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post Jul 29 2017, 12:09 PM
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So the single first appeared on the US hot 100 at #63 on the 12th August 1995 a little less than a month after Robbie left the band. 11 weeks later the song broke into the top 10 eventually reaching #7 on 11th November and overall stayed in the top 10 for 5 weeks.
That peak week the US top ten looked like this:

1. Fantasy - Mariah Carey
2. Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio featuring LV
3. Runaway - Janet Jackson
4. Kiss From A Rose - Seal
5. Tell Me - Groove Theory
6. As I Lay Me Down - Sophie B. Hawkins
7. Back For Good - Take That
8. Only Wanna Be With You - Hootie and the Blowfish
9. Who Can I Run To - Xscape
10. Name - Goo Goo Dolls.

As you can see the American chart was dominated by R & B, Rap and Alternative Rock and not Pop music so much.

They went on all the major US shows once the song was becoming/became a hit.

My question is if Robbie had remained in the band a little longer (potentially having seen the inroads of BFG in America) do you think they could have got the record higher than #7?

I feel watching these interviews they are good however Robbie's presence and charisma on these shows would have gained more attention/interest and possibly pushed the record slightly higher Stateside. Of course the guys are all charismatic but Rob would have brought a different element to the US audience. Despite being a pop artist he connects to an urban rap/hip hop audience. In his prime 50 cent (2003 etc) was desperate to work with him and a lot of US rappers seem to be fans.

It's safe to say that the top three of Mariah, Coolio and Janet would have been incredibly hard to shake in 1995 America but with Rob still in the band I feel it could have gone top 5. The interviewers and shows would have lapped him up.

This is a good article by US Billboard explaining potential reasons for their overall failure in America

On the end of year 1995 US chart I can only see two pop songs above Take That's #62 finish and both by superstars. Michael and Janet Jackson 'Scream' #56 and Elton John 'Believe' #59.

Could they have taken Back For Good higher?

As far as the albums in America was concerned Nobody Else peaked at #69 on 18th November 1995 and these were the top 10 albums in America that week:

1. Dogg Food - Tha Dogg Pound.
2. Daydream - Mariah Carey.
3. Cypress Hill III (Temple of Boom) - Cypress Hill
4. Jagged Little Pill - Alanis Morissette
5. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness - The Smashing Pumpkins
6. The Greatest Hits Collection - Alan Jackson
7. Cracked Rear View - Hootie and the Blowfish
8. On Top of the World - Eightball & MJG
9. Dangerous Minds - Soundtrack
10. Design of a Decade 1986/1996 - Janet Jackson

69. Nobody Else - Take That

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post Aug 14 2017, 06:32 AM
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I don't think they could achieve higher peak with Rob.
In solo career, Rob can't hit in US like ED Shreen. Take That and Rob just don't have that thing that attracts American.
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post Jun 14 2018, 10:57 AM
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I reckon they could have had more of a chance with Robbie still in the band but then again Robbie never broke America solo so I'm not sure thinking.gif thinking.gif
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post Jul 27 2018, 05:57 PM
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For anyone who is interested these are Take That's current Top Twenty purchased songs on US ITunes: UK #1s outside this also noted.

1. Back For Good
2. Get Ready For It
3. When We Were Young
4. How Deep Is Your Love
5. Rule The World
6. Never Forget
7. Patience
8. Giants
9. Pray
10. Shine
11. Could It Be Magic
12. Greatest Day
13. Love Ain't Here Anymore
14. It Only Takes a Minute
15. The Flood
16. Everything Changes
17. Love Love
18. Cry
19. Do What U Like
20. Sure

21. These Days
25. Babe
31. Relight My Fire

Top Selling Studio Albums on US Itunes

1. III
2. Progress
3. Wonderland
4. Beautiful World
5. Nobody Else
6. Take That & Party
7. The Circus
8. Everything Changes

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post Jul 27 2018, 06:41 PM
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For Canada where TT have had much more consistent success than the US. It reads like this for ITunes sales.

1. Patience
2. Back For Good
3. Shine
4. Greatest Day
5. Rule The World
6. How Deep Is Your Love
7. Kidz
8. Get Ready For It
9. When We Were Young
10. Never Forget
11. Beautiful World
12. Reach Out
13. Giants
14. Said It All
15. I'd Wait For Life
16. Pray
17. A Million Love Songs
18. Relight My Fire
19. Like I Never Loved You At All
20. Hold On

30. Everything Changes
33. Babe
40. These Days
43. Sure

Studio Albums on Canadian ITunes.

1. III
2. Wonderland
3. Beautiful World
4. Progress
5. The Circus
6. Nobody Else
7. Take That & Party
8. Everything Changes
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