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post Jul 19 2016, 08:31 PM
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You all know how much I love a good rate - and also how obsessed I am with the 90s. I know not everyone was around in the 90s but they sure as hell know the classics.

The rules are simple.

Nominate up to 30 tracks of the alternative variety that were released between 1 Jan 1990 and 31 Dec 1999. Re-releases don't count unless they missed the chart the first time around and if the tracks are generally regarded as 90s tracks.

CHANGES MADE BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF TRACKS NOMINATED

Because I probably didn't think this through at the start and have now ended up with hundreds of nominations I think it's better if we vote for our favourite 50 from the nominations list instead of rating everything.

When that's all done and dusted I'll count down the Top 40.

The rules are going to be a bit more relaxed than usual regarding genre. We'll allow alternative dance also (The Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Orbital all in) but the decision on singer-songwriter will be rather strict. Jeff Buckley in. David Gray out. No rap or r'n'b. No pop. In the event of a dispute I will consult with the moderators.

So, please. Start your nominations as and when you see fit. The nominations part will end on Sun 31st July at 23:59.

If you need your memory to be prodded a bit search for the the Shine or Best Album in the World Ever series on Amazon.

Any questions - just shout.


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808 State - Cubik
Air - All I Need
Air – Kelly Watch The Stars
Air - Sexy Boy
Aphex Twin - Analogue Bubblebath I
Aphex Twin - Windowlicker
Apollo 440 – Stop The Rock
Arab Strap - The First Big Weekend
Ash - Girl From Mars
Ash - Kung Fu
Beastie Boys – Sabotage
Beck - Devils Haircut
Beck - Loser
Beck - Sexx Laws
Belle and Sebastian - Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie
Belly - Feed The Tree
Bentley Rhythm Ace - Bentleys Gonna Sort You Out
Beta Band - Dry the Rain
Beth Orton - She Cries Your Name
Beth Orton - Touch Me With Your Love
Big Audio Dynamite II - The Globe 
Bjork - All is Full of Love (Plaid) 
Bjork - Bachelorette
Björk - Human Behaviour
Björk - Hyperballad
Björk - Jóga
Blondie - Maria
Bluetones - Slight Return
Blur - Beetlebum
Blur - Caramel
Blur - Charmless Man
Blur - Coffee and TV
Blur - For Tomorrow
Blur - Song 2
Blur - Tender
Blur - There's No Other Way
Blur - This is a Low
Boards of Canada - Royggbv 
Boo Radleys - Lazarus
Boo Radleys - Wake Up Boo
Bran Van 3000 - Drinking in LA
Breeders - Cannonball
Bush - Everything Zen
Cardigans - My Favourite Game
Carter USM - Sheriff Fatman
Catatonia – Road Rage
Catherine Wheel - Crank
Chapterhouse - Pearl
Charlatans - How High
Charlatans - The Only One I Know
Charlatans - Weirdo
Chemical Brothers - Setting Sun
Chemical Brothers - The Private Psychedelic Reel
Chumbawumba - Tubthumping
Cocteau Twins - Bluebeard
Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas
Cocteau Twins - Iceblink Luck
Concrete Blonde - Joey
Connells - '74-'75
Cornershop - Brimful Of Asha (Norman Cook Mix)
Cranberries - Animal Instinct
Cranberries - Dreams
Cranberries - Zombie
Cud - Rich & Strange
Cure - Friday I'm In Love
Curve - Horror Head
Daisy Chainsaw – Love Your Money
Death In Vegas feat Iggy Pop - Aisha
Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence
Depeche Mode - Home
Depeche Mode - Its No Good
Depeche Mode - Walking In MY Shoes
Divine Comedy - Generation Sex
Divine Comedy – National Express
Dubstar - Not So Manic Now
Eels – Last Stop: This Town
Eels - Mr Es Beautiful Blues
Eels - Novacaine For The Soul
Elastica - Connection
Elastica – Stutter
Electrasy – Morning Afterglow
Electronic - Get The Message
Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)
Embrace - Come Back to What You Know
EMF - Unbelievable
England New Order - World in Motion
Faith No More – Midlife Crisis
Farm - Groovy Train
Fiona Apple - Shadowboxer
Flowered Up - Weekender
Foo Fighters - Everlong
Foo Fighters - Learn To Fly 
Foo Fighters - Monkey Wrench
Garbage - Milk
Garbage - Only Happy When It Rains
Garbage - Push It
Garbage – Stupid Girl
Garbage - Vow
Garbage - You Look So Fine
Gary Clail On-U Sound System - Human Nature
Gay Dad – Joy!
Geneva – Tranquilizer 
Gin Blossoms - Found Out About You
Green Day - Basket Case
Green Day - Brainstew
Green Day - Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)
Green Day - Jaded
Happy Mondays - Kinky Afro
Happy Mondays - Step On
Harvey Danger - Flagpole Sitta
Hole - Celebrity Skin
House of Love - Shine On
Ian Brown - My Star
Idlewild - Little Discourage
Idlewild - When I Argue I See Shapes
Inspiral Carpets - Bitches Brew
Inspiral Carpets - Saturn 5
Inspiral Carpets - This is How it Feels
James - Laid
James - She's a Star
James - Sit Down
Jeff Buckley - Last Goodbye
Jesus Jones - Real Real Real
Justifed Ancients of Mu Mu - It's Grim Up North
KLF - What Time is Love?
Kula Shaker - Govinda
Kula Shaker - Hey Dude
Kula Shaker - Tattva 
Lamb - Górecki
Las - There She Goes
Leftfield - Song Of Life
Leftfield/Halliday - Original
Leftfield/Lydon - Open Up
Levellers-15 Years
Lightning Seeds – Marvellous
Longpigs - On and On
Longpigs - She Said
Lush - Nothing Natural
Manic Street Preachers - 4st 7lb
Manic Street Preachers - A Design For Life
Manic Street Preachers - Die in the Summertime
Manic Street Preachers - Faster
Manic Street Preachers - If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
Manic Street Preachers - Motorcycle Emptiness
Manic Street Preachers - Revol
Manic Street Preachers - She Is Suffering
Mansun - Being a Girl
Massive Attack - Karmacoma
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Massive Attack - Risingson
Massive Attack - Sly
Massive Attack - Teardrop
Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy
Mazzy Star - Fade Into You
McAlmont & Butler - Yes
Menswear – DayDreamer
Mercury Rev - Goddess on a Highway
Metallica - Enter Sandman
Midnight Oil - King Of The Mountain
Mighty Mighty Bosstones – The Impression That I Get
Mock Turtles - Can You Dig It?
Monaco - What Do You Want From Me?
Morrissey - The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get
Muse - Cave
Muse - Muscle Museum
My Bloody Valentine - Only Shallow
My Bloody Valentine - Soon
My Life Story – 12 Reasons Why I Love Her
Ned's Atomic Dustbin - Kill Your Television
Neutral Milk Hotel – Holland, 1945
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Neutral Milk Hotel - Two Headed Boy
New Order - Regret
New Radicals - You Get What You Give
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
Nine Inch Nails - Closer
Nirvana - Heart-Shaped Box
Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
Nivarna - Lithuim 
No Doubt - Spiderwebs
Northside - Shall We Take a Trip?
Oasis - Acquiesce
Oasis - Champenge Supernova
Oasis - Don't Look Back in Anger 
Oasis - Live Forever
Oasis - Some Might Say
Oasis - The Masterplan
Oasis - Whatever
Oasis - Wonderwall 
Ocean Colour Scene - The Circle
Ocean Colour Scene - The Riverboat Song
Offspring - Self Esteem
Orb - Blue Room
Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
Orb – Toxygene
Orbital - Satan
Orbital - The Box
Paris Angels - Perfume
Pearl Jam - Black 
Pearl Jam - Go
Pearl Jam - Jeremy
Peter Murphy - Cuts You Up
Pixies - Planet of Sound
Pixies - Velouria
PJ Harvey - Down by the Water
Placebo - Every You, Every Me
Placebo - Nancy Boy
Placebo - Pure Morning
Placebo - You Dont Care About Us
Portishead - All Mine
Portishead - Glory Box
Portishead - Sour Times
Presidents Of The United States Of America - Peaches
Primal Scream - Come Together
Primal Scream - Loaded
Primal Scream – Movin’ On Up
Primal Scream - Swastika Eyes
Prodigy - Break and Enter 
Prodigy - Breathe 
Prodigy - Everybody in the Place
Prodigy - Firestarter
Prodigy - No Good (Start The Dance)
Prodigy - Smack My Bitch Up
Psychedelic Furs - Until She Comes
Pulp - Babies
Pulp - Common People
Pulp - Disco 2000
Pulp - Do You Remember The First Time?
Pulp - Help the Aged
R.E.M - Everbody Hurts 
R.E.M - Losing My Religion
Radiohead - Climbing Up the Walls
Radiohead - Just
Radiohead - Karma Police
Radiohead - Lucky
Radiohead - No Surprises
Radiohead - Paranoid Android
Radiohead - Street Spirit (Fade Out)
Rage Against The Machine - Bulls On Parade
Rage Against the Machine - Killing In The Name
Railway Children - Every Beat Of The Heart
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Scar Tissue
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Under the Bridge
Reel Big Fish – Sell Out
Republica - Ready To Go
Ride - Leave Them All Behind
Rocket From The Crypt – On A Rope
Saint Etienne - Nothing Can Stop Us
Saint Etienne - Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Saint Etienne - You're In a Bad Way
Screaming Trees - Nearly Lost You
Semisonic - Secret Smile
Senseless Things - Homophobic Asshole
Shed Seven - Chasing Rainbows
Sigur Rós - Svefn-g-englar
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Kiss Them For Me
Skunk Anansie - Charlie Big Potato
Sleeper – Inbetweener
Slowdive - Machine Gun
Slowdive - Souvlaki Space Station
Smashing Pumpkins - 1979
Smashing Pumpkins - Disarm
Smashing Pumpkins - Zero
Sneaker Pimps - Six Underground
Soho - Hippychick
Sonic Youth - Kool Thing
Spacehog - In The Meantime
Spacemen 3 - Big City
Spin Doctors - Two Princes
Spiritualized - Come Together
Stereo MC's - Connected
Stereolab - French Disko
Stereophonics - A Thousand Trees
Stereophonics - Local Boy in the Photograph
Stone Roses - Elephant Stone
Stone Roses - I Wanna Be Adored
Stone Roses - Love Spreads
Stone Roses - Made of Stone
Stone Roses – Waterfall
Stroke 9 – Washin’ and Wonderin’
Suede - Animal Nitrate
Suede - Beautiful Ones
Suede – Filmstar
Suede - Stay Together (Full version)
Suede - The Asphalt World
Suede - We Are The Pigs
Sugar – If I Can’t Change Your Mind
Sugarcubes - Hit
Sultans of Ping FC - Where's Me Jumper?
Sundays - Heres Where The Story Ends
Super Furry Animals - God! Show Me Magic
Super Furry Animals - Hermann Loves Pauline
Super Furry Animals - Ice Hockey Hair
Super Furry Animals - Something For The Weekend
Supergrass - Caught By The Fuzz
Supergrass - Richard III
Suzanne Vega - Book Of Dreams
Talking Heads - Lifetime Piling Up
Tears For Fears - Break It Down Again
Teenage Fanclub – Sparky’s Dream
Teenage Fanclub - Star Sign
Therapy? - Screemager
They Might be Giants - Birdhouse In Your Soul
Third Eye Blind – Semi-Charmed Life
Toad The Wet Sprocket - All I Want
Toadies - Possum Kingdom
Tori Amos - China
Tori Amos - Cornflake Girl
Tori Amos - Cruel
Tori Amos - Spark
Tori Amos - Winter
Travis - Tied to the 90s
Tricky - Black Steel
Tricky - Overcome
U2 - One
U2 - The Fly
Underworld - Born Slippy (NUXX)
Underworld - Pearls Girl
Utah Saints - Something Good
Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
Verve - The Drugs Dont Work
Voice Of The Beehive - Monsters & Angels
Wannadies - You & Me Song
Wedding Present - Brassneck
Weezer - El Scorcho
White Town - Your Woman
Wonder Stuff - The Size of a Cow
X.T.C - The Ballad Of Peter Pumpkinhead


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Well I've given it a shot

Björk - Hyperballad
Blur - For Tomorrow
The Chemical Brothers - Setting Sun
The Cranberries - Dreams
Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)
Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence
Foo Fighters - Everlong
Garbage - Only Happy When It Rains
Green Day - Basket Case
Jeff Buckley - Last Goodbye
Manic Street Preachers - A Design For Life
Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy
Metallica - Enter Sandman
Muse - Muscle Museum
My Bloody Valentine - Only Shallow
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Nine Inch Nails - Closer
Nirvana - Heart-Shaped Box
The Offspring - Self Esteem
Pearl Jam - Jeremy
Portishead - Glory Box
Pulp - Common People
Radiohead - Paranoid Android
Rage Against The Machine - Bulls On Parade
Slowdive - Machine Gun
The Smashing Pumpkins - 1979
Suede - Animal Nitrate
Supergrass - Richard III
Underworld - Born Slippy .NUXX
Weezer - El Scorcho

Will readily replace anything if it is deemed unsuitable happy.gif
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Cocteau Twins - Bluebeard
Cornershop - Brimful Of Asha (Norman Cook Mix)
Embrace - Come Back to What You Know
EMF - Unbelievable
Manic Street Preachers - Faster
Manic Street Preachers - If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
Mansun - Being a Girl
Massive Attack - Teardrop
McAlmont & Butler - Yes
New Order - Regret
Oasis - Live Forever
Ocean Colour Scene - The Circle
Orbital - The Box
Pearl Jam - Go
Pixies - Planet of Sound
Placebo - Every You, Every Me
Portishead - Sour Times
R.E.M - Losing My Religion
Radiohead - Lucky
Radiohead - Street Spirit (Fade Out)
Skunk Anansie - Charlie Big Potato
Smashing Pumpkins - Disarm
Stone Roses - Elephant Stone
The La's - There She Goes
The Prodigy - Firestarter
The Sugarcubes - Hit
The Verve - The Drugs Don't Work
Therapy? - Screemager
They Might be Giants - Birdhouse In Your Soul

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post Jul 20 2016, 08:59 PM
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I realise that 30 songs each is going to a pretty hefty list to rate so if you can only come up with 10 (or whatever) songs that haven't been nominated that's fine.
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Air - All I Need
Björk - Human Behaviour
Björk - Jóga
Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas
Cocteau Twins - Iceblink Luck
Depeche Mode - Home
Depeche Mode - It's No Good
Enigma - Return to Innocence
Faithless - Insomnia
Fiona Apple - Shadowboxer
Garbage - Milk
Garbage - You Look So Fine
Lamb - Górecki
Massive Attack - Risingson
Massive Attack - Sly
Mazzy Star - Fade Into You
PJ Harvey - Down by the Water
Placebo - Pure Morning
Radiohead - Just
Sigur Rós - Svefn-g-englar
The Cranberries - Animal Instinct
The Cranberries - Zombie
The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
Tori Amos - Cruel
Tricky - Black Steel
Tricky - Overcome
Underworld - Pearl's Girl
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mad.gif at Colm forgetting to nominate NOT SO MANIC NOW. I tell you what.. I am bloody MANIC now!!! tongue.gif

Sorry for the utterly predictable choices here -tried to go for some overlooked/forgotten ones tho.

Air “Sexy Boy”
Beck “Loser”
Bentley Rhythm Ace “Bentley's Gonna Sort You Out”
Blur “Beetlebum”
The Charlatans “The Only One I Know”
Dubstar “Not So Manic Now”
Eels “Novacaine For The Soul”
Garbage “Push It”
Harvey Danger “Flagpole Sitta”
The House of Love “Shine On”
Inspiral Carpets “Saturn 5”
James “Sit Down 91”
Manic Street Preachers “Motorcycle Emptiness”
Mercury Rev “Goddess on a Hiway”
The Mock Turtles “Can You Dig It?”
Monaco “What Do You Want From Me?”
New Radicals “You Get What You Give”
Nine Inch Nails “Closer”
Nirvana “Smells Like Teen Spirit”
The Orb “Little Fluffy Clouds”
Primal Scream “Loaded”
Pulp “Do You Remember The First Time?”
Rage Against the Machine “Killing In The Name”
Republica “Ready To Go”
The Stone Roses “I Wanna Be Adored”
The Sundays “Here's Where The Story Ends”
Suede “Stay Together”
Supergrass “Caught By The Fuzz”
U2 “The Fly”
The Verve “Bitter Sweet Symphony”
White Town “Your Woman”

and now Mattias goes and bags the Verve before me... : (


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Beth Orton - She Cries Your Name
Beth Orton - Touch Me With Your Love
Blur - Charmless Man
The Breeders - Cannonball
The Cardigans - My Favourite Game
Curve - Horror Head
Death In Vegas feat Iggy Pop - Aisha
Depeche Mode - World In My Eyes
The Divine Comedy - Generation Sex
Elastica - Connection
Garbage - Vow
Hole - Celebrity Skin
Lush - Nothing Natural
Manic Street Preachers - Revol
Manic Street Preachers - She Is Suffering
Massive Attack - Karmacoma
Muse - Cave
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
The Orb - Blue Room
PJ Harvey - Down By The Water
Primal Scream - Swastika Eyes
Portishead - All Mine
Pulp - Help the Aged
Saint Etienne - Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Kiss Them For Me
Slowdive - Souvlaki Space Station
The Smashing Pumpkins - Zero
Sonic Youth - Kool Thing
Suede - We Are The Pigs
Super Furry Animals - Hermann Loves Pauline


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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Jul 20 2016, 10:20 PM) *
mad.gif at Colm forgetting to nominate NOT SO MANIC NOW. I tell you what.. I am bloody MANIC now!!! tongue.gif

Dubstar “Not So Manic Now”

U2 “The Fly”



I didn't include these because I didn't think they were alternative enough biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mattias @ Jul 20 2016, 10:12 PM) *
Depeche Mode - Home
Depeche Mode - It's No Good


I've edited these into mine Colm happy.gif
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Dubstar is alt isn't it? They were on Shine compilations weren't they?
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QUOTE(dandy* @ Jul 21 2016, 08:35 PM) *
Dubstar is alt isn't it? They were on Shine compilations weren't they?



AREN'T they?

You haven't got all American on us?

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Yes - they are allowed in.

Where do we stand on Tori? I feel she's at least non-mainstream.
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Definitely indie, and if I wasn't restricting myself to 1 per artist I would include the gorgeous “Stars”.

I also raise this all the time but “Not So Manic Now” is actually a cover of the original by Brick Supply (1994) from the Somebody's Intermezzo EP.
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Nomz list in the first post.

I've excluded Enigma and Faithless, Mattias. Soz bbz. Not alternative enough, I don't think.

Jake - Muse Sunburn came out in March 2000.


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QUOTE(Colm @ Jul 22 2016, 03:31 PM) *
I've excluded Enigma and Faithless, Mattias. Soz bbz. Not alternative enough, I don't think.

No problem, I did think maybe Faithless in particular wasn't alternative enough.
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QUOTE(Colm @ Jul 22 2016, 03:31 PM) *
Jake - Muse Sunburn came out in March 2000.


You could have “Uno”, “Cave” or “Muscle Museum” though!
I'd definitely suggest the latter.
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Jul 22 2016, 04:29 PM) *
You could have “Uno”, “Cave” or “Muscle Museum” though!
I'd definitely suggest the latter.



MM is already there.
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QUOTE(Colm @ Jul 22 2016, 03:31 PM) *
Jake - Muse Sunburn came out in March 2000.


Ah, I knew I'd end up nominating something that wasn't eligible without realising... I'll settle for 'Cave' happy.gif
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No idea whether these are okay, but here we go.

Pulp - Disco 2000
Cud - Rich & Strange
The Beautiful South - My Book
Boo Radleys - Wake Up Boo
Kula Shaker - Govinda

Might add a few more later
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The Beautiful South probably wouldn't be alternative enough.
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