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post Jan 14 2017, 05:10 PM
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Recently, so much dance music that has made the chart has been so minimalistic, even outside of tropical house. Look at Jax Jones' You Don't Know Me. It seems the key to getting a dance hit these days is to just use one layer of instrumentation, a vocal and a beat.

I am guessing that is because minimalistic dance music is perceived to sound more 'futuristic' and 'underground' although I may be wrong. Anyway it seems that since the rise of deep house in 2013, for some reason, minimalistic dance songs have dominated dance music.
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post Jan 14 2017, 05:21 PM
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I think it's because it's seen as "cooler" music than the vibrant, in-your-face dance which many people in the younger generation wouldn't want their friends to know they like? Just a theory, but since the explosion of streaming, the demographic which uses it most like this style of music because it's inoffensive & can be played in pretty much every situation.

To use an example I much prefer say Galantis Love On Me to that Jax Jones song you mention but if I were at a friend's house/pre-drinking I'd be more likely to play the latter on Spotify.
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post Jan 14 2017, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(Dobbo @ Jan 14 2017, 05:21 PM) *
I think it's because it's seen as "cooler" music than the vibrant, in-your-face dance which many people in the younger generation wouldn't want their friends to know they like? Just a theory, but since the explosion of streaming, the demographic which uses it most like this style of music because it's inoffensive & can be played in pretty much every situation.


I think minimal is a backlash against the sort of progressive house based EDM that was popular into the early 2010s, which lots of global pop stars used for production.

I suppose Galantis' 'Love On Me' is an example of one popular maximal dance track recently that has done well in the charts....it is good to see stuff like this because I do find minimal lifeless and dull. 'Tears' by Clean Bandit was another example. I think more vibrant, maximal dance may come back soon, particularly as the minimal sound of tropical house has grown quite tired.



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Its also weird as a lot of pop records like Fifth Harmony's 'That's My Girl', sound a lot more lively than many popular dance records these days, when it used to be the other way round.
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post Jan 14 2017, 07:06 PM
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I think mostly because there was an over saturation of club bangers from 2009-12, people wanted a break from that leading deep/chill/tropical house to step in.
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post Jan 14 2017, 07:21 PM
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And pretty soon there will be another trend that will be so groundbreaking everyone will want to grasp for it

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post Jan 14 2017, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(Danuary @ Jan 14 2017, 07:06 PM) *
I think mostly because there was an over saturation of club bangers from 2009-12, people wanted a break from that leading deep/chill/tropical house to step in.


This tbh.

And club bangers are seen as cheesy right now.

And people want to seem deep in general by liking dance music by going to Tomorrowland and reminiscing about 'dance house is life', 'live life your dance' etc XD and so stay away from cheesy beats and move towards house with awful lyrics.
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post Jan 14 2017, 08:11 PM
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We did have a brief period in mid 2016 where lively dance music looked like it was making a return, we had Tears by Clean Bandit/Louisa Johnson, Cry by Sigma and Take That and Give Me Your Love by Sigala/Nile Rodgers/John Newman, but since then everything has mostly been minimal or chilled, with the exception of 'Love On Me'. I don't want a return to 2009 to 2012 club bangers with global pop stars singing, but things definitely need to become more lively in chart dance music I think.

Most 2002 to 2012 chart dance music was dominated by maximal styles of dance music (maybe with the exception of 2007 and its minimal electro).

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For the next trend I would like a return to the styles of 2002 vocal trance or the lively house music of 2004-6. The latter seems slightly more likely, with Spinnin' Records in particular releasing a lot of lively funky house tunes recently that have been posted on this forum, and Galantis having a lively house hit with 'Love On Me' recently.
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post Jan 14 2017, 10:37 PM
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Tbh I'm ready for cheesy in your face dance music to take off again!
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QUOTE(lewistgreen @ Jan 14 2017, 10:37 PM) *
Tbh I'm ready for cheesy in your face dance music to take off again!


So am I. Its mostly all too cool and serious recently.Doing the 00s dance thread makes me realise how more lively dance music was back then, even some of the really cheesy eurotrance songs I like now, like Styles and Breeze's You're Shining (much better than Heartbeatz imo btw) and I didn't like this sort of thing until recently.



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post Jan 16 2017, 12:16 PM
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It seams to be a part of a current trend in popular music in general. Top hip-hop and r'n'b also tend towards minimalism.
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post Jan 18 2017, 04:10 PM
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I kind of hate the trend of minimalist dance music these days. My favourites were Swedish House Mafia, Alesso, Ingrosso, David Guetta (2006-2013), Calvin Harris. Two of my absolute favouties were Mammoth by Dimitri Vegas, MOGUAI & Like Mike, and We Like To Party by Showtek, both from 2013.
It seems as if 2014 came along, and the drops all changed. And Kygo came along in 2015, and the past two years have mostly been Tropical House (which is fine, in small doses), and disappointing drops.

I really hope the music that was in style 2006-2013 comes back into fashion.
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post Jan 18 2017, 04:33 PM
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I've said this a few times on the forum but PC Music HAS to be the next big dance trend, that would be fab. I prefer stuff like electro house chart wise, like Gecko (Overdrive) for example. It just has more to it. I think tropical house works better as an influence on pop songs, like in Hotter Than Hell or Final Song, than it does as a genre itself.
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post Jan 18 2017, 05:00 PM
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I think PC Music is too much for the UK public to handle at the moment. I mean, if Radio 1 A-Listing couldn't even send 'Broken Flowers' into the official top 100. I just can't see Spotify taking a big risk like putting Hannah Diamond on their playlists when there's plenty of "safe" music out there that'll get lots of streams.
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post Jan 18 2017, 05:13 PM
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Broken Flowers was radio friendly in a way, but it was perhaps too repetitive and a bit 'out there' 12 months ago. Super Natural had all the makings of a hit with the feature and catchy lyrics but no one picked it up properly.
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I always thought of 'Broken Flowers' along the same lines as something like 'Wish You Were Mine' rather than the traditional "PC music". Still bothers me that it did nothing. sad.gif
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post Jan 18 2017, 06:28 PM
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Some PC Music (not Broken Flowers though, that was just a house track) from what I hear is basically like some of the tracks from 00s Eurodance (especially Basshunter - Angel In The Night) without such a heavy beat....so it would great if it could become a trend but Radio 1 wouldn't play it as someone on the dance thread here iirc recently said they didn't play Scooter or Flip and Fill or 2003's Fly On the Wings Of Love cover at the time (and still don't on shows like The Nixtape) as they were (and still are) deemed too cheesy.
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Concerning more lively dance music, John Gibbons' Would I Lie To You held up quite well on streaming later last year iirc for a track that didn't make top 40 officially, which is encouraging.

I think this year we will have a dance hit which defines the trend for years to come it will be like 1999 (Re-Rewind starting the UK Garage trend), 2001 (Castles In the Sky starting the vocal trance trend that would define 2002), 2004 (Lola's Theme and Call on Me leading to disco house and 80s remixes trends respectively), 2006 (Yeah Yeah and Put Your Hands Up For Detroit starting the electro trend) or 2012 (Latch starting the deep house trend). We need a defining song this year that starts a new trend, and I am certainly hoping for a livelier one than either tropical house or future bass.


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QUOTE(DannyAdelante @ Jan 18 2017, 04:10 PM) *
I really hope the music that was in style 2006-2013 comes back into fashion.


Of these years, I really don't like the electro house of late 2006 and 2007...the likes of Yeah Yeah, Perfect (Exceeder) and The Creeps (Get On the Dance Floor) are just emotionless and a bit annoying imo. 2006 was mostly excellent quality-wise for dance in the charts though I think, particularly the first half of the year.

2010's electro wasn't great either, Afrojack ruining an otherwise great song, Take Over Control with a horrible sounding drop and I am not a fan of Riverside (Lets Go) either. Songs from other subgenres were good though - Seek Bromance and Stereo Love wub.gif

2012 was good for the progressive house (Porter Robinson, Otto Knows and Madeon especially)

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I've said this a few times on the forum but PC Music HAS to be the next big dance trend, that would be fab. I prefer stuff like electro house chart wise, like Gecko (Overdrive) for example. It just has more to it. I think tropical house works better as an influence on pop songs, like in Hotter Than Hell or Final Song, than it does as a genre itself.


Final Song I would say was more future bass influenced than tropical house.

Gecko (Overdrive) was great, I preferred Can't Stop Playing (Makes Me High) though as the vocal is more of the classic house vocal type.


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simple is catchy and easy to remember
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