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post Mar 20 2017, 05:00 PM
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"You can use Restricted Mode [on YouTube] to help screen out potentially objectionable content that you may prefer not to see or don't want others in your family to see on YouTube. We use community flagging, age-restrictions, and other signals to identify and filter out potentially inappropriate content. Restricted Mode is available in all languages, but due to potential cultural sensitivities, the quality may vary."

Seems like a good idea right? YouTube can be quite a, um... a platform with all kinds of content. Say you're a parent and your child has been watching really violent game tutorials and you'd rather they didn't as it could influence them negatively, that's a good way to use the restricted mode. It also prevents kids stumbling across sexually explicit material that may be on there etc, except its also classing LGBTQ+ videos within that bracket. Things that are as innocent as a lesbian couple reading their vows to one another has seemingly been hidden in that mode, things that would be PG if it was heterosexual.

Anyway, YouTube released a statement that suggests they're going to rectify that as there's no doubt that filtering LGBTQ+ content is wrong on so many levels when there's such a large amount of people who only really feel safe within that community online etc but it has raised a few questions I thought I'd shoot out here angel.gif

Aside from general phobic attitudes surrounding the community, why do y'all think non-hetero content is deemed more "adult" or "inappropriate"? Why is there's still so little representation in media or if there is it's often negative, even in 2017?? Also online spaces for LGBTQ+ people, why are they seemingly more popular than offline ones, what do you think about the whole restricted mode thing anyway?

I know I personally feel so much more comfortable online as it's so easy to find like-minded people or others in a similar position to myself. Plus you have a bit more anonymity if you want it. I don't think I would be at the point I am without having the internet to go to as I learnt so much about the community just from Tumblr, YouTube etc, even being part of this community helped. I ended up learning more about myself just from being more aware. It gave me somewhere to truly be open about who I am which I haven't really got offline atm. I'll maybe write a bit more on that in a bit, but I'm throwing that out to you as well, what sort of impact has the internet had on you? Is there any other spaces you're part of that's helped? etc
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post Mar 20 2017, 05:07 PM
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It's really upsetting. This shielding of children from the LGBTQ+ community (which isn't just happening here, by the way, I bet in most mainstream primary schools they don't at all touch on non-heterosexuals in PSHE until year 5 even though it's 2017!) is awful and it really does make me feel as though although society is supposedly at a "stage of total acceptance of LGBTQ+ people", we're actually a lot further from total equality than we think we are.

This isn't just wrong socially, but for the next generation of children that'll be running this world in 40 years time it's a really big deal that they know they're normal, and accepted from a young age. Kids are impressionable (though accepting if you teach them right), so by YouTube and other places making out as if LGBT is almost a BAD thing - it's going to leave a bad mark on children who grow up being totally unaware of these things and give them the impression that being gay or bi or whatever is wrong.

Yeah this has really annoyed (and upset, to a certain extent) as it feels as though the LGBTQ+ community is being alienated from society once again.

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EDIT - didn't see the other question at the bottom! The internet means a hell of a lot to me, it's been the source of the majority of my hobbies for a good few years now and I'm not quite sure where I'd be without it laugh.gif It's shaped me as a person and taught me things I'd not have been taught in general society without the internet - so overall it's had a positive impact on me and made me as good of a person as I can be.

(and of course Buzzjack has helped me as a person over the last year or so - since I joined I've had a proper hobby in following the charts more than just via the radio and newspapers, which is cool.)


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post Mar 20 2017, 05:14 PM
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It's a disgrace that things like this are still happening and it's upsetting for an LGBTQ individual like myself. I honestly can't believe that in 2017, people still thing LGBTQ+ love is 'different' from Hetrosexual love and should be treated that way :') The youtube thing reinforces that belief and no doubt there'll be some people championing this LMAO. The Beauty and the Beast scene is another one, why on earth would you ban a film or put it at an adult rating because two people of the same sex happen to kiss?
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post Mar 20 2017, 05:51 PM
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It's so ridiculous, you can turn on primetime TV (say one of the soaps) and see straight couples kissing or in bed or whatever in most episodes so why is ANY minor form of LGBT content "inappropriate". I've also noticed that you can quite easily find some straight content that could be construed as sexual without really even trying, and yet I'm sure gay equivalents would be removed ASAP rolleyes.gif

The thing is if they taught about gay relationships in schools from an early age, I'm sure that young age bracket would be pretty much the least judgmental and just accept it. At 5 or 6 years old, for example, if children were taught that it's ok and normal to be LGBT, it would help so many children who would otherwise spend half their teens worrying that there is something wrong with them and they're not normal because they have a same-sex crush at school or something. If they don't hear about or see same-sex relationships, it's only natural they assume that it's not right, feel ashamed and hide it, when they really shouldn't have to. It's 2017 :/

Having a safe online space when you're not out or partially out is so important too. Buzzjack is a big one as I could make like minded friends on here and realise that a lot of people are like me. It's much easier to sort of test the waters with people you don't face irl, and people you know will have similar interests etc. It made me feel much more comfortable and led to me being able to come out to everyone in real life, knowing that I was accepted on here and people liked me for who I was and didn't really care who I found attractive. Online is the only source of information for so many teens so to restrict them from seeing videos that relate to their minority just shouldn't happen. Without their school helping or informing them, and Youtube blocking stuff, that takes away so much representation. If there's nothing on Youtube and school doesn't include their feelings or orientations, they're going to feel so isolated and confused :/
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post Mar 20 2017, 06:08 PM
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it even blocks lady gaga's BORN THIS WAY

disgusting and utterly ridiculous for today's world. yeah what mdh is saying about children being shielded is true, even in my secondary school I've heard a LGBT group is being prevented being set up
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post Mar 20 2017, 07:06 PM
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In regards to the second question, I'm lucky enough to always have had an accepting group of friends/family but I can relate to being open/more open on online communities about things I wouldn't necessarily in real life
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post Mar 21 2017, 10:53 AM
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I don't think it should be up to websites to decide this, but rather whoever is in charge of the device it is being viewed on (provided they aren't under-age).

If the website has material the law rules illegal though, e.g. child porn, then obviously measures must be taken to prevent distribution.


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post Mar 21 2017, 02:32 PM
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Oh yes I was appalled to hear about this. I saw on Twitter that some of Tegan & Sara's music videos were absent under this mode due to the LGBTQ+ content and they were pretty upset, rightfully. This kind of content is not harmful in the slightest - kids should be taught from the get go that this is normal content, just like how heterosexual music videos for instance are deemed the norm. YouTube have said that 'videos have been incorrectly labelled and that's not right' so it's good that they've at least acknowledged this, it needs to be overturned ASAP as it's gross and upsetting to have work by someone restricted just for LGBTQ+ content that isn't even explicit.

The internet is of course a brilliant platform as a safe space. I have always felt far more comfortable sharing stuff here and connecting with likeminded people. Relating back to the LGBTQ+ thing, when I had my bisexual phase I was absolutely terrified to tell anyone IRL and instead confided in people who could relate on the Internet. So these virtual spaces are so important. As are IRL support groups, one of my close friends at Uni is president of the LGBTQ+ society at our Uni and it seems to be doing her and the members of it a world of good. So yes, up with those too. I think these kind of support groups should be introduced at a younger age than Uni too, perhaps in secondary schools. I understand that they're not for everyone but it seems like a good thing to have as an option.
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:15 PM
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Well good on Youtube for fixing that, now they gotta get their ass into gear for the millions of other issues everyone is having on the site laugh.gif
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post Mar 22 2017, 11:21 PM
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I'm not sure it's fixed yet unfortunately :/
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post Mar 23 2017, 04:28 PM
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post Mar 23 2017, 04:38 PM
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even worse we have this

http://tgslanyon.tumblr.com/post/158685011...ith-the-youtube

i wonder if everyone boycotts youtube will it shut down like the ending of nerve
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post Mar 23 2017, 04:43 PM
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I don't see how they can continue with that, they're alienating a whole massive chunk of their audience :')

That was a really good video Cody, thanks for sharing that!
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post Mar 23 2017, 04:47 PM
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Problem with that it is it's near impossible to get people to boycott YouTube when there aren't any viable alternatives.

Ridiculous that they're trying to censor material that could really help people with mental health issues / LGBT people / controversial topics, YouTube really care more about getting that ad money than actual freedom of speech.
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