytale 'Jack and the Beanstalk'.





53. Melody Time //Avg.4.214

Highest Scores: 7: (bartsimpson), Lowest Scores: 1: (HausofKubrick)

Yet another package film that again features a collection of short stories that lacks logic and slapped together without any thought. There are some positives about this one though, it does feature the well known American story "The Legend Of Johnny Appleseed", which is quite interesting and does have a nice blend of colours and animation. Then there are 2 other shorts that I don't really remember, but as a whole this collection is just ok. Again this didn't gain hardly any high scores apart from the one 7, the rest were 5 or under.





52. Saludos Amigos // Avg.4.357

Highest Scores: 9.5: (Ultraviolence1989), Lowest Rates: 1: (HausofKubrick)

Yes as you can see this is yet another Disney package film, 'Sauldos Amigos' which was actually the first of the 6 movies from this troubled era of Disney, this one does feature a familiar face in Donald Duck where he travels to South America and learns how to Samba, which was kinda fun. This features 4 animated shorts that are more of an educational movie, than a fun Disney movie.





51. Fantasia 2000 // Avg. 4.5

Highest Scores: 8: (Chez Wombat), Lowest Scores: -1: (Beatrix Kiddo)

Finally something than a package film, 'Fantasia 2000', released just after the Disney Renaissance and the follow up the 1940 original. Only this one isn't as fondly remembered or as loved. Originally Walt Disney himself wanted to make a slew of these films, but that didn't happen and so the studio decided to wait until the turn of the century to follow it up. Although it is a nice idea as this does feature new segments and beautiful animation, but on the whole it offers nothing new, just style over substance that are introduced by celebrity cameos, which was totally pointless as was this movie.




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=25th Donald Duck (Saludos Amigos, The Three Caballeros, Fun & Fancy Free, Melody Time & Fantasia 2000) = 18 Points

Scoring more points than his famous friend 'Mickey' is none other than 'Donald Duck' whose probably as equally famous as Mickey and equally as iconic. Created in 1934 and to date has appeared in over 150 movies, and out of the 55 official Disney animated classics has appeared in 5 which is the most than any other Disney character to date. He is well known for his short temperature and positive outlook on life.



=25th The Evil Queen (Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs) = 18 Points

Known simply as 'The Evil Queen', here we have the first ever Disney villain, cold cruel and extremely vain, and wants nothing more than to be the fairest in the land, even willing to kill Snow White in the process. Striking in design and frightening when she transforms into the old hag. A very interesting character who well and truly leaves a lasting impression on you forever.



=25th Aurora (Sleeping Beauty) = 18 Points

Princess Aurora the title character from the wonderful 'Sleeping Beauty', established for her beauty and fashion, but often noted for not having much involvement in her own story which is the common complaint, well DUH the story is called 'Sleeping Beauty' what do you expect. She was the 3rd ever Disney Princess and scores pretty big points here.



=25th Mrs Potts (Beauty and the Beast) = 18 Points

The 3rd out of 4 characters from 'Beauty and the Beast', the wonderful and kind Mrs Potts whose scored points by 3 voters, voiced by the equally talented and wonderful Angela Lansbury. Intelligent, level headed and the most reliant character in the movie who was just like the other staff members turned into an household object, in her case a teapot. Definitely one the best characters from that movie and even sings the theme song, which is a magical moment in the movie itself.



=25th Bagheera (The Jungle Book) = 18 Points

Bagheera wise and intelligent while also being stern and caring as he guides Mowgli to the man village and has looked out for him is entire life. A great character who well deserving a place on this countdown.


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50. Meet The Robinsons // Avg.4.541

Highest Scores: 7.5/7: (Jimmy Jam, Chez Wombat, Mike Sugafan), Lowest Scores: -1: (Ultraviolence1989)

At #50 we have the not so popular 'Meet The Robinsons', where despite 3 ok scores of 7, the rest were mainly low scores of under 5. It does however include some interesting themes with a detailed depiction of the world in the future of '2037' and has a likeable main character in Lewis a young inventor left at an orphanage, and Wilbur Robinson who arrives from the future and introduces him to his eccentric family. But it's often overstuffed with way too many characters thrown at us that apart from their personality traits and quirks we are not given enough time to know them, and plus there's that pointless dinosaur attack that feels tacked on. This came at a time when Disney were still struggling with a string of critical and box office disappointments during the 00's and this didn't do much to change that, despite doing okay business with $169 Million worldwide box office gross. Not a completely terrible mess, it just doesn't stand as being all that memorable.




49. Dinosaur // Avg.4.571

Highest Scores: 8.5: (Ultraviolence1989, Qween), Lowest Scores: -1: (Jimmy Jam, Cameron)

Another post renaissance era Disney, in fact all the ones in this selection are from that troubling time period, which isn't a good sign. 'Dinosaur' which boasts an interesting concept of computer animated dinosaurs against a live action landscape, which back in 2000 seemed breathtaking, but 16 years on and the advancements of technology, it just looks kinda stale and dated now. The story isn't bad though and does take some interesting routes, but they cocked up so badly by having the dinosaurs talk, which was seen as a rip off from 'The Land Before Time', and if they just stuck with the original idea of not having them talk, then this could have been so much more special and original. While there are some stunning sequences, on the whole however this just feels kinda bland and not very entertaining.





48. Home On The Range // Avg.4.708

Highest Scores: 10: (Jimmy Jam, Ultraviolence1989), Lowest Scores: -1: (Harry Ezra)

At #48 we have the truly awful 'Home On The Range', one of Disney's biggest flops and highly considered to be one of their worst. Despite decent voice talent from the likes of Roseanne Barr, Judi Dench and Jennifer Tilley, this should have been a hell of a lot of fun, but sadly it wasn't, the humour was just way too childish and tone was all over the place and a complete mess, if there was an emotional punch to it, then it's completely lost amongst the pointless slapstick. This is one of the ones more geared towards small children, I know all Disney animation is supposed to, but in this case there's nothing entertaining for anyone older and while the animation is decent, it's just not up to Disney's standards with it's stale colour palette, no wonder they struggled during this era with stuff like this, it did seem that Disney had totally lost the magic by this point.





47. Atlantis: The Lost Empire // Avg.5.156

Highest Scores: 8: (Beatrix Kiddo, Qween), Lowest Scores: -1: (Chez Wombat, Harry Ezra)

At #47 we have Disney's first attempt at Sci-Fi 'Atlantis: The Lost Empire', which actually despite it's amount of low scores is not that bad. Visually it's stunning and you can tell a lot of detail and thought was put into it. We do have a decent and strong protagonist in Milo and it is a fun adventure, but does come with flaws, like the story while interesting does fall rather flat at times, and does come off as all style and no substance, with weak character development from most of the cast apart from Milo and a boring villain. The land of Atlantis itself was breathtaking and there are some impressive action scenes that hold up pretty well today, but I can see the flaws that everybody else sees that prevents this from being a true Disney classic.





46. Chicken Little // Avg.5.323

Highest Scores: 10: (Harry Ezra), Lowest Scores: -1/0: (Regina, Chez Wombat, Beatrix Kiddo)

At #46 we have Disney's very first fully computer animated feature 'Chicken Little'. Coming off the box office disappointments of their last 3 traditional animated features, it was decided that computer animation was the way to go, after Pixar had been creaming them for the last couple of years, and this was their first effort. While at the time it didn't look too bad, nothing special, these days however it looks rather dated and as for the movie itself, well I have to say it's just simply awful, never have I seen something so mean spirted and ugly in all my life and this is supposed to be Disney. It's not just the tone it's the whole plot as well, nothing is really fully developed with simply too much going on and just comes across as unfocused and the main action at the end was just underdeveloped, as well as the characters who were just horrible, apart from Chicken Little himself and Abby and the way they are treated throughout is just terrible. Just didn't like this one and struggled to find anything positive about it.




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=20th Yzma (The Emperor's New Groove) = 19 Points

Kicking off the top 20 is the wonderfully outlandish Yzma from 'The Emperor's New Groove', one of only 2 characters from that movie to feature here and are both the villains, which is quite odd. But they do steal the show, especially Yzma whose clearly the highlight of the movie with her over the top design, eccentric and evil personality and she's just a delight to watch, especially in her interactions with her assistant Kronk, the pair clearly steal the show.



=20th Genie (Aladdin) = 19 Points

Here we have the wonderful Genie character voiced by the late Robin Williams, and honestly thought he would have been a lot higher on here, but oh well. Featured in one of Disney's (and my personal favourite) 'Aladdin'. He is a big part of the movie and instantly makes you smile with his over the top persona, many quips and he's easily the most memorable part of that movie. Due to the overwhelming response to him, he has been often imitated countless times through the years, and thanks to the big star casting. it lead the way for other big stars to do voice work in other animated features through the years, which just goes to show the lasting impact of the comedy legend Robin Williams has had on us through the years.



=20th Merryweather (Sleeping Beauty) = 19 Points

The 2nd most popular 'Sleeping Beauty' character here, I think we all know whose gonna be the most popular on here, but more on that later. Here we have 'Merryweather' whose one of the 3 fairy godmothers to Aurora, who appear to present gifts to her as well as becoming her guardians. 'Merryweather' is the youngest and shortest of the 3 and is definitely the most memorable out of the 3 who stands up to the wicked witch and is known her short temper, but has a kind heart and will do anything to protect the princess.

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45. The Three Caballeros // Avg.5.357

Highest Scores: 10: (Ultraviolence1989), Lowest Scores: 1: (HausofKubrick, Kylie Jackson)

We lose the final 2 of the package films in this section, and at #45 is 'The Three Caballeros", which was the only one of these movies to score a 10. Often cited as a follow up to 'Saludos Amigos', and in contrast to those other ones, the narrative here actually works: It's Donald Duck's birthday, and each of the gifts he receives, inspires a different seqment which is actually pretty inventive, but again like all the others during this troubled era, they're nowhere near up to the standards that Disney are known for, and I'd say only watch it, if you wanted to see all the animated features from 1 to 55, but otherwise skip it.





44. The Adventures Of Ichabod & Mr Toad // Avg. 5.666

Highest Scores: 9: (Ultraviolence1989), Lowest Scores; 3: (HausofKubrick)

At #44 is the last of package films to feature here is 'The Adventures Of Ichabod and Mr Toad', which is definitely the best out of the 6 films and this one features just 2 stories, 'The Wind In The Willows' & 'The Legend Of Sleepy Hollow', and while neither have any connection to each other, they're both really good stories, the first one has more of a lighthearted tone and the latter is a straightforward horror story with Ichabod getting chased by 'The Headless Horseman' which was well and truly scary and easily makes this story the most memorable of the 2, and you can also see that the animation was starting to improve at this point and after this Disney would be well and truly back on track.





43. The Sword In The Stone // Avg. 5.666

Highest Scores: 8: (AaronTM), Lowest Scores: 3/3.5 (Beatrix Kiddo, HausofKubrick, Kylie Jackson)

At #42 is 'The Sword In The Stone', which is the first of the Silver Age classics to drop here, and despite having the same average as 'TAOIAMT', this is higher due to it having more rates and therefore gaining a higher score. There have been many, many takes on the King Arthur/Merlin legends through the years and while they mainly focus on sword fights and etc, this one focuses more on the relationship of young Arthur and Merlin and while it is an interesting idea, but in this it tends to lack focus, with the main characters turning into various animals and the main theme of the sword in the stone only played a small part in this film and was just thrown in at the end without much thought, and seemed like it was just a quick way to end the movie. Although this movie wasn't all bad and did boast some fun moments, like Merlin's battle with Madam Mim which was highly enjoyable and Merlin himseld was a wonderfully quirky character and while this may not be one of Disney's best, it is an okay effort.





42. Treasure Planet // Avg. 5.875

Highest Scores: 8.5: (Qween), Lowest Scores: 2: (Beatrix Kiddo)

At #42 is 'Treasure Planet' which has a very interesting concept of taking the classic story 'Treasure Island' and setting it in outerspace and mixing the old with modern times is something quite unique, but not fully realized and the whole concept often gets muddled and just leaves you feeling confused. However I do like the fact that they used traditional 2D animation, against 3D computer generated backgrounds, which is simply beautiful to look at, and the movie does work best when it remains grounded and focuses on it's characters like for instance the relationship between Jim Hawkins and John Silver, where they do have a strong and powerful bond, but it's when they set off into space is where the story loses it's focus and instead gets too caught up in it's visuals and loses focus.





41. Oliver & Company // Avg. 5.909

Highest Scores: 9: (Jimmy Jam), Lowest Scores: 2: (HausofKubrick)

At #41 and just missing the top 40 is 'Oliver & Company', which is the first of the Dark Age Disney movies to feature here and takes a familiar story of 'Oliver Twist' and changes it to talking animals and updates the setting to modern times, which is something quite refreshing and Disney has done this many times throughout the years. But honestly I find the idea more interesting than the movie itself, while not terrible it's just uninspired with a weak story and while the voice acting is top notch especially Bette Midler and Billy Joel, I just felt the character of Fagan really bland and there's no real tension going on throughout. The musical numbers were also fun, but totally forgettable and the animation wasn't Disney's usual best with too many stale colours, so in all the movie does have some decent moments, just tends to drag in sections that prevents this from being enjoyable, well that's just my opinion.



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