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post Sep 13 2017, 07:57 AM
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I was going to call this topic "The week democracy died" but that would be hyperbole so I went for something more nuanced.

This week has seen two major blows for democracy in the UK. First, the EU (Withdrawal) Bill passed its first stage in the Commons. Whether you agree with leaving ther EU or not, other aspects of this bill are an affront to democracy. It ensures that all EU laws become part of UK law automatically when (if) we leave the EU. That part of the bill makes some sense (leaving aside once again the merits of leaving in the first place). However, it also grants ministers the power to repeal or amend those laws by decree, i.e. without debate or a vote in parliament. Of course, ministers have not given even the slightest hint of what EU laws need to be replied so urgently that the normal rules of democracy can be ignored.

As if that wasn't enough they have now rigged the make-up of parliamentary committees. In the past they have always reflected the make-up of the Commons. Not any more. Thanks to the DUP (whose deal with the government we now learn should have been - but hasn't been - endorsed by parliament), the Tories have changed the rules so that they will have a majority on all committees despite not having a majority in the Commons. This will make it a lot more difficult for the opposition to change legislation and will make the minority government's life easier. It is not hard to imagine how this would be covered in the press if a minority Labour government had tried to do the same thing.
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post Sep 13 2017, 07:42 PM
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oh I've been tweeting about this. Were the shoe on the other foot (and the Tories need to consider the possibility that it may well be before Brexit is completed), and Corbyn was grabbing constitutional powers to bring in new socialist agendas without going through Parliament they would be frothing at the mouth, almost certainly literally in some quarters.

Tories would be wise to consider the distinct possibility that May could be back-stabbed, either politically or literally (heaven forbid of course) and throw the Tory Party into chaos and another general election that they could well lose.

Nice to see Dennis Skinner (and others) feeling that Tories need powers that he doesn't feel the need to vote on. Such a fan of Tories after all, it seems. It would after all have been SUCH a terrible stance to take to make them take out unconstitutional powers to change laws before passing the bill.

Making quite the Bolsover it, as we used to say in Mansfield, before they also went deep Tory supporting the party that closed all the mines and ruined the local economy. That's how unpopular Polish immigrants are to locals...
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post Sep 13 2017, 07:55 PM
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Yes, both bills were disgraceful affronts to democracy. Anyone who votes Conservative should be deeply ashamed of themselves, a complete farce.
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