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common sense
post Mar 23 2017, 08:51 AM
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There was a thread just after the 2012 election for the 2016 one so here's a new one for 2020.

Here's a man convinced that Hillary will stand again.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/201...nt-again-214766
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post Mar 23 2017, 09:02 AM
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I honestly can't see her putting herself forward again and if she does I doubt she'd get the nomination. She's lost, twice and losers very rarely get a second chance. Could she beat Trump though, assuming he's the incumbent standing again?

Also being mentioned are Caroline Kennedy and Oprah Winfrey though I think the Dems won't risk a woman again next time.
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post Mar 23 2017, 09:42 AM
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Even if she wanted to (which, lets be honest, anyone with a desire for power who got that close would almost definitely want to try again) she won't. It wouldn't make sense, she's viewed very favourably for having fought ''the good fight'', but running again would be seen as hubris and she'd probably be humiliated by a poor showing in the early primaries and forced to drop out anyway.

I don't think running a female candidate is/was the issue here, it was a change election. Running with some like Elizabeth Warren in 2020 (or 2024) is more than likely going to be a major positive to the campaign, once again.
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post Mar 23 2017, 10:29 AM
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Hillary would rather spare herself the embarrassment of losing the next primary than attempt to run again surely?
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post Mar 23 2017, 10:39 AM
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Rumour is she's going to be Mayor of New York instead. She's still popular there and because of 9/11 it's one of the few places where the Police Union backed here over the orange c**t.

I doubt she'll run again. I could see her daughter running in 2028/2032 though.
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post Mar 23 2017, 12:19 PM
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everything depends on whether Trump has been convicted of treason by then. If the Republicans have been found to ignore clear evidence of collusion with the Russians interfering in elections and making deals then the Democrats could run a chipmunk and it will win. Watergate was a walk in the park compared what is being alleged currently. If 24 million lose their healthcare, the Dems will clean up (as many will have been trump supporters, and Dems won the popular vote anyway already).

The iron-clad rule of people going to prison is: first ones to turn States evidence get a lighter sentence. Some key members of the Trump campaign and government will be going to prison.

If the Republicans somehow get away with alleged reports of wrongdoing, and come out of it smelling of roses (which is unlikely) then Oprah shouldn't be written off - clearly political experience is not needed (see Trump) and she's a supporter of Democratic politics, and would be a double kick-in-the-face to the extreme right who think they are going to change things to their way of seeing the world. She is also hugely popular with the electorate, smart, black and a woman, a triple whammy.
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post Mar 23 2017, 12:50 PM
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Let's hope Donald Trump loses this election and spares us from 4 more years of his bullshit.
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post Mar 23 2017, 10:28 PM
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Not in relation to 2020 but I can see Ivanka Trump standing to be a candidate in a future election so long as Trump does last the full 4 (or even 8 God help us) years. Her holding an office, advising her father and sitting in on meetings seems to be setting her up to be a future candidate for President. I'm sure Donald would love the fact that he could have a greater hold on the presidency.
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post Mar 23 2017, 10:45 PM
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Especially as she is basically one of his puppets. Plastic feminism.
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post Mar 25 2017, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Mar 23 2017, 12:19 PM) *
everything depends on whether Trump has been convicted of treason by then.



If you mean impeached then most US political analysts that I've read recently can't see that happening whilst the Republicans control congress. They just won't find him guilty if it gets that far but the threat of it may cause him to throw in the towel as Nixon did and hand over to Pence who would then seek his own mandate in 2020.


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post Mar 25 2017, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(common sense @ Mar 25 2017, 07:20 PM) *
If you mean impeached then most US political analysts that I've read recently can't see that happening whilst the Republicans control congress. They just won't find him guilty if it gets that far but the threat of it may cause him to throw in the towel as Nixon did and hand over to Pence who would then seek his own mandate in 2020.

If the Republicans think they face being hammered in the mid-terms, their loyalty to Trump may weaken somewhat.
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post Mar 25 2017, 07:57 PM
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Well, if THE GREAT DEAL MAKER fails to make another deal then they may well start to worry (and I may begin to allow HOPE back into my life)
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post Friday, 03:55 PM
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Trump currently 11/10 to be the Republican candidate and Pence 11/2. Elizabeth Warren the current favourite for the Dems with Hillary around 10-1
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post Saturday, 09:53 AM
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#Hillary2020
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