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post Nov 5 2016, 02:07 PM
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A current trend I've picked up on this year more do than previous years is that many songs from all genres, including pop, are quite explicit in their lyrical content. It seems to be the norm these days to hear a song with swearing in, and nobody seems to think any differently to it but accepts it as being that way.

Do you think if a song is explicit in nature it has a better chance of getting noticed and then subsequently doing well in the charts?

Bear in mind too that a lot of listeners are perhaps young children and therefore more impressionable. What effect could that have on them and their music tastes etc

I'm neither for or against it I just want you to know, but I'd be interested to hear the general viewpoints of the forum and what you've picked up on from seeing how the music scene is constantly evolving.

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Does it matter to you when a song has the "Explicit Content" logo on it?
Does it make you want to listen to the song more or less?
Do you choose to listen to the "clean" version instead?
Would you be comfortable playing the music in the presence of others, including children?
Should any changes be implemented?


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post Nov 5 2016, 02:12 PM
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Does it matter to you when a song has the "Explicit Content" logo on it? No
Does it make you want to listen to the song more or less? More
Do you choose to listen to the "clean" version instead? Very rarely- I can only think of two songs off the top of my head that I listen to the clean version over the explicit version (Stooshe- Love Me & Lloyd- Dedication To My Ex)
Would you be comfortable playing the music in the presence of others, including children? If in front of younger children, I'd try and find a clean version or just play a different song!
Should any changes be implemented? No
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:12 PM
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I don't listen to songs with explicit content, even if I really like them (of course, unless I don't know the lyrics are there). I guess, as long as there is a radio edit available to buy and stream, there isn't a massive problem, but if there isn't I'll probably just forget about the song.
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:20 PM
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There's been a few songs with very sexualised lyrics in chart hits I've noticed recently ('Sexual', 'Sex', 'Starving') but I don't have a problem with it and it doesn't feel like only the explicit songs get in the charts (the current UK top 2 are very lyrically 'safe' anyway).
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:31 PM
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I honestly don't see why people have an issue with it or why the UK radio insists on radio edits. Around here that's not the case at all
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:33 PM
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What's the problem? It's just a word, it's not like we don't all say them anyway
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:36 PM
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It sort of depends on the type of music and the frequency of use, in some genres (smooth jazz or something) it'd just be jarring and in some songs it's just unnecessary and seems to only be there because the artist can't find more interesting lyrics but in heavier music for example a well placed explicit word or two can be really effective and convey all the right emotions. That said I really respect artists that don't swear in their lyrics as a rule, not that I think any less of ones that do but it's nice sometimes to listen to something that's totally clean.

Does it matter to you when a song has the "Explicit Content" logo on it? Not usually.
Does it make you want to listen to the song more or less? Doesn't make a difference
Do you choose to listen to the "clean" version instead? Rarely, I'd rather hear it as it was originally written.
Would you be comfortable playing the music in the presence of others, including children? I wouldn't play music with explicit lyrics in front of children if I could help it (depends on how obvious and how frequent) and I'd be very selective in front of my parents for example too, but I take into consideration the sound more than the lyrics usually.
Should any changes be implemented? I don't see why.
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:37 PM
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Does it matter to you when a song has the "Explicit Content" logo on it? Nope
Does it make you want to listen to the song more or less? No impact
Do you choose to listen to the "clean" version instead? Occasionally yes, but most of the time no (I preferred the clean edits of Avril's Here's to Never Growing Up and Rock N Roll for example)
Would you be comfortable playing the music in the presence of others, including children? Nope
Should any changes be implemented? I think censoring can be very OTT, particularly on music channels where even the slightest reference to drinking is censored, the second verse of Rita Ora's How We Do (Party) was absolutely butchered drama.gif I think that should be toned down but otherwise I'd say things are mostly fine as they are, although Radio 1 insisting on playing "Sensual" instead of Sexual is a bit OTT
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:37 PM
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I don't have an issue at all, they're just words laugh.gif I can see why swear words are edited out, but I find it absolutely ridiculous when they edit out "sexual" for "sensual" in the NEIKED song for example :/ And when they edited out "wasted" for "naked" in Wasted by Tiesto. Sometimes it does really kill a song, ruin the flow, and make it off putting to listen to. I don't listen to the radio much at all so I just tend to listen to the "normal" explicit versions and so the clean edits usually feel really weird to me.

Edit: I just remembered yesterday I heard Dua Lipa - Blow Your Mind on the radio in Subway and they deleted the whole "if we don't f*** this whole thing up" line instead of just censoring the one word... That's another example of when censoring is way too much.
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:38 PM
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I guess it's different for me because I go out of my way to avoid using words considered explicit. I also feel really uncomfortable listening to explicit songs, especially when with people who are close to me.
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:40 PM
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It's the inconsistency that annoys me. If they're gonna sensor NEIKED's Sexual then they have to sensor Cheat Codes' Sex, or preferably leave both alone.
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:42 PM
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If you think these hits are offensive I strongly recommend that you listen the #66 hit from Kunt And The Gang which charted on 19th December 2010.
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:51 PM
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I find it very odd myself how the word with arguably the most power to shock is a certain four letter word laugh.gif It wasn't regarded as so offensive in Middle English, I think it was about the 1800s or 1900s that it started to be used offensively. It's just that society has moved on so rapidly, and is doing so all the time, and so many taboos are broken but there's still this one combination of four letters than can really impact and cause shock and disgust, a hell of a lot of the time, just by being uttered. I get why people don't like it don't get me wrong, I just find it somewhat fascinating that it is still the case, and it's probably one of the only words you can say still has that power and is still a wide ranging taboo.
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post Nov 5 2016, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Nov 6 2016, 02:42 AM) *
If you think these hits are offensive I strongly recommend that you listen the #66 hit from Kunt And The Gang which charted on 19th December 2010.


This is a fantastic song on so many levels.
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post Nov 5 2016, 03:18 PM
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I do think using these words in choruses is worse than using them in verses though, it means there's no way of getting around the swearing if you just want to use a clip of the music

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post Nov 5 2016, 03:30 PM
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They can just blank it out like they usually do laugh.gif
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post Nov 5 2016, 03:33 PM
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I think it's ridiculous in this day and age to be that sensitive to swear words.

Swearing in a song has no bearing for me, sometimes it can be an effective emphasis. The one UV mentioned (Dedication To My Ex) is the only one I can think of off the top of my head where the clean version works better for me.

Radio 1's butcherings of 'S&M' and 'If U Seek Amy' were hilarious though.


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post Nov 5 2016, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Liаm @ Nov 5 2016, 03:30 PM) *
They can just blank it out like they usually do laugh.gif


Music on Chart Show TV (available in Travelodges and Center Parcs) and songs played in McDonalds aren't very good at this laugh.gif
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post Nov 5 2016, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(Dobbo @ Nov 5 2016, 02:40 PM) *
It's the inconsistency that annoys me. If they're gonna sensor NEIKED's Sexual then they have to sensor Cheat Codes' Sex, or preferably leave both alone.

I thought they did censor it? (specifically editing out 'I'll eat you like a cannibal', 'f*** for hours' and 'pussy power').
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post Nov 5 2016, 05:17 PM
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I don't particularly mind it but I don't see why it needs to be used so frequently these days. Swear words aren't even used properly anymore and are now used by people who lack a fully developed vocabulary. All of this 'it's only words' crap doesn't help matters at all.
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