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post Mar 16 2017, 06:08 PM
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Some hits are big, but others are so massive that they inspire entire chart trends. What songs would you say are the biggest examples of these?

recently I'd say;

Omi / Felix Jaehn - Cheerleader [tropical house]
Major Lazer / DJ Snake / MŲ - Lean On [making EDM far more 'pop']
The Chainsmokers / Halsey - Closer [super-commercialised future bass]
Justin Bieber - Sorry / What Do You Mean [tropical pop]
Ed Sheeran - Thinking Out Loud [sappy radio-canon fodder adult contemporary]
The Weeknd - Can't Feel My Face / The Hills [RnB-pop crossover]
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post Mar 16 2017, 06:10 PM
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Desiigner - Panda, mumble rap crossovers, since then we've had Don't Mind from Kent Jones, Bad and Boujee from Migos, iSpy by Kyle and a fair few more.
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post Mar 16 2017, 06:11 PM
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Yeah, I've always considered 'Lean On' a key song in today's music landscape. That's the one I pinpoint for having the eccentric, electronic instrumental in place of a chorus - a trend that got very uninspired very quickly, but I've always thought it worked fabulously on 'Lean On'.
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post Mar 16 2017, 06:14 PM
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Oh and I've always felt that Wish You Were Mine by Phillip George was the trendsetter in terms of having scrambled, pitched vocals as the drop. I thought that sound was so cool at first and still do now.
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post Mar 16 2017, 06:34 PM
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Disclosure - Latch (house started to crossover from this point)
Usher - Yeah!
Justin Timberlake - SexyBack
Major Lazer - Lean On
Sean Paul - Get Busy (the Divali riddim was the sound of summer in 2003, lest not forget Kevin Lyttle too)

feel like there'd be a big Indie song at the start of 2004 that kick-started the trend but I couldn't pinpoint which one. And there'd be a Mustard electronic/R&B one from 2013/14 but again it's hard to pick one...


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post Mar 16 2017, 06:51 PM
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Songs that started incorporating dubstep
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post Mar 16 2017, 06:54 PM
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...Baby One More Time.
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:00 PM
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I'm not sure about 'Can't Feel My Face' when 'Want to Want Me' was released earlier that summer and is practically the same genre. Not saying Jason Derulo started a trend or anything. laugh.gif

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post Mar 16 2017, 07:02 PM
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David Gray was the first proper singer/songwriter that actually sold lots of records (Babylon/White Ladder), before him, singer-songwriters didn't sell a record (i.e. Dylan, Cohen), and he certainly opened the door for James Blunt, Paolo Nutini, James Morrison, and later Ed Sheeran. All labels invested in singer-songwriters after White Ladder, even if a lot of times they were sorta fake ones like James Blunt smile.gif

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post Mar 16 2017, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(ML Hammer95 @ Mar 16 2017, 06:34 PM) *
feel like there'd be a big Indie song at the start of 2004 that kick-started the trend but I couldn't pinpoint which one. And there'd be a Mustard electronic/R&B one from 2013/14 but again it's hard to pick one...


Take Me Out by Franz Ferdinand maybe?

Others:

Cher - Believe (so many vocoders were heard in pop after this...I'm sure Blue (Da Ba Dee) would have been a very different song without Believe existing for example)
Amy Winehouse - Rehab (60s-esque pop was inescapable following the Back To Black album...until about the end of 2008, Duffy/Adele/Gabriella Cilmi et al)
La Roux - In For The Kill (I want to say this kickstarted 2009's huge 80s revival, unless somebody can think of something else that did it?)
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:12 PM
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I also always think three albums that came out at the end of 2002 (and their respective singles) kicked the 00s into gear and steered pop music away from the 90s sound that carried over into 2000-2002 into something with way more edge and attitude. These were: Pink's Missundaztood, Christina Aguilera's Stripped and Justin Timberlake's Justified.
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:15 PM
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Tubeway Army - Are Friends Electric (1979) is a pretty obvious one for synthpop, although arguably it only got truly colossal once Visage - Fade To Grey arrived at the end of 1980.

M/A/R/R/S - Pump Up The Volume kickstarting commercial house in 1987. Not the first house hit (Love Can't Turn Around), or even the first house #1 (Jack Your Body) but the moment the floodgates truly opened for the genre, leading to a few million hit singles with the word "house" in the title during late '87/early '88.

Probably The Prodigy - Charly (1991) for breakbeat rave. Again there'd been others before, but this smashing into the top 10 in late summer ensured the sound dominated the chart for the rest of the year and into '92. Oceanic's 'Insanity' debuted the same chart week at a lower position.

Snap - Rhythm Is A Dancer (1992) as the missing link between early-90s rave and mid-90s Eurodance, commercial dance slowly losing the breakbeats from then on and transitioning to frantic synth riffs and the female singer/male rapper format. Snap obviously had a #1 hit with The Power two years earlier, but that sounded pretty different.

M-Beat feat. General Levy - Incredible (1994) ushering in jungle to the charts, which might not have lasted long in the mainstream but for at least two summers ('94 and '95) was a colossal force.

Robert Miles - Children (1996) bringing in all sorts of 'dream house' copycat records, later transitioning into early trance from the likes of BBE.

Faithless - Insomnia (1996) - not quite a whole new genre, but that distinctive pizzicato string sound it uses being everywhere for the next couple of years, used by Sash, Brainbug etc.

Rosie Gaines - Closer Than Close and Tina Moore- Never Gonna Let You Go (both 1997) bringing speed and 2-step garage to a chart audience, the latter getting truly huge when Shanks & Bigfoot - Sweet Like Chocolate arrived two years later, setting the course for the likes of Craig David and the Artful Dodger to dominate the start of the noughties.

ATB - 9pm (Til I Come) (1999) basically doing for trance what M/A/R/R/S did for house two years earlier, the first truly massive crossover trance hit in its evolved late 1990s form. Also around the peak of Ibiza's popularity for clubbers.

Someone more informed than me can help with the noughties and beyond!
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(Cody Slayberry @ Mar 16 2017, 06:51 PM) *
Songs that started incorporating dubstep

I did a sociology essay about music and culture and read a journal about dubstep going from underground to mainstream and they credited Britney Spears for dabbling on Blackout laugh.gif Although that's not being a chart hit, as none of the singles really did.
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(ML Hammer95 @ Mar 16 2017, 06:34 PM) *
feel like there'd be a big Indie song at the start of 2004 that kick-started the trend but I couldn't pinpoint which one. And there'd be a Mustard electronic/R&B one from 2013/14 but again it's hard to pick one...


First song I associate with noughties indie to chart is The Strokes - Hard To Explain (#16, w/e 07/07/2001), but admittedly that's a good while before the sound truly starts to dominate the charts.

Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out entered at #3 on w/e 24/01/2004, just ahead of the rest of big indie hits that year - I'd go with that I think.
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:25 PM
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Oh, and Adele's Make You Feel My Love/Someone Like You brought piano ballads back to the fore...in 2011 it was basically the only thing on offer besides 'club bangers'.

Cascada's Everytime We Touch and Infernal's From Paris To Berlin in 2006 can be credited with bringing Eurodance back for a short while I suppose too!

And Call On Me by Eric Prydz was responsible for the looped house dance sound/'sexy' videos craze of 2004-6. There were a few before this that did well but this really took it into the next gear.
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 16 2017, 07:20 PM) *
I did a sociology essay about music and culture and read a journal about dubstep going from underground to mainstream and they credited Britney Spears for dabbling on Blackout laugh.gif Although that's not being a chart hit, as none of the singles really did.


Wasn't Hold It Against Me the first big pop single to have a dubstep breakdown? laugh.gif

The year later when it showed up in every Melodifestivalen and Eurovision entry drama.gif
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Trying to trace what started the 'deep house' phase that ran from 2013-2014 (and oh how I miss it next to shite tropical house </3), I think Duke Dumont's Need U (100%) was probably the likeliest one, as much as I dislike it.

Wasn't massively popular itself, but Magnetic Man's I Need Air I think should take credit for VERY briefly bringing dubstep into the mainstream for those two years (of which the likes of Rita Ora/Britney Spears eventually jumped on).
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:27 PM
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I'd have put Firestone down as the trendsetter for tropical house tbh, it feels like the template more so than Cheerleader, although that's still quite a notable one too I guess!
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Mar 16 2017, 07:26 PM) *
Trying to trace what started the 'deep house' phase that ran from 2013-2014 (and oh how I miss it next to shite tropical house </3), I think Duke Dumont's Need U (100%) was probably the likeliest one, as much as I dislike it.


Can we blame Duke for tropical house too though? I Got U came a year before Cheerleader!
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post Mar 16 2017, 07:33 PM
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Definitely Firestone for tropical house.

QUOTE(Liаm @ Mar 16 2017, 07:20 PM) *
I did a sociology essay about music and culture and read a journal about dubstep going from underground to mainstream and they credited Britney Spears for dabbling on Blackout laugh.gif Although that's not being a chart hit, as none of the singles really did.


Nneka - Heartbeat (#20) charted here in its Chase & Status remix in September 2009, which sounds pretty close to dubstep to me if not quite the sound that truly commercially peaked circa 2011.

Magnetic Man had a top 10 hit with I Need Air in August 2010, followed soon after by Katy B's Katy On A Mission which went top 5. Then things went insane the following year with Nero, DJ Fresh, and, erm, Britney...
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