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post Jan 11 2017, 02:58 PM
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Either we need a general topic for all of the shit the Trump presidency will inevitably consist of, or we need to talk about the rumours everyone's going wild over right now as it emerges that Trump probably almost certainly has perverted sexual preferences biggrin.gif

And more importantly, shady dealings with the Russians and connections to them involving themselves as a result of this coming out and this is probably one of the biggest scandals a President(-elect) has ever been involved in. What could happen as a result of the fallout from this?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

His Twitter is just amazing reading (through desperation right now - what sort of political leader handles his public voice like that? Comparing the US to Nazi Germany is... well, there's some horrific irony in there)

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post Jan 11 2017, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(Izetta @ Jan 11 2017, 02:58 PM) *
His Twitter is just amazing reading (through desperation right now - what sort of political leader handles his public voice like that? Comparing the US to Nazi Germany is... well, there's some horrific irony in there)


I think the rhetoric from his Twitter account will have to change once he actually is inaugurated.
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post Jan 11 2017, 04:02 PM
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He's going to be the second-most powerful man in the world (depending on what Putin tells him to do) so if he wants to tweet to slag off everyone who criticises him, that would be entirely in character with the experience of his whole life so far. One of my American friends calls him Orange Hitler, so a little bit ironic him frying pan others when he is known to have had Adolph's book on his bedside table for many years to re-read.

My theory is it's Teflon causing the orange-tinting as nothing seems to stick with his Bart Simpson "It wasn't me nobody saw me can't prove anything" denial about things which are on film and plainly true. Habitual liars have problems with reality and re-write everything in their teeeny tiny thicko pea-brain to suit their ego.
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post Jan 11 2017, 07:51 PM
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This is just the beginning people, the corrupt media are being called out one by one. He's even got the BBC's card marked too, take a wild guess on who briefed Trump about the BBC. Oh happy days. dance.gif ~fakenews



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post Jan 11 2017, 10:10 PM
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That is double think.

It is classic propaganda.

He was elected with the help of actual fake news, websites, fake information amd conspiract theories. To deflect, he calls REPUTABLE news agencies fake to doscredit them and have his supporters continue to believe ACTUAL fake news and conspiracies and cite those. Russia wsnted to erode confidence in the system. They succeeded.

I am not the biggest fan of the mainstream media. Hella biased? Yes. Fake? Not quite.
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post Jan 11 2017, 10:19 PM
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I'm getting those bunkers ready
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:33 PM
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Brian Cox retweeted this. The writer was fighting Hitler and ended up getting executed. I think this explains how people like Hitler manage to succeed in their aims....

https://twitter.com/kevverage/status/819469017706627072

It's Trump, it really is.....
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Jan 12 2017, 01:33 PM) *
Brian Cox retweeted this. The writer was fighting Hitler and ended up getting executed. I think this explains how people like Hitler manage to succeed in their aims....

https://twitter.com/kevverage/status/819469017706627072

It's Trump, it really is.....



Which Brian Cox, the professor or the actor? unsure.gif
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post Jan 12 2017, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Jan 12 2017, 01:33 PM) *
Brian Cox retweeted this. The writer was fighting Hitler and ended up getting executed. I think this explains how people like Hitler manage to succeed in their aims....

https://twitter.com/kevverage/status/819469017706627072

It's Trump, it really is.....


Are you actually comparing Trump to Adolf Hitler, bearing in mind Trump was the only leader recently that supported Israel on the UN security council resolution that critiicised Israeli settlements. Man you liberals are DES-PER-ATE, the smearing nonsense does not work, start telling the truth for once.


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post Jan 12 2017, 04:04 PM
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I haven't read the article but I assume it refers to methods and the fact he is a populist demagogue who has eroded faith in the institutions. His supporters then believe his claptrap pver fact, leaving him freewill to do as he likes. Also like these other demagogues he functions outside the norm of international relations, meaninf there is more chance of miscalculation on all sides.
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(🚡🚟🍥-b @ Jan 12 2017, 02:15 PM) *
Which Brian Cox, the professor or the actor? unsure.gif


Prof Brian Cox, who is intelligent and sane and compassionate..bit of a hero!
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QUOTE(PeaceMob @ Jan 12 2017, 03:36 PM) *
Are you actually comparing Trump to Adolf Hitler, bearing in mind Trump was the only leader recently that supported Israel on the UN security council resolution that critiicised Israeli settlements. Man you liberals are DES-PER-ATE, the smearing nonsense does not work, start telling the truth for once.


No, that's not the point at all (though he DOES admire Hitler, fact). Try reading the article rather than jumping to conclusions. The point of the quote is that Evil people like Hitler are easy to fight because they are so obviously evil. The problem they succeed is because there are very very stupid people for whom facts are irrelevant. Nothing anyone says changes their mind on what is a personal belief based on (usually) bigotry. That is Trump and many of his followers.

Suddenly news organisations are peddling fake news of him and his big mate Vlad (Trump claims) - but when he was trying to get Russia to publish emails on Clinton and inviting them to hack her accounts (this is treason, they would contain sensitive USA-security info) and all sorts of malicious lies were being peddled about Clinton (like paedophile) this was fine cos it wasn't "fake news' - even though it clearly was to anyone with half a brain.

Trump is very very stupid. Obama is thoughtful, inspirational and intelligent. From the sublime to the ridiculous. That's why intelligent people are very worried and disturbed by Trump in a way they wouldnt be, for example, by Ronald Reagan - and he had alzheimers!
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(PeaceMob @ Jan 12 2017, 07:36 AM) *
Are you actually comparing Trump to Adolf Hitler, bearing in mind Trump was the only leader recently that supported Israel on the UN security council resolution that critiicised Israeli settlements. Man you liberals are DES-PER-ATE, the smearing nonsense does not work, start telling the truth for once.
Says the one poster not posting receipts

oh and look at that, you're a conservative

try again boo, you're not fooling anyone
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(Queen LeQueefa @ Jan 12 2017, 04:04 PM) *
I haven't read the article but I assume it refers to methods and the fact he is a populist demagogue who has eroded faith in the institutions. His supporters then believe his claptrap pver fact, leaving him freewill to do as he likes. Also like these other demagogues he functions outside the norm of international relations, meaninf there is more chance of miscalculation on all sides.


More of a comment on the nature of people who choose to believe in demagogues against all evidence (and to other, sanity)
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:48 PM
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What are Trump's sexual preferences anything to do with what sort of President he'll be? If he was peed on by prostitutes then so what? Each to their own I say. It's all fuss over nothing.

Watched his press conference yesterday and he was brilliant. He's a real breath of fresh air although he shouldn't be criticising the security services.


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1.) Who in their right mind would want to be peed on? It's unsanitary and just doesn't sound good on paper, let alone out of someone's mouth.
2.) I don't think it's sexual preferences that are the main problem (although the normalization of them and the blatant objectification of women are among them) but the fact that Trump has had more scandals pre-inauguration than most presidents DURING their term is honestly scaring me. Are we moving into a post-apocalyptic dystopia? The dystopia part might be surely right.
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post Jan 12 2017, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(common sense @ Jan 12 2017, 06:48 PM) *
What are Trump's sexual preferences anything to do with what sort of President he'll be? If he was peed on by prostitutes then so what? Each to their own I say. It's all fuss over nothing.

Watched his press conference yesterday and he was brilliant. He's a real breath of fresh air although he shouldn't be criticising the security services.


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QUOTE(Cody Slayberry @ Jan 12 2017, 06:42 PM) *
Says the one poster not posting receipts

oh and look at that, you're a conservative

try again boo, you're not fooling anyone


Good one Sherlock, yes I'm a conservative, you know it really is good for you to hear a different point of view rather than live in your own echo chamber.
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post Jan 12 2017, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(common sense @ Jan 12 2017, 06:48 PM) *
What are Trump's sexual preferences anything to do with what sort of President he'll be? If he was peed on by prostitutes then so what? Each to their own I say. It's all fuss over nothing.

Watched his press conference yesterday and he was brilliant. He's a real breath of fresh air although he shouldn't be criticising the security services.


We obviosuly didn't watch the same conference. He was an arrogant, rabid dick who said nothing of substance about anything. And he's about to be President!

I am not bothered about the prostitute movies one bit, whether they exist or not, don't care and it's not relevant to running a country. I AM extremely bothered by his links to Russia, business and otherwise, and he ahs done nothing to allow him to swear his oath next week "to uphold the constitution" - in fact he will be flouting it from day one by not divesting his own business interests, including shitloads (500m) that he woes to foreign governments.

If you want a conspiracy theory, here;s one: he was about to go mega-bankrupt but got leaned on by someone who holds financial power over him to become a pawn of enemy states. Before yo flip a lid, bear in mind he DID ask Russia to hack US Government files, he HAS said Russia is guilty of hacking during the election, and he refuses point-blank to listen to his own country's legal brains to uphold the US constitution and laws, and lies constantly while sucking the metaphorical cocks of the KKK and other racist organisations.

These are all facts. Not fake news. Not desperate liberal whinging. Facts. I refer you back to the article I posted earlier about followers......
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QUOTE(common sense @ Jan 12 2017, 06:48 PM) *
What are Trump's sexual preferences anything to do with what sort of President he'll be? If he was peed on by prostitutes then so what? Each to their own I say. It's all fuss over nothing.

Watched his press conference yesterday and he was brilliant. He's a real breath of fresh air although he shouldn't be criticising the security services.


It's more the white supremacist desecration of prostitutes peeing on a bed as he knew Obama and Michelle had slept on it. Seriously racist.

It is also more of a comment on Russian interference and the fact they can blackmail a president or could have. This is what should concern people. Focusing on the sex scandal is so very American and so very missing the point.


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