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Do you miss the held back releases?
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cqmerqn
post Feb 4 2018, 07:46 PM
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Do you miss held-back releases?

I really do because it allowed a decent variety of music styles.

Also gave us a lot more hits, even if the artist wasn’t known.

What do you think? Vote and discuss
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post Feb 4 2018, 08:13 PM
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Why anyone would vote “yes” I won’t understand. Like why would you want to wait to legally access the music you want to hear seriously?
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post Feb 4 2018, 08:14 PM
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I dont. I like the fact an artist announces a song and you could buy it as soon as its on sale. I hated having to wait ages for a song, when a whole bunch of cover versions clog up iTunes.

Another reason is that the UK was always last to get the official song. Perfect example being Icona Pop - I don't care. By the time it gets released, people have already lost interest.

At the same time, it did make the charts look tidier when we had held back releases.

Nah. Im all for instant releases.


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post Feb 4 2018, 08:26 PM
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also made the chart superpredictable, you knew who was gonna be #1 each week
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post Feb 4 2018, 08:27 PM
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Yes we may have had to wait a few weeks to download it illegally, but it was still on the radio and YouTube.

It gave us so many good songs
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post Feb 4 2018, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(cqmerqn @ Feb 4 2018, 08:27 PM) *
Yes we may have had to wait a few weeks to download it illegally, but it was still on the radio and YouTube.

It gave us so many good songs

How did it give us so many good songs? Completely lost on your logic there. The standard just has dipped in general of late.
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post Feb 4 2018, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Midge @ Feb 4 2018, 08:39 PM) *
How did it give us so many good songs? Completely lost on your logic there. The standard just has dipped in general of late.

Well there were more top 40 chart hits in that era including songs that would never go near top 40 now (particularly the dance songs that got held back for absolute ages, and the BuzzFaves (Saturdays etc.) charted higher from pent-up fan pre-orders).

I personally don't miss held back releases though cos it was a pain to have to YouTube songs until their actual release when I could add to my iTunes or Spotify library (there was even a time when Spotify releases were held back, but eventually they stopped that which led to songs charting on streams alone for many weeks before download release)
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post Feb 4 2018, 08:53 PM
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I mean lots more songs getting in to the charts, standard of songs being a lot higher.
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post Feb 4 2018, 08:54 PM
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It's a mixed answer really.

From the chart point of view it made it more possible to have big chart battles where two or more songs could go head to head for the #1, also it made the chart feel a lot fresher with more frequent new entries and older songs leaving the chart sooner. The week when Ed Sheeran had 15 out of the top 16 singles would never have happened during the held back era as well.


From the point of view of being a customer it's better the way things are now having whatever you want immediately available to access. Even not taken music into consideration, if for example you plan to make Spaghetti Bolognese this week and you want to buy a packet of minced meat from Sainsburys you would rather buy it this week instead of waiting until 6 weeks time to buy it.
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post Feb 4 2018, 08:59 PM
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I don't think the quality of big chart hits supposedly declining has anything to do with the UK finally getting on board with the rest of the world in having OA/OS.

The takeover of music streaming over downloading has certainly affected what type of songs make the chart, but that is a different matter.
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post Feb 4 2018, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(Midge @ Feb 4 2018, 08:13 PM) *
Why anyone would vote “yes” I won’t understand. Like why would you want to wait to legally access the music you want to hear seriously?


it's not that - it was that the chart was better when songs were held back because more songs had the opportunity to make the top 40 and there was more variety

However, I think streaming behaviours would've meant this would've changed for the worse anyway
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post Feb 4 2018, 09:06 PM
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It would have been interesting to see where songs like: French Montana - Unforgettable, Big Shaq - Man's Not Hot, J Hus - Did You See, Post Malone - Rockstar would have peaked in the chart if it was still the held back sales only era.
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post Feb 4 2018, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(Evil Houdini @ Feb 4 2018, 09:06 PM) *
It would have been interesting to see where songs like: French Montana - Unforgettable, Big Shaq - Man's Not Hot, J Hus - Did You See, Post Malone - Rockstar would have peaked in the chart if it was still the held back sales only era.

I think they'd have all peaked around the same positions that they did. 'Unforgettable' at #2 behind 'Despacito', 'Man's Not Hot' going top 5 from meme hype, 'Rockstar' making #1 cos it was that big and 'Did You See' making the lower half of the top ten.
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post Feb 4 2018, 09:23 PM
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Completely agree with the above

Imagine the first week sales for Despacito under the preorder era ohmy.gif
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post Feb 4 2018, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(danG @ Feb 4 2018, 09:10 PM) *
I think they'd have all peaked around the same positions that they did. 'Unforgettable' at #2 behind 'Despacito', 'Man's Not Hot' going top 5 from meme hype, 'Rockstar' making #1 cos it was that big and 'Did You See' making the lower half of the top ten.


I think 'Unforgettable' would have peaked slightly lower, but the rest I agree. They were four of the biggest songs of last year after all.
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post Feb 5 2018, 09:34 AM
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Almost 50% of people miss having to wait to be able to get a hold of the tracks they like, I'm dumbfounded by the lack of common sense!
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post Feb 5 2018, 09:48 AM
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I voted yes as it made the charts more interesting and I enjoyed the competitive element it added even if in hindsight it was manufactured. Obviously as a music consumer it's better the way things are now as you can buy/stream all your music as soon as it's released but in terms of my interest in the charts I do miss held back releases quite a bit as there was more discussion to be had.
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post Feb 5 2018, 11:05 AM
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No.
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post Feb 5 2018, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(danG @ Feb 4 2018, 08:59 PM) *
I don't think the quality of big chart hits supposedly declining has anything to do with the UK finally getting on board with the rest of the world in having OA/OS.

The takeover of music streaming over downloading has certainly affected what type of songs make the chart, but that is a different matter.

100% to this.

Streaming simply caters more to a different demographic than those that would download or buy a cd single, which has far more of an effect on the type of songs doing well in the charts than how it is released.

I don’t miss it at all. The UK always ended up having big gaps from their original releases in us/Europe which was very frustrating. As has been mentioned this did often have a negative effect of people getting bored of a song before it was even legally available (Work Bitch for example).

It also made things a bit too predictable. We would get loads of flash in the pan number ones/top tens that plummeted the week after. Now a number one/top ten actually seems like a big accomplishment again.


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post Feb 5 2018, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(Midge @ Feb 5 2018, 09:34 AM) *
Almost 50% of people miss having to wait to be able to get a hold of the tracks they like, I'm dumbfounded by the lack of common sense!

I think people voted yes because of the effect held back releases had on the chart as a whole, that was why I voted yes anyway!


If I was someone who doesn't and has never had an interest in the charts then it would have been a 100% no. Looking at charts from the mid-late 90's, early 00's & early 2010's you can see how fresh things where every week.
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