BuzzJack
Entertainment Discussion

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register | Help )

Latest Site News
2 Pages V   1 2 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Why did Chained To The Rhythm underperform?
Track this topic - Email this topic - Print this topic - Download this topic - Subscribe to this forum
Andrew.
post Dec 29 2017, 04:25 PM
Post #1
BuzzJack Platinum Member
******
Group: Members
Posts: 6,175
Member No.: 21,161
Joined: 24-August 14
 


'Chained...' was meant to be a huge smash for Katy, keeping up her streak of massive lead singles with a trendy political theme but has failed to make it to platinum in the UK despite having it's sales inflated by streaming, and in the US she went from being the #1 pop girl to being outperformed by other lead singles such as Praying and Sorry Not Sorry by artists who wouldn't have even been considered on the same level as Katy earlier on. It had some good performances across Europe but compared to her other leads quite poor.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Bitch
post Dec 29 2017, 05:24 PM
Post #2
Y'alls worst nightmare
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 23,794
Member No.: 16,660
Joined: 2-April 12
 


It was massive in Mainland Europe, thats what matters xxx
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Euphorique
post Dec 29 2017, 05:45 PM
Post #3
BuzzJack Legend
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 21,569
Member No.: 421
Joined: 6-April 06
 


It's not a very good song.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
The Snake
post Dec 29 2017, 05:48 PM
Post #4
BuzzJack Platinum Member
******
Group: Members
Posts: 9,063
Member No.: 23,308
Joined: 24-May 16
   No Gallery Pics
 


The verses are good but the chorus is really not to my taste.

The chorus is too much different to the verses, should have kept the moody atmosphere of the verses throughout the song and had a more subdued chorus.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
All★bySmashMouth
post Dec 29 2017, 06:06 PM
Post #5
FM11
******
Group: Members
Posts: 15,443
Member No.: 7,795
Joined: 25-November 08
 


Her "woke" imagery and lyrics probably caused it. It put some people off.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Styles Bilinski
post Dec 29 2017, 06:08 PM
Post #6
alt er love
*******
Group: Entertainment Mod
Posts: 26,590
Member No.: 8,674
Joined: 15-April 09
 


It's not a banger like a lot of her previous singles let's be honest
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Shia LeMuffQueef
post Dec 29 2017, 06:23 PM
Post #7
Life is so much queefier than we allow ourselves to think x
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 20,005
Member No.: 18,639
Joined: 18-April 13
   No Gallery Pics
 


Basically all this.

It's not her best and the chorus jars with the rest of the sing - very subdued. It is also Sia-by-numbers and doesn't have the usual Katy energy and isn't a huge bop.

The whole album was terrible, with bad lyrics, vocals and production, and so they released the best they had.

Also, her 'woke pop' was her ARTPOP pretentious moment. People weren't here for it.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Tawdry Hepburn
post Dec 29 2017, 07:02 PM
Post #8
I'll find your lips in the street lights
********
Group: Artist Mod
Posts: 60,524
Member No.: 51
Joined: 7-March 06
 


I do think a big part of it was her leaving it so long, so much can change in the space of 3 years in pop.

I wouldn't say it did that badly though, would have peaked at #3 without Ed Sheeran's releasing 2 singles. Obviously what killed the campaign stone dead and beyond all hope is 'Bon Appétit'.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Andrew.
post Dec 29 2017, 07:25 PM
Post #9
BuzzJack Platinum Member
******
Group: Members
Posts: 6,175
Member No.: 21,161
Joined: 24-August 14
 


QUOTE(Styles Bilinski @ Dec 29 2017, 06:08 PM) *
It's not a banger like a lot of her previous singles let's be honest

I jammed it HARD when it came out and I think I even said it was my favourite Katy track once oops but now it's her second worst single for me ahead of 'Teenage Dream' sad.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Shia LeMuffQueef
post Dec 29 2017, 07:31 PM
Post #10
Life is so much queefier than we allow ourselves to think x
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 20,005
Member No.: 18,639
Joined: 18-April 13
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(Andrew. @ Dec 29 2017, 07:25 PM) *
I jammed it HARD when it came out and I think I even said it was my favourite Katy track once oops but now it's her second worst single for me ahead of 'Teenage Dream' sad.gif


Sorry, you got taken in by fan hype, like I always warn afoot:p

Also TD is one of her best ever.

And I've said it once before, but I agree that doing a Nelly Furtado and baking pies for three years meant she was out the loop.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
George.keh
post Dec 29 2017, 09:06 PM
Post #11
BuzzJack Regular
***
Group: Members
Posts: 285
Member No.: 32,047
Joined: 24-May 17
   No Gallery Pics
 


It has gone platinum in the UK
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Dexton
post Dec 30 2017, 08:05 AM
Post #12
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 1,220
Member No.: 25,045
Joined: 29-January 17
   No Gallery Pics
 


Basically Katy waited too long for the wrong moment to release and so Chained To The Rhythm flopped more than it should have.

That said, the best thing about CTTR for me was the hamster lyric video that she released with it. laugh.gif Bon Appetit was godawful, every bit about it was just terrible. Swish Swish is a big improvement and should’ve been the second single, but it’s still nothing too special and a big let down compared to most of Katy’s previous singles. Without Nicki Minaj I wouldn’t have given Swish Swish a second listen. Hey Hey Hey is apparently the next single... I’d ask why but honestly most of the album is crap so good on her for trying with one of the slightly better album tracks.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
RobBob
post Dec 30 2017, 01:35 PM
Post #13
I'm in a vewy bad mood, Bwadley.
*******
Group: Entertainment Mod
Posts: 30,717
Member No.: 7,117
Joined: 24-September 08
 


I just don't think anyone is really calling for Katy to be serious and while I love the song, it doesn't have that massive karaoke-ready pop chorus that Katy is so famed for. It's always hard for me to distance myself from being a 'stan' so I loved the song immediately but I don't think, if I try and be impartial, it is as much of an immediate bop as Roar/California Gurls/I Kissed A Girl which all hit you round the head with hooks.

The three years probably didn't help, neither did Rise which killed off a REAL comeback feel, a 'woke' image people didn't believe, apparently her hair aswell. I'm glad you used 'underperform' though because it did do well and it certainly was a million miles from an embarrassment for her but would she have been expected to do better? Yeah, she would.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Joe.
post Dec 30 2017, 06:38 PM
Post #14
BuzzJack Legend
*******
Group: Chart Mod
Posts: 23,752
Member No.: 19,931
Joined: 11-October 13
 


It only really underperformed in the US. Even in Canada it’s one of her highest selling singles. Same goes for France, Germany and Australia. In the Uk it outsold the lead singles from Kesha, Pink, Taylor, Miley, Demi in 2017.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
cqmerqnita
post Jan 4 2018, 08:31 AM
Post #15
lotita 4ever
******
Group: Members
Posts: 12,165
Member No.: 23,155
Joined: 10-April 16
   No Gallery Pics
 


It felt huge to me!

I think Katy is as big as ever. She just needs another hit.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
blacksquare
post Jan 4 2018, 02:02 PM
Post #16
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 589
Member No.: 23,471
Joined: 25-July 16
   No Gallery Pics
 


I think people have exaggerated the underperformance of this, mostly because it didn't get to number one and because the campaign completely derailed as soon as Bon Appetit dropped. It was a hit. It's a great song. Could it have been bigger? Sure, I do think Rise took a lot of the hype but you also had Ed Sheeran clogging up the charts and potentially divisive lyrics.

Also look at the charts right now, they are completely unpredictable. Streaming is difficult and the majority of the big female popstars just aren't having hit after hit anymore. There are more factors to look at these days anyway.




Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Neil
post Jan 4 2018, 08:38 PM
Post #17
BuzzJack Gold Member
*****
Group: Members
Posts: 2,816
Member No.: 9,016
Joined: 11-June 09
   No Gallery Pics
 


I wouldn't say it underperformed.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Joe.
post Jan 4 2018, 09:41 PM
Post #18
BuzzJack Legend
*******
Group: Chart Mod
Posts: 23,752
Member No.: 19,931
Joined: 11-October 13
 


QUOTE(Neil @ Jan 4 2018, 08:38 PM) *
I wouldn't say it underperformed.


In America it did for sure, though not a flop - it didn’t even go top 5 on pop which was strange for a Katy lead. But everywhere else it had a very healthy run.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Shia LeMuffQueef
post Jan 5 2018, 12:33 AM
Post #19
Life is so much queefier than we allow ourselves to think x
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 20,005
Member No.: 18,639
Joined: 18-April 13
   No Gallery Pics
 


Yeah, it flopped.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
slowdown73
post Saturday, 11:21 PM
Post #20
BuzzJack Platinum Member
******
Group: Members
Posts: 5,944
Member No.: 1,031
Joined: 3-August 06
   No Gallery Pics
 


It hardly under performed or flopped. It reached top 5 in UK and sold over 400k so that’s not a flop. I think a lot of people were expecting it to sell larger volumes like the first singles did from her other albums but it’s still done fine and much better than in comparison to anything else from this era.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post


2 Pages V   1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:


 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 17th January 2018 - 08:08 PM