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Rule the World vs Patience.
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post Jun 28 2016, 08:26 PM
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I think many of us will agree Patience and Rule the World are 2 of Take That's finest pieces of work. I believe both songs are excellent and both were huge hits for them. Which song do you prefer and please add some discussion when selecting the song you voted for.
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post Jun 28 2016, 08:38 PM
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Rule The World.

I love Patience an awful lot as well but to me Rule The World is a really stunning epic and well within my all-time top 20. It's so grand and sweeping and you can tell it comes from a film soundtrack as it's such a moment. It's been overplayed to death of course, which is why nowadays I usually listen to the live version from The Circus Live instead, the final couple of minutes of that are just incredible.

I'm forever gutted it came out the same week as Bleeding Love, another modern classic and excellent track but this so deserved to be a #1 single. I also love how you can clearly hear the contrast of Gary's lead vocal and Mark's lower register backing vocals, while Howard actually gets the 'we can rule the world' refrain to himself <3 Honestly, to me it's one of the greatest songs any British act has EVER produced.


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post Jun 28 2016, 09:13 PM
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An almost impossible choice. Both songs are wonderful in their own right and I would award both 10. If someone twisted my arm I'd go with RTW. The start of the song has a pure and magical quality and the remainder of the song showcases TT harmonies wonderfully. This coupled with the beautiful melody and soaring orchestration is the reason why I've placed it above Patience.

However, if Patience came out on top I wouldn't be disappointed in the slightest. To hear both songs live at Wembley Stadium (Circus Tour) was simply magical. Without doubt two of the best pop singles released by a UK artist in the past 20 years.

Thinking about each song makes me yearn so much for a return to this sound. Roll on Hyde Park smile.gif

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post Jun 28 2016, 10:53 PM
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This is so tough as both are brilliant, i honestly love both songs. I had a phase where i listened to rule the world on a regular basis for about 3 years. I hadnt listened to patience in a while and i am back into it at the moment and am loving it.

I love the live versions of both more than the studio versions. I think both are just classics. Yes i agree about how frustrating it is that rule the world went up against bleeding love as rule the world had huge opening sales but ended up number 2, its a song that so deserved to have been a number 1. It actually annoys me that songs like Sure have been number 1 and this hasnt. The good thing is its now their biggest selling single and i think it has also out sold bleeding love by Leona but i could be wrong on that.

Now, who do i vote for, Rule the world.
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post Jun 29 2016, 01:46 AM
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Both are amazing but i've gone for 'Patience' as that's my favourite ever Take That song! wub.gif Such a strong comeback. The elongated notes in the chorus are so powerful!
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post Jun 29 2016, 03:20 AM
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I go with Patience too - it's better lyrically, in my opinion.
But I do loooove the opening verse of RTW wub.gif
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post Jun 29 2016, 01:23 PM
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Easy choice - RTW
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post Jun 29 2016, 01:49 PM
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I have voted for Rule the World.

Patience, they really couldn't have returned with a better comeback apart from Rule the World. Patience did exactly what it needed to do and catapulted them back into the charts with style. It was such a wonderful choice as a comeback single and is also a good song lyrically.

Patience opened the Beautiful World era with style and Rule the World closed the era with style. Rule the world is a classic ballad that builds and builds and truly resonated with the music buying public. Like others have said it is a huge shame it was released the same week as Leona Lewis Bleeding Love as it truly deserved to go all the way to number 1.

Both these songs with Never Forget are what i call the Ultimate Take That songs.
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post Jun 29 2016, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(milly @ Jun 29 2016, 04:20 AM) *
I go with Patience too - it's better lyrically, in my opinion.


We agree again! magic.gif


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post Jun 30 2016, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(Kath @ Jun 29 2016, 09:43 PM) *
We agree again! magic.gif

What's the world coming to? laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 08:47 AM
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Patience doesn't fully click with me, Rule The World is one of their very best IMO, it's grand.
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post Jun 30 2016, 01:29 PM
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Patience clicked with me when i first heard it and i constantly played it. I had a time where i went off it for a while but then came back to loving it again. That said, i was also the same with Shine. When i first heard Shine i was like this is going to be huge and i was so excited about it and it was a wonderful follow up to Patience, it also showed the success of Patience was no fluke. I feel Patience has stood the test of time much stronger and likewise with songs such as Rule the World, Greatest Day and Said It All.
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post Jun 30 2016, 10:40 PM
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Definitely 'Patience' for me.
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post Jul 1 2016, 08:18 AM
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For me, Patience was the song that made me fall in love with TT all over again, after Back for Good. Maybe that's why I like it just a teeny bit more than RTW. But, for me, liking RTW less is like giving a student 10/A, instead of +10/A+ smile.gif
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post Jul 1 2016, 09:30 AM
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I love Rule The World, but Patience is in my all-time top 20, so it's easily that.
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post Jul 1 2016, 09:35 AM
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I think its wonderful to read the positivity that surrounds both these songs. Many of the Take That releases ( more so the later releases) have such divided opinion but with Rule the World and Patience everyone appears to rate both very highly which is delighful.
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post Jul 1 2016, 01:22 PM
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I have to admit there are a few instances where live performances of RTW make me place it higher than Patience. My all time favorite is the one from Concert for Care: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOp2w-1ef3Q
I know that, within the band, the repeat of that performance is impossible, but, for me, it's the best.
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post Jul 1 2016, 03:53 PM
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Rule the World comes across very strong live and much better than Patience from what i have seen.
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post Jul 1 2016, 07:20 PM
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Overall, I think RTW probably translates better live than Patience, but only by a whisker. Having said that, the live performance of Patience at Wembley (Circus) tour was absolutely stunning. Both of those songs on that tour were unbelievably moving. I've no doubt they will be on the Hyde Park set list. Will be so pleased if they even get close to the Wembley performances.

And Milly, Gary's performance at CFC was indeed fab. I may be wrong but I think it wasn't long after his father passed away.
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post Jul 1 2016, 08:13 PM
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Definitely Patience. The lyrics, the performances, the chart performance...it is the greatest comeback song ever. Without it, who knows how successful TT would have been this time around
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