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post Feb 7 2018, 01:59 PM
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Since the 2000s they all just finish properly. Can't think of a current or recent record that ends with a fade out.
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:11 PM
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it just sounds unprofessional and unfinished to give songs a fade out now, not to mention dated, that's probably why.
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:14 PM
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There is probably a perception that songs fading out sounds dated.

It still can provide a great effect though I think, if used right. The best example of a song fading out at the end which provides a brilliant effect imo has to be The Smiths - There Is A Light That Never Goes Out.
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:14 PM
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Rihanna's 'Work' fades out, I believe.

I remember watching a video on YouTube about how songs don't seem to fade out anymore and they showed some examples of songs where it really works. I don't think it's lazy necessarily and surely there could be an argument that songs ending abruptly is lazy?
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:18 PM
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The 80s style Dua Lipa - New Rules Initial Talk remix faded out at the end for obvious reasons.
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 7 2018, 02:14 PM) *
Rihanna's 'Work' fades out, I believe.

Yes it does! There aren't many hits over the past few years that do - the modern form of it is to have a conundrum of sorts where the song calms down before it ends.
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:48 PM
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Justin Timberlake's Supplies fades out a bit at the end tongue.gif Also Major Lazer's Get Free, although neither of these are the trancelike fade outs that are remembered best laugh.gif
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:49 PM
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I've sometimes wondered this as well, nothing wrong with a good old fade-out.
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post Feb 7 2018, 06:58 PM
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Pink-Beautiful Trauma definitely fades out.
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post Feb 7 2018, 07:01 PM
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While we're at it, what happened to the good ol' key change? Haven't had many of those since the good ol' Westlife days. Wait, that probably explains it.
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post Feb 7 2018, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Feb 7 2018, 07:01 PM) *
While we're at it, what happened to the good ol' key change? Haven't had many of those since the good ol' Westlife days. Wait, that probably explains it.


Yep, you've answered your own question there. I think both are a little out-dated - incidentally does anyone know of a hit pop song that has more key changes than Vic Reeves & the Wonderstuff's "Dizzy" - which has an unbelievable twelve!?


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post Feb 7 2018, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Feb 7 2018, 08:14 PM) *
Yep, you've answered your own question there. I think both are a little out-dated - incidentally does anyone know of a hit pop song that has more key changes than Vic Reeves & the Wonderstuff's "Dizzy" - which has an unbelievable twelve!?


I believe that "Poison" by Alice Cooper matches it with twelve as well - it changes key three times in each of its choruses, and it has 4 of those.

Another one that has a lot more key changes than you may realise is "Road Rage" by Catatonia. Both its verse & chorus are in different keys, and each verse/chorus pairing moves up half a step, making (I believe) 5 key changes in all.
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post Feb 7 2018, 09:09 PM
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Beyoncé's 'Love On Top' feels like it has about 12 key changes in it.
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post Feb 7 2018, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(Bré @ Feb 7 2018, 09:09 PM) *
Beyoncé's 'Love On Top' feels like it has about 12 key changes in it.

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post Feb 7 2018, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(Bré @ Feb 7 2018, 09:09 PM) *
Beyoncé's 'Love On Top' feels like it has about 12 key changes in it.

Hahaha immediately reminds me of this:



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post Feb 7 2018, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Feb 7 2018, 07:14 PM) *
Yep, you've answered your own question there. I think both are a little out-dated - incidentally does anyone know of a hit pop song that has more key changes than Vic Reeves & the Wonderstuff's "Dizzy" - which has an unbelievable twelve!?


Kim Wilde - The Second Time sounds very key change heavy but I wouldn't say it has as many as Dizzy!

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While we're at it, what happened to the good ol' key change? Haven't had many of those since the good ol' Westlife days. Wait, that probably explains it.


Don't trap songs (like Don't Let Me Down by the Chainsmokers ft Daya) have a few key changes in it in the drop?


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post Feb 7 2018, 10:44 PM
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for one of the best key changes of recent times, look no further than : greedy by ariana grande. that's a key change.
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post Feb 7 2018, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(kye @ Feb 7 2018, 10:44 PM) *
for one of the best key changes of recent times, look no further than : greedy by ariana grande. that's a key change.

Oh baby yes! *.*
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QUOTE(kye @ Feb 7 2018, 10:44 PM) *
for one of the best key changes of recent times, look no further than : greedy by ariana grande. that's a key change.


YES. wub.gif That's an example of a truly excellent key change which elevates the song.

I don't particularly like fade-outs. I think my favourite use of one off the top of my head would have to be in Girls Aloud's 'Jump'.
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I recall reading an article about this a few years ago, so I tried to find it on Google. I ended up finding a few and can't remember which one it was, but here they are if you're interested!

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/music_b...y_reducing.html
https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2010...-out-at-the-end
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/...others-end-cold

The second one gives a handful of recent songs with fade-outs: Blurred Lines, Get Lucky, Beautiful Liar, Glamorous, Don't Matter, and Can't Hold Us (the video version).

I don't think it's necessarily laziness, more so that radio edits would get rid of the fade-out anyway so no sense in having it in the first place.
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