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post Jul 21 2016, 07:26 PM
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The Next Time/Bachelor Boy - Cliff Richard & The Shadows (5 weeks)
Please Please Me - The Beatles (5 weeks)
Summer Holiday - Cliff Richard & The Shadows (5 weeks)
How Do You Do It - Gerry & The Pacemakers (2 weeks)
From Me To You - The Beatles (11 weeks)
Twist And Shout - The Beatles (7 weeks)
She Loves You - The Beatles (14 weeks)
I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles (11 weeks) into 1964

Anyone Who Had A Heart - Cilla Black (3 weeks)
Little Children - Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas (1 week)
Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles (9 weeks)
You're My World - Cilla Black (5 weeks)
It's Over - Roy Orbison (1 week)
House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals (1 week)
A Hard Day's Night - The Beatles (9 weeks)
I'm Into Something Good - Herman's Hermits (2 weeks)
Oh Pretty Woman - Roy Orbison (7 weeks)
Baby Love - The Supremes (2 weeks)
I Feel Fine - The Beatles (9 weeks) into 1965


Just to make the point "Drake who?" I've been a bit on the conservative side actually, as many Beatles tracks on albums were also popular, but Twist And Shout and Please Please Me were hugely popular among a young age group - I was 6 and Twist And Shout was everywhere, more famous than some of the singles (It was an EP topping the EP chart). I make it a likely 75 weeks on top of the singles chart in 2 years, and 43 weeks in a row when they were unstoppable.

In the USA, on actual single sales alone they had the whole top 5 in one week, and over 10 in the 100, so throw in album tracks and hypothetical streaming it's not ridiculous to guesstimate around 30 or so Beatles tracks dominating a streaming chart as the USA caught up on their entire career in one whole go.

Just a "what if" exercise to put things in perspective...
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Over 50 years later I'd say ALL of those songs are still well remembered.

Will One Dance have the same effect in 50 years from now? Hmmm. I've heard it about a dozen times and I still couldn't tell you how it goes
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I liked it initially and bought it, the female vocal bit Baby, I like your style is sweet if unremarkable, but the Drake dalek impression just grates on the understated groove.

If anyone wants to pick a hypthetical year and add feel free!

1985?

1998?

All you do is give weight and longer runs to massive hits with youth appeal at the expense of those who were less memorable shorter runs, novelty, or appealing to older age groups, then add in massive album tracks that either weren't released or peaked lower but featured on massive-selling albums....
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2003 in particular would have been a lot different I feel, many classics that year that didn't spent as long as #1 as they would have today (and in the case of 50 Cent and Kevin Lyttle, no weeks at #1 at all!)

Eminem - Lose Yourself (5 weeks) (plus one week it would have spent in 2002 before giving way to Girls Aloud for 2 weeks)
t.A.T.u. - All the Things She Said (6 weeks)
50 Cent - In Da Club (8 weeks)
R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) (8 weeks)
Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love (5 weeks)
Blu Cantrell feat. Sean Paul - Breathe (4 weeks)
The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love? (6 weeks)
Kevin Lyttle - Turn Me On (7 weeks)
The Black Eyed Peas - Shut Up (2 weeks)
Michael Andrews feat. Gary Jules - Mad World (3 weeks)
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QUOTE(danG @ Jul 22 2016, 01:09 PM) *
2003 in particular would have been a lot different I feel, many classics that year that didn't spent as long as #1 as they would have today (and in the case of 50 Cent and Kevin Lyttle, no weeks at #1 at all!)

Eminem - Lose Yourself (5 weeks) (plus one week it would have spent in 2002 before giving way to Girls Aloud for 2 weeks)
t.A.T.u. - All the Things She Said (6 weeks)
50 Cent - In Da Club (8 weeks)
R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) (8 weeks)
Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love (5 weeks)
Blu Cantrell feat. Sean Paul - Breathe (4 weeks)
The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love? (6 weeks)
Kevin Lyttle - Turn Me On (7 weeks)
The Black Eyed Peas - Shut Up (2 weeks)
Michael Andrews feat. Gary Jules - Mad World (3 weeks)


I was mad on the t.A.T.U. and Beyonce tracks so I'd be biased and give them another week each laugh.gif Black Eyed Peas too (Where Is The Love). Breathe is an odd one, Radio 1 refused to playlist it at the time, so it was down to commercial stations and the record-buying public to push it, so I almost wonder if it would have had a longer run on "streaming" were it not for the BEP juggernaut.

Good choices (even if I dont recall the Kevin Lyttle one that well meself - had to youtube it to jog my memory, and I never got the 50 Cent phenomenon) cheer.gif
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I think RSF would have been huge on streams and Bryan Adams reign at numberr one would have been cut short cool.gif

1991

Vanilla Ice Ice Ice Baby 8
KLF - 3 AM Eternal 3
Simpsons - Do The Bartman 6
Chesney Hawkes - The One And Only 7
Cher - Shoop Shoop Song (It's In His Kiss) 3
Color Me Badd - I Wanna Sex You Up 4
Jason Donovan - Any Dream Will Do 1
Bryan Adams - (Everything I Do) I Do It For You 6
Right Said Fred I'm Too Sexy 7
Vic Reeves and The Wonder Stuff - Dizzy 2
Michael Jackson - Black Or White 4
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody / These Are The Days Of Our Lives 2
KLF/Tammy Wynette Justified and Ancient 5


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Obviously any speculation of this requires a number of assumptions but why do we assume that in 2003 every streamer would have trended urban? Just because they're doing that now (and not really to the extent that that list of 2003 #1s shows either) doesn't mean it would have been so back then - and if we are taking it from the songs that are most remembered now as is probably easiest when thinking of lists like this to be fair, that makes the One Dance question of whether all big streaming hits will be truly popular down the line very 'chicken and egg'.

I can see the argument for Bring Me To Life completely losing out to Ignition (even though I'm fairly sure that there would have been a bigger number of rock-trending streamers back then, maybe enough to give it a week somewhere) but from what little I can remember the 4-weeker of Make Luv should have some time at the top, that was (unfortunately) very huge back then and I think it would have trumped 50 Cent for several weeks. Even In Da Club and Turn Me On I find hard to believe would get 8 and 7 weeks at #1 without topping sales once.

And actually given the strength of their current counterparts I wouldn't count out Busted showing up with perhaps Year 3000 for one week.

(my god this topic, I love what if scenarios)
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here's 2003 to 2009 anyway, mostly cos I've got spare time but also to highlight what 2009 probably would have looked like.

2003

Eminem - Lose Yourself (5 weeks)
t.A.T.u. - All the Things She Said (6 weeks)
50 Cent - In Da Club (8 weeks)
R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) (8 weeks)
Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love (5 weeks)
Blu Cantrell feat. Sean Paul - Breathe (4 weeks)
The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love? (6 weeks)
Kevin Lyttle - Turn Me On (7 weeks)
The Black Eyed Peas - Shut Up (2 weeks)
Michael Andrews feat. Gary Jules - Mad World (3 weeks)

2004

Kelis - Milkshake (4 weeks)
Outkast - Hey Ya (4 weeks)
Britney Spears - Toxic (2 weeks)
Usher feat. Lil' Jon & Ludacris - Yeah! (4 weeks)
Eamon - f*** It (I Don't Want You Back) (7 weeks)
Mario Winans feat. P Diddy & Enya - I Don't Wanna Know (4 weeks)
Usher - Burn (3 weeks)
The Streets - Dry Your Eyes (4 weeks)
3 Of A Kind - Babycakes (4 weeks)
Eric Prydz - Call on Me (7 weeks)
Eminem - Just Lose It (4 weeks)
Band Aid 20 - Do They Know It's Christmas (2 weeks)
Kylie Minogue - I Believe In You (3 weeks)

2005

Green Day - Boulevard of Broken Dreams (2 weeks)
Ciara feat. Petey Pablo - Goodies (2 weeks)
Eminem - Like Toy Soldiers (4 weeks)
Nelly feat. Tim McGraw - Over and Over (2 weeks)
Tony Christie feat. Peter Kay - Is This The Way To Amarillo? (2 weeks)
50 Cent feat. Olivia - Candy Shop (3 weeks)
Bodyrockers - I Like The Way (2 weeks)
Akon - Lonely (7 weeks)
2Pac feat. Elton John - Ghetto Gospel (4 weeks)
James Blunt - You're Beautiful (7 weeks)
Pussycat Dolls feat. Busta Rhymes - Don't Cha (9 weeks)
Madonna - Hung Up (6 weeks)
Shayne Ward - That's My Goal (5 weeks)

2006

The Notorious B.I.G - Nasty Girl (6 weeks)
Orson - No Tomorrow (2 weeks)
Ne-Yo - So Sick (1 week)
Gnarls Barkley - Crazy (10 weeks)
Nelly Furtado - Maneater (4 weeks)
Shakira feat. Wyclef Jean - Hips Don't Lie (8 weeks)
Justin Timberlake feat. Timbaland - SexyBack (8 weeks)
Fedde Le Grand - Put Your Hands Up For Detroit (3 weeks)
Akon feat. Eminem - Smack That (8 weeks)

2007

Mika - Grace Kelly (7 weeks)
Gwen Stefani feat. Akon - The Sweet Escape (4 weeks)
Avril Lavigne - Girlfriend (2 weeks)
Timbaland feat. Justin Timberlake & Nelly Furtado - Give It To Me (5 weeks)
Rihanna feat. Jay-Z - Umbrella (10 weeks)
Timbaland feat. Keri Hilson & D.O.E - The Way I Are (3 weeks)
Kanye West - Stronger (3 weeks)
Sean Kingston - Beautiful Girls (3 weeks)
Sugababes - About You Now (4 weeks)
Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love (9 weeks)
Soulja Boy Tell Em' - Crank That (Soulja Boy) (3 weeks)

2008

Basshunter feat. DJ Mental Theo - Now You're Gone (5 weeks)
Duffy - Mercy (4 weeks)
Estelle feat. Kanye West - American Boy (2 weeks)
Flo Rida feat. T-Pain - Low (3 weeks)
Madonna feat. Justin Timberlake - 4 Minutes (4 weeks)
Rihanna - Take A Bow (4 weeks)
Coldplay - Viva La Vida (2 weeks)
Dizzee Rascal feat. Calvin Harris & Chrome - Dance Wiv Me (5 weeks)
Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl (5 weeks)
Kings Of Leon - Sex On Fire (8 weeks)
Beyoncé - If I Were A Boy (4 weeks)
Leona Lewis - Run (2 weeks)
Alexandra Burke - Hallelujah (2 weeks)

2009

Lady GaGa feat. Colby O'Donnis - Just Dance (8 weeks)
Lady GaGa - Poker Face (11 weeks)
The Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow (9 weeks)
The Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling (17 weeks)
The Black Eyed Peas - Meet Me Halfway (4 weeks)
Lady GaGa - Bad Romance (6 weeks)

I'm not even joking with 2009, it was literally DOMINATED by Lady GaGa and The Black Eyed Peas, and you thought Drake this year was bad. Owl City in 2010 would kick Lady GaGa off #1 to finally end a whole year reign of GaGa/BEPs.

And yes there is a lack of X Factor winners but let's just assume Spotify is really dominating here and the X Factor winners didn't benefit from it, except That's My Goal and Hallelujah which were properly big. Also the whole 2009 Xmas #1 campaign would never have happened if Spotify were a thing.
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jul 23 2016, 12:31 PM) *
Obviously any speculation of this requires a number of assumptions but why do we assume that in 2003 every streamer would have trended urban? Just because they're doing that now (and not really to the extent that that list of 2003 #1s shows either) doesn't mean it would have been so back then - and if we are taking it from the songs that are most remembered now as is probably easiest when thinking of lists like this to be fair, that makes the One Dance question of whether all big streaming hits will be truly popular down the line very 'chicken and egg'.

I can see the argument for Bring Me To Life completely losing out to Ignition (even though I'm fairly sure that there would have been a bigger number of rock-trending streamers back then, maybe enough to give it a week somewhere) but from what little I can remember the 4-weeker of Make Luv should have some time at the top, that was (unfortunately) very huge back then and I think it would have trumped 50 Cent for several weeks. Even In Da Club and Turn Me On I find hard to believe would get 8 and 7 weeks at #1 without topping sales once.

And actually given the strength of their current counterparts I wouldn't count out Busted showing up with perhaps Year 3000 for one week.

(my god this topic, I love what if scenarios)

I think urban would have been very popular on streaming back in 2003 especially with HUGE anthems like Ignition, Breathe, In Da Club and Turn Me On.

As for Busted, boybands usually don't get helped by streaming so that wouldn't have been #1 - though I appreciate that song was really big, and would probably have had a top 5 peak and spent a long time in the chart.
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QUOTE(danG @ Jul 23 2016, 12:46 PM) *
I'm not even joking with 2009, it was literally DOMINATED by Lady GaGa and The Black Eyed Peas, and you thought Drake this year was bad. Owl City in 2010 would kick Lady GaGa off #1 to finally end a whole year reign of GaGa/BEPs.


If that had happened, we talk about Drake causing the OCC to change things now but surely that'd put paid to any chance of it continuing, quite incredible there. Good lists for the rest though, I had Grace Kelly and Crazy in mind for huge long runners but I wouldn't have had time to think up everything.
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jul 23 2016, 01:00 PM) *
If that had happened, we talk about Drake causing the OCC to change things now but surely that'd put paid to any chance of it continuing, quite incredible there. Good lists for the rest though, I had Grace Kelly and Crazy in mind for huge long runners but I wouldn't have had time to think up everything.

What other songs would you have be number ones in 2009 then?

I'd say Bonkers and Fight For This Love may have had a good shot at it.

Edit - I mean Sexy Chick not Bonkers (as that was released on Boom's 2nd week)
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QUOTE(danG @ Jul 23 2016, 01:03 PM) *
What other songs would you have be number ones in 2009 then?

I'd say Bonkers and Fight For This Love may have had a good shot at it.


Those two, Bad Boys. Maybe The Fear (for a quick one-weeker, although it could just as easily be one of these long-runners that completely loses). I'd say Sexy Bitch but it's probably too close to I Gotta Feeling's apex to have a chance. Break Your Heart maybe too, that sort of fits with a big streaming hit and could sneak ahead of I Gotta Feeling as that one declines (although granted IGF would probably be the mother of all streaming hits).
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Am I alone thinking in 2004 Eric Prydz or Eamon would have been 10+ weekers? Those songs were huge!

A hypothetical one here from 1979:

Village People - YMCA (6 weeks)
Blondie - Heart of Glass (5 weeks)
Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive (3 weeks)
Art Garfunkel - Bright Eyes (8 weeks) - Yes I think this would have been an even bigger hit - You'd be forgiven as well thinking the song was a Eulogy of the end of the UK as it was #1 the day Maggie got into power.
M - Pop Musik (2 weeks) - This would have reached the summit, especially as it was an unusual track.
Blondie - Sunday Girl (2 weeks)
Tubeway Army - Are Friends Electric (6 weeks)
Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays (4 weeks)
Gary Numan - Cars (5 weeks)
The Police - Message In A Bottle (4 weeks)
Buggles - Video Killed The Radio Star (2 weeks)
Blondie - One Way Or Another (2 weeks)
Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall (8 weeks) - This would have started 1980 off too


1980/1 - John Lennon would have dominated the whole year - "Starting Over" would have had 5 weeks, I reckon he'd have got Christmas #1 with "War Is Over", "Imagine" about 10-12 weeks and "Woman" another 10 weeks maybe even longer?. I even reckon the "Jealous Guy" cover by Roxy Music would have done a long time too. I reckon also in sympathy Yoko Ono would have probably had a week with "Walking On Thin Ice"


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[quote name='MyKindOfLove' date='Jul 23 2016, 03:40 PM' post='5452396']
Am I alone thinking in 2004 Eric Prydz or Eamon would have been 10+ weekers? Those songs were huge!

Lola's Theme by the Shapeshifters would have had a couple of weeks, it was everywhere as was Uniting Nations - Out Of Touch. The last one probably would have jostled with Natasha Bedingfield - Unwritten though and The Weekend by Michael Grey too.

In 2007 there would have been lots of weeks for How To Save a Life by the Fray, Apologise by One Republic/Timbaland and Sweet About Me by Gabriella Cilmi, Real Girl by Mutya and Big Girls Don't Cry by Fergie too (I heard those three a lot on the radio at the time)

Meanwhile for Jennifer Lopez, Love Don't Cost A Thing, Waiting For Tonight, Jenny From The Block and Get Right would have got multiple week number 1s (5 or more weeks at least).

Britney Spears - Oops I Did it Again would have probably got 10 weeks at least at number 1.

I think DanG you are underestimating what Umbrella would have done on streaming, it would have been at least 15 weeks I think.

Oh and Holly Valance - Kiss Kiss and Rachel Stevens - Sweet Dreams My LA Ex would have had lots of weeks at number 1 too.


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1985:

Foreigner - I Want To Know What Love Is (5 weeks)
Elaine Paige and Barbara Dickson - I Know Him So Well (5 weeks)
Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Right Round (5 weeks)
Madonna - Crazy For You (2 weeks) - she'd have achieved it as she was MASSIVE then
USA for Africa - We Are The World (1 week)
Paul Hardcastle - 19 (8 weeks)
The Crowd - You'll Never Walk Alone (2 weeks)
Sister Sledge - Frankie (2 weeks)
Madonna - Into The Groove (9 weeks)
Jennifer Rush - Power of Love (13 weeks) - fits the theme of the year, and this was a massive song
Wham - I'm Your Man (2 weeks) - their fanbase was big
Whitney Houston - Saving All My Love For You (3 weeks)
Shakin Stephens - Merry Christmas Everyone (2 weeks)


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QUOTE(fiesta @ Jul 23 2016, 10:56 AM) *
I think RSF would have been huge on streams and Bryan Adams reign at numberr one would have been cut short cool.gif

1991

Vanilla Ice Ice Ice Baby 8
KLF - 3 AM Eternal 3
Simpsons - Do The Bartman 6
Chesney Hawkes - The One And Only 7
Cher - Shoop Shoop Song (It's In His Kiss) 3
Color Me Badd - I Wanna Sex You Up 4
Jason Donovan - Any Dream Will Do 1
Bryan Adams - (Everything I Do) I Do It For You 6
Right Said Fred I'm Too Sexy 7
Vic Reeves and The Wonder Stuff - Dizzy 2
Michael Jackson - Black Or White 4
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody / These Are The Days Of Our Lives 2
KLF/Tammy Wynette Justified and Ancient 5


love the KLF end-of-year run, pretty sure that's accurate, Bo Rap was more charity based tribute to Freddie than actual song popularity - I bought Bo Rap in 1975 and played it to death, so that's when it probably would have had a longer run (sadly for Abba), while in 1991 it was all KLF for me (not that I was young then, but I still had teenage tastes. Some say I still do laugh.gif )
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jul 23 2016, 01:07 PM) *
Those two, Bad Boys. Maybe The Fear (for a quick one-weeker, although it could just as easily be one of these long-runners that completely loses). I'd say Sexy Bitch but it's probably too close to I Gotta Feeling's apex to have a chance. Break Your Heart maybe too, that sort of fits with a big streaming hit and could sneak ahead of I Gotta Feeling as that one declines (although granted IGF would probably be the mother of all streaming hits).


I think that's right about IGF - I was clubbing regularly back then and it just didn't stop, steamrolling every other record into oblivion for months, it just got such a huge party reaction no matter what.

These are all great lists!
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Jul 23 2016, 08:40 PM) *
I think that's right about IGF - I was clubbing regularly back then and it just didn't stop, steamrolling every other record into oblivion for months, it just got such a huge party reaction no matter what.

These are all great lists!


I Gotta Feeling could have reclimbed as high as #2 in the New Year of 2010 - it was still massive at the time and soundtracked every new year party. I remember the club DJs would "tease" the song by playing the opening few seconds before going into something else - you'd hear it at least twice a night! Florence's 'You Got The Love' could have joined it at #3 with Bad Romance supreme at #1.

See also We Found Love for New Years 2012.
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Thought I'd try a challenge and give 1999 a go, a year of virtually a new #1 every week in the fast-moving charts at the time, but I've condensed it down to (a probably controversial) seventeen:

Steps - Heartbeat/Tragedy (7 weeks)
Britney Spears - Baby One More Time (5 weeks)
Mr Oizo - Flat Beat (3 weeks)
TLC - No Scrubs (3 weeks)
Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way (2 weeks)
Shanks & Bigfoot - Sweet Like Chocolate (3 weeks)
S Club 7 - Bring It All Back (1 week)
Vengaboys - Boom Boom Boom Boom (1 week)
ATB - 9pm (Til I Come) (2 weeks)
Ricky Martin - Livin' La Vida Loca (4 weeks)
Alice Deejay - Better Off Alone (3 weeks)
Lou Bega - Mambo No. 5 (3 weeks)
Eiffel 65 - Blue (Da Ba Dee) (3 weeks)
Christina Aguilera - Genie In A Bottle (3 weeks)
Five - Keep On Movin' (2 weeks)
Robbie Williams - She's The One/It's Only Us (3 weeks)
Artful Dodger - Re-Rewind The Crowd Say Bo Selecta (7 weeks) Christmas Number One

...and I can't see anything tackling The Dodger until Britney's Born To Make You Happy in early 2000.

The bit I'm most unsure about is those two one-weekers in the summer from S Club and the Vengaboys, one week each seems too low for the streaming era but both seemed huge at the time and I can imagine ten-year-old me playing them to death had Spotify existed - otherwise it's two extra weeks for Sweet Like Chocolate. And really it has to be Re-Rewind for Xmas #1 surely, an astonishing last #1 of the millennium although I'd have preferred Adagio for Strings.

TLC and Alice Deejay are the two additions that would have both been #1 with ease I think, incredible chart performances for the time.
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Yeah TLC was huge in the States, I think it was under-stated in the UK charts compared to popularity, and sadly Steps were just massive so I think a long run would have been inevitable laugh.gif

For the same reason wouldn't have been surprised to see fab Britney have a longer run at Oizo's xpense, that one annoyed a lot of folk (older ones at least laugh.gif ) Ricky & Eiffel are prob the best-remembered these days.

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