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HausAlone
post Jul 15 2016, 05:14 PM
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A topic very close to my heart being such a dog lover but one that can be quite hard to debate. Should dogs that have been proven to be dangerous and a threat to people be put down? Not talking about a blanket ban of all dogs of that breed (like some people suggest) but more isolated cases of a dog being violent and aggressive or one that has already attacked. Should owners be prosecuted if their dog is dangerous? Should there be a blanket ban on known dangerous dog breeds?

If you are FOR you believe that "dangerous dogs" SHOULD be put down
If you are AGAINST you believe that "dangerous dogs" SHOULD NOT be put down


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post Jul 15 2016, 05:17 PM
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I have firmly voted AGAINST in both polls. Dangerous dogs should not be put down and nor should known dangerous breeds be banned mainly because i'm under the (perhaps totally naive) viewpoint that no dogs is born dangerous and it is learned behaviour.

We don't "put down" dangerous humans, we try to rehabilitate and train them otherwise, and this is the same here too. Dogs are intelligent creatures and can learn right and wrong with the correct support!
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:18 PM
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No cry.gif

I don't think there's such a thing as dangerous dog breeds personally. That sounda kinda racist to me. I guess dogs found to be "dangerous" should be kept from being around other people though maybe, but I'm not sure taking their lives is the appropriate solution. They are only dogs after all, they shouldn't have to die because they don't meet the same level of intelligence as humans.
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:20 PM
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no way! no such things as bad dogs just bad owners!
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:23 PM
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Against.

This topic is extremely close to my heart too. As some of you may remember, last Summer my mum took in a rescue dog and it didn't work out. He was dangerous and he had to go back to the rescue after he bit my mum's friend after going for her dog. My mum could not cope with him, we had no other choice. It is very likely he was put down though none of us wanted that. We were simply told that he would not be rehomed. My mum and I were in bits because we felt responsible for his fate but my mum could not live that way.
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:23 PM
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The following are currently banned in the UK:

The Pit Bull Terrier

The Japanese Tosa

The Dogo Argentino

The Fila Brasileiro

Obviously you get pitbull crosses, but this is certainly a prosecution case for the OWNER not the dog. I do actually think there should also be stricter legislations for dog owners and background checks done but this would be very difficult to manage! Most dog owners get dogs to love and care for them, it's just a horrible few who breed to fight and attack and there needs to be a crackdown on this sad.gif
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Jul 15 2016, 06:23 PM) *
Against.

This topic is extremely close to my heart too. As some of you may remember, last Summer my mum took in a rescue dog and it didn't work out. He was dangerous and he had to go back to the rescue after he bit my mum's friend after going for her dog. My mum could not cope with him, we had no other choice. It is very likely he was put down though none of us wanted that. We were simply told that he would not be rehomed. My mum and I were in bits because we felt responsible for his fate but my mum could not live that way.

I remember this </3 I can only hope when he went back to the rescue he was given some training and at least looked after there rather than put down :/ were you unable to keep a track of what happened to him??
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:28 PM
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Against to both, its not the dogs that's the fault its the owners imo. There the ones that train them this way and if they put someone than thats their fault.

Dogs are intelligent they can easily tell whats right or wrong if you train them right.

It sucks when i read about dogs being put down due to biting as im a massive dog lover.
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:32 PM
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I am really intrigued to see who has voted for (and then against for BANNING them) as i'm genuinely interested to see the other side of this debate!
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:43 PM
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Dangerous dogs come from dangerous humans.
If a dog is labelled dangerous it should be taken away from its human (if it has one) and taken to a rehab/training centre (I'm sure there must be those kinda places for dogs?). If the dogs have come from a human (eg not a stray) then that human should be punished and never allowed to own an animal again.
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:49 PM
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A dog is only dangerous if you make it. All dogs are born with a neutral kind of attitude as that's what comes with childhood in any species. If the owner teaches it to be gentle and friendly it will do so, it can only be violent if you make it so - dogs are very adaptable animals, they tend to pick up on others' traits easy any emulate them if that person happens to be someone of authority to them.

So no, that's a stupid statement.


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post Jul 15 2016, 05:51 PM
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I watched a film called White Dog once about an attack dog that was trained to murder black people and one woman's attempt to rehabilitate. It's an interesting film to watch if not just for the social allegories but also the themes are quite relevant to this thread!

I voted against,they should be taken away from their owners and rehabilitated, but as has been said, we wouldn't put down dangerous humans, we know there's a chance of rehabilitation for everyone.
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:52 PM
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The two people voting For, we're interested in hearing your opinions. We don't bite x
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(memebury. @ Jul 15 2016, 06:52 PM) *
The two people voting For, we're interested in hearing your opinions. We don't bite x


And neither do dogs unless you train them to magic.gif
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(memebury. @ Jul 15 2016, 06:52 PM) *
The two people voting For, we're interested in hearing your opinions. We don't bite x

Too soon.
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(memedh @ Jul 15 2016, 06:53 PM) *
And neither do dogs unless you train them to magic.gif

oops mess, we do bite, how else would we eat?

(what I meant was we don't bite other posters)
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post Jul 15 2016, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 15 2016, 06:17 PM) *
I have firmly voted AGAINST in both polls. Dangerous dogs should not be put down and nor should known dangerous breeds be banned mainly because i'm under the (perhaps totally naive) viewpoint that no dogs is born dangerous and it is learned behaviour.

We don't "put down" dangerous humans, we try to rehabilitate and train them otherwise, and this is the same here too. Dogs are intelligent creatures and can learn right and wrong with the correct support!
In complete agreement with you. I am also of the viewpoint that it's partly down to the owners/trainers of the dog. My friends got their dog (a staffy) from a shelter about 2 yrs ago and he's a completely different dog, compared to the first time I met him! Yeah, he's still often nervous and snaps if you go for a toy that he's currently playing with and gets protective/nervous for his owners, but if you knew just how much of a change that is for him. He's come a long way in the two years.

It peeves me off that Pitbulls have the shitty reputation and I'm pleased blogs like Buzzfeed and Pitbull owners are defending them. <3
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post Jul 15 2016, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 15 2016, 06:24 PM) *
I remember this </3 I can only hope when he went back to the rescue he was given some training and at least looked after there rather than put down :/ were you unable to keep a track of what happened to him??


That was my hope also. He wasn't a horrible dog, but he needed specialist help my parents couldn't give him. We actually weren't happy with the RSPCA for letting us have him in the first place-they hadn't tested him with other dogs which was when he would go mad. If they had, then he wouldn't have been so quickly homed.

My mum feared what would happen to him and feels guilty even now so I doubt she tried to keep track, it would only have upset her further. She's now got an 11 month old puppy and he's lovely. Naughty, as you'd expect, but not dangerous at all.
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post Jul 15 2016, 06:47 PM
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Yep, in agreement at against for both.

The dog being "dangerous" is the result of being raised wrongly by an awful human, anyone who raised a dog like that I agree should be stopped from owning animals and being able to do it again :/
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post Jul 15 2016, 07:08 PM
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It is the owner's responsibility for the dog. They should be punished if they try anything to make the dog dangerous.

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