BuzzJack
Entertainment Discussion

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register | Help )

Latest Site News
2 Pages V   1 2 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> US Election 2020 thread.
Track this topic - Email this topic - Print this topic - Download this topic - Subscribe to this forum
commonsense
post Mar 23 2017, 08:51 AM
Post #1
BuzzJack Platinum Member
******
Group: Members
Posts: 10,574
Member No.: 53
Joined: 7-March 06
   No Gallery Pics
 


There was a thread just after the 2012 election for the 2016 one so here's a new one for 2020.

Here's a man convinced that Hillary will stand again.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/201...nt-again-214766
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
commonsense
post Mar 23 2017, 09:02 AM
Post #2
BuzzJack Platinum Member
******
Group: Members
Posts: 10,574
Member No.: 53
Joined: 7-March 06
   No Gallery Pics
 


I honestly can't see her putting herself forward again and if she does I doubt she'd get the nomination. She's lost, twice and losers very rarely get a second chance. Could she beat Trump though, assuming he's the incumbent standing again?

Also being mentioned are Caroline Kennedy and Oprah Winfrey though I think the Dems won't risk a woman again next time.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sceryl_Streep
post Mar 23 2017, 09:42 AM
Post #3
Miss Rodham, if you're nasty
*******
Group: Veteran
Posts: 29,279
Member No.: 11,709
Joined: 23-August 10
 


Even if she wanted to (which, lets be honest, anyone with a desire for power who got that close would almost definitely want to try again) she won't. It wouldn't make sense, she's viewed very favourably for having fought ''the good fight'', but running again would be seen as hubris and she'd probably be humiliated by a poor showing in the early primaries and forced to drop out anyway.

I don't think running a female candidate is/was the issue here, it was a change election. Running with some like Elizabeth Warren in 2020 (or 2024) is more than likely going to be a major positive to the campaign, once again.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
danVember
post Mar 23 2017, 10:29 AM
Post #4
Danvīci
*******
Group: Chart Mod
Posts: 43,682
Member No.: 11,746
Joined: 30-August 10
   No Gallery Pics
 


Hillary would rather spare herself the embarrassment of losing the next primary than attempt to run again surely?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
5 Silas Frøkner
post Mar 23 2017, 10:39 AM
Post #5
Surfing in paradise
********
Group: Entertainment Mod
Posts: 61,598
Member No.: 3,474
Joined: 24-May 07
 


Rumour is she's going to be Mayor of New York instead. She's still popular there and because of 9/11 it's one of the few places where the Police Union backed here over the orange c**t.

I doubt she'll run again. I could see her daughter running in 2028/2032 though.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Popchartfreak
post Mar 23 2017, 12:19 PM
Post #6
BuzzJack Platinum Member
******
Group: Moderator
Posts: 10,790
Member No.: 17,376
Joined: 18-July 12
   No Gallery Pics
 


everything depends on whether Trump has been convicted of treason by then. If the Republicans have been found to ignore clear evidence of collusion with the Russians interfering in elections and making deals then the Democrats could run a chipmunk and it will win. Watergate was a walk in the park compared what is being alleged currently. If 24 million lose their healthcare, the Dems will clean up (as many will have been trump supporters, and Dems won the popular vote anyway already).

The iron-clad rule of people going to prison is: first ones to turn States evidence get a lighter sentence. Some key members of the Trump campaign and government will be going to prison.

If the Republicans somehow get away with alleged reports of wrongdoing, and come out of it smelling of roses (which is unlikely) then Oprah shouldn't be written off - clearly political experience is not needed (see Trump) and she's a supporter of Democratic politics, and would be a double kick-in-the-face to the extreme right who think they are going to change things to their way of seeing the world. She is also hugely popular with the electorate, smart, black and a woman, a triple whammy.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Houdini
post Mar 23 2017, 12:50 PM
Post #7
BuzzJack Gold Member
*****
Group: Members
Posts: 3,810
Member No.: 21,725
Joined: 4-April 15
   No Gallery Pics
 


Let's hope Donald Trump loses this election and spares us from 4 more years of his bullshit.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Klaus
post Mar 23 2017, 10:28 PM
Post #8
wtf are perfect places
******
Group: Entertainment Mod
Posts: 12,458
Member No.: 17,160
Joined: 3-June 12
   No Gallery Pics
 


Not in relation to 2020 but I can see Ivanka Trump standing to be a candidate in a future election so long as Trump does last the full 4 (or even 8 God help us) years. Her holding an office, advising her father and sitting in on meetings seems to be setting her up to be a future candidate for President. I'm sure Donald would love the fact that he could have a greater hold on the presidency.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Buttered Muffin
post Mar 23 2017, 10:45 PM
Post #9
Life is so much queefier than we allow ourselves to think x
******
Group: Members
Posts: 18,750
Member No.: 18,639
Joined: 18-April 13
   No Gallery Pics
 


Especially as she is basically one of his puppets. Plastic feminism.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
commonsense
post Mar 25 2017, 07:20 PM
Post #10
BuzzJack Platinum Member
******
Group: Members
Posts: 10,574
Member No.: 53
Joined: 7-March 06
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Mar 23 2017, 12:19 PM) *
everything depends on whether Trump has been convicted of treason by then.



If you mean impeached then most US political analysts that I've read recently can't see that happening whilst the Republicans control congress. They just won't find him guilty if it gets that far but the threat of it may cause him to throw in the towel as Nixon did and hand over to Pence who would then seek his own mandate in 2020.


This post has been edited by common sense: Mar 25 2017, 07:21 PM
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Suedehead2
post Mar 25 2017, 07:33 PM
Post #11
BuzzJack Legend
*******
Group: Admin.
Posts: 23,426
Member No.: 3,272
Joined: 13-April 07
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(common sense @ Mar 25 2017, 07:20 PM) *
If you mean impeached then most US political analysts that I've read recently can't see that happening whilst the Republicans control congress. They just won't find him guilty if it gets that far but the threat of it may cause him to throw in the towel as Nixon did and hand over to Pence who would then seek his own mandate in 2020.

If the Republicans think they face being hammered in the mid-terms, their loyalty to Trump may weaken somewhat.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sceryl_Streep
post Mar 25 2017, 07:57 PM
Post #12
Miss Rodham, if you're nasty
*******
Group: Veteran
Posts: 29,279
Member No.: 11,709
Joined: 23-August 10
 


Well, if THE GREAT DEAL MAKER fails to make another deal then they may well start to worry (and I may begin to allow HOPE back into my life)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
commonsense
post Apr 21 2017, 03:55 PM
Post #13
BuzzJack Platinum Member
******
Group: Members
Posts: 10,574
Member No.: 53
Joined: 7-March 06
   No Gallery Pics
 


Trump currently 11/10 to be the Republican candidate and Pence 11/2. Elizabeth Warren the current favourite for the Dems with Hillary around 10-1
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
FezVez
post Apr 22 2017, 09:53 AM
Post #14
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 1,553
Member No.: 10,358
Joined: 1-January 10
 


#Hillary2020
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
bluesunstorm
post Apr 24 2017, 09:39 PM
Post #15
BuzzJack Climber
**
Group: Members
Posts: 142
Member No.: 22,132
Joined: 10-July 15
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(common sense @ Apr 21 2017, 08:55 AM) *
Trump currently 11/10 to be the Republican candidate and Pence 11/2. Elizabeth Warren the current favourite for the Dems with Hillary around 10-1

Elizabeth Warren already said that she doesn't want to run for president. I really like her, but she already polls under Trump and Massachusetts isn't America - John Kerry says hi! She only won her Senate election by six points, and it's speculated that 2018 won't be a cakewalk for her either. There's still too much sexism and bias in politics against strong and intelligent women, unfortunately. I don't know who the 2020 Democratic nominee will be, but I'm guessing probably a center-left heterosexual (white) man.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Buttered Muffin
post Apr 24 2017, 09:59 PM
Post #16
Life is so much queefier than we allow ourselves to think x
******
Group: Members
Posts: 18,750
Member No.: 18,639
Joined: 18-April 13
   No Gallery Pics
 


Exactly. It won't be a woman - maybe the U.S as it is currently will NEVER have a woman president. There is waaay too much sexism.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sceryl_Streep
post Apr 24 2017, 11:21 PM
Post #17
Miss Rodham, if you're nasty
*******
Group: Veteran
Posts: 29,279
Member No.: 11,709
Joined: 23-August 10
 


It'll be Tim Kaine if Trump is likely to win, or some loser placeholder of that ilk.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Agent Cody Banks
post Apr 26 2017, 03:55 PM
Post #18
Now I think about you every single time I eat pizza
*******
Group: Moderator
Posts: 21,075
Member No.: 21,308
Joined: 24-October 14
   No Gallery Pics
 


Can we just have Bernie Sanders and call it a day
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Buttered Muffin
post Apr 26 2017, 05:50 PM
Post #19
Life is so much queefier than we allow ourselves to think x
******
Group: Members
Posts: 18,750
Member No.: 18,639
Joined: 18-April 13
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(#Justice4HeMo @ Apr 26 2017, 04:55 PM) *
Can we just have Bernie Sanders and call it a day


I told y'aaalll in the June BEFORE the prmaries even started that Berbie was the stronger, more popular candidate!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Buttered Muffin
post Apr 26 2017, 05:52 PM
Post #20
Life is so much queefier than we allow ourselves to think x
******
Group: Members
Posts: 18,750
Member No.: 18,639
Joined: 18-April 13
   No Gallery Pics
 


Frankly, if the DNC hadn't messed around with the process and debates and caucuses, opened every primary, SD only counting in the tallies AT the convention, Bernie woulda won. He had waay more momentum and was extremely popular at a grassroots level.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post


2 Pages V   1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:


 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 19th November 2017 - 10:12 AM