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Popchartfreak
post Feb 9 2018, 11:40 AM
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A place to gather weekly news events that are actually quite Big....

How about a billionaire getting private space travel off the ground, and and a monument with whimsy "Don't Panic/David Bowie" rocketing away from Planet Earth. Alien civilisations will have great theories...

How about a privileged billionaire lying about Brexit so he can get richer then calling for support for the poorest (tax money he avoids in large part with offshore advice and creations) to be cancelled entirely.

Anti-semitism on the front page of a millionaire-owned Rag towards a rich holocaust survivor because they don't like his political views - but are happy to push their own agendas.

Ancient Britons - evidence discovered that our ancestors were black-skinned. Obviously that gives a degree of self-righteousness for black-skinned British to say to fair-skinned British people to piss off back to their own countries (that'll be EUROPE!) having arrived illegally and uninvited in hordes over the course of centuries. Karma is a thing.

Turns out Melania's parents have no qualifications and are living in the USA without a job or finances. Surely exactly the sort of people Donald Trump is trying to get kicked out? Karma is a bitch.

Contrary to White House made-up memos, the investigation in Russia and the Trump election and staff is steaming ahead on several fronts.

An actual Nazi is up for election for the Republican party. Not hidden. Not kicked out. Not made-up. An actual statement-making admitted Nazi. That is the State of the USA right now.

Meanwhile the Republican Party, who fought against every Obama Bill that meant spending on the excuse of "debt" are trying to shut down government rather than amend a hugely debt-creating Bill, having given away trillions in tax to billionaires.

World Gone Mad?
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post Feb 9 2018, 02:19 PM
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An actual Nazi is up for election for the Republican party. Not hidden. Not kicked out. Not made-up. An actual statement-making admitted Nazi. That is the State of the USA right now.


Trump finally outed himself, then? tongue.gif
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post Feb 19 2018, 07:20 AM
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Labour MPs 'were paid £10,000 to meet spies’: Ex-Czech informant claims at least 15 senior figures were used in the Russian-orchestrated operation as Westminster is urged to launch a probe into the allegations

I've been trying to find the Guardian's opinion on this story, but curiously, they seem to be silent. teresa.gif
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post Feb 19 2018, 08:58 AM
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Stories originating from spies are always suspect. Equally, stories dominating one front page but ignored by the rest of the press are often dubious at best.
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post Feb 19 2018, 09:02 AM
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Probably because the Czech Government said it was a complete fabrication...
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post Feb 19 2018, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Feb 19 2018, 08:58 AM) *
Stories originating from spies are always suspect.


Oh I agree, but in my experience they only get dismissed out of hand when they are about political figures on the side of the dismissee. thinking.gif

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I saw the story in the Express & Independent too.
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post Feb 19 2018, 09:43 AM
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Probably because the Czech Government said it was a complete fabrication...


*Every* government would issue a denial in similar circumstances...
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post Feb 19 2018, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Feb 19 2018, 07:20 AM) *
Labour MPs 'were paid £10,000 to meet spies’: Ex-Czech informant claims at least 15 senior figures were used in the Russian-orchestrated operation as Westminster is urged to launch a probe into the allegations

I've been trying to find the Guardian's opinion on this story, but curiously, they seem to be silent. teresa.gif


Look forward to seeing some evidence. We actually have evidence of UKIP involvement in the same.....not least farage's clandestine meeting with Julian Assange after leaving Trump. What was the purpose of that meeting? How is it Assange gets hold of so much KGB-sourced material that supports Trump, Brexit and right-wing parties in Europe and seems to always be against non-extreme democratic parties?

Funny that.
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post Feb 19 2018, 11:38 AM
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What information were Labour (opposition) backbenchers likely to be able to provide that couldn't have been gained simply by reading a newspaper?
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post Feb 19 2018, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Feb 19 2018, 07:20 AM) *
Labour MPs 'were paid £10,000 to meet spies’: Ex-Czech informant claims at least 15 senior figures were used in the Russian-orchestrated operation as Westminster is urged to launch a probe into the allegations

I've been trying to find the Guardian's opinion on this story, but curiously, they seem to be silent. teresa.gif


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/f...rbyn-spy-claims

journalists have one key purpose: to make sure that what they cover has been verified and investigate both sides before publishing. Otherwise, as I constantly say, it's propaganda.

Produce some proof, get the "spy" to come clean and give accounts, like bank account details, correspondence that they knew (if it happened) the people involved were Communist Spies - 30 years ago - and then explain how it is any different from Corbyn meeting members of terrorist organisations for free, or getting paid to speak on Russia Today. I mean, I would love it to be true, but y'know, I need proof....
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post Feb 19 2018, 10:57 PM
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And so the "Corbin was a spy" story continues to fall apart...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/f...er-legal-threat
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What secret information is a (newly elected) back bench MP supposed to have had back in 1983?

This story has been running all weekend, I wonder what has spooked the right-wing press all of a sudden?
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post Feb 20 2018, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Feb 20 2018, 12:17 AM) *
What secret information is a (newly elected) back bench MP supposed to have had back in 1983?

That's the point I made earlier. It's the reason why the story just doesn't make any sense. It's not even as if he was being spoken of as a rising star who might, therefore, be worth cultivating. He was laws known as a left-winger with no real ambition to be on the front bench. The fact that he became leader long after the Soviet bloc collapsed doesn't invalidate that general perception.
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post Feb 21 2018, 12:57 AM
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Indeed. Oh and:



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post Feb 21 2018, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Feb 21 2018, 12:57 AM) *
Indeed. Oh and:



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laugh.gif indeed
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I do love Matt's cartoons. This one remains my favourite he's ever done -

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post Feb 27 2018, 09:01 PM
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There's a few things today:

kids trying to get the NRA to change it's stance so they dont get regularly murdered have become targets of the right-wing media and Republicans because they are a danger to their core belief of children getting murdered being perfectly ok.

Successful campaigning has encouraged some companies to stop financing the NRA (who pay no tax as they are a "charity". A charity in the same way as a dog with rabies is just spreading the love) but there is a day of action planned against Amazon and Apple on Thursday. I certainly won't be buying anything on Thursday. It remains to be seen whether I buy anything on friday (or thereafter) from them....

A major paper seems to be preparing a piece about Cambridge Anal-litica, Aaron banks and the use of money during the referendum. May be enlightening.

Trump encourages Americans to vote for "Lyin'" Ted Cruz and help keep his "Ugly wife, who's not as hot as his -Trump's - 3rd wife" (Paraphrased from earlier Trump quotes) in the lifestyle to which she has become accustomed.

The Brexiteers have had a field day. Johnson thinks the London Congestion Charge should be adopted instead of actual passports and checks at borders. Why has no country in the world thought of this marvellous idea! The man's a genius!

Fox is a bit uppity cos he's frightened his job might become irrelevant and his cash reserves affected, so he's been spreading some more not-quite-true-isms.

There's been a bit of snow. It's the end of the world as we know it! Truly shocking that a country so close to the Arctic Circle should get a day of snow. It might be worse! 2 or 3 days! God help us all!!!
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post Feb 28 2018, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Feb 27 2018, 09:01 PM) *
There's a few things today:

kids trying to get the NRA to change it's stance so they dont get regularly murdered have become targets of the right-wing media and Republicans because they are a danger to their core belief of children getting murdered being perfectly ok.


If the Mail had come up with a misrepresentation that gross, you would be outraged.

There's a *big* difference between the unintended consequence of a policy, and actually reveling in it - the idea that anyone in the NRA is happy about school massacres is bordering on libelous.
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post Feb 28 2018, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Feb 28 2018, 07:19 AM) *
If the Mail had come up with a misrepresentation that gross, you would be outraged.

There's a *big* difference between the unintended consequence of a policy, and actually reveling in it - the idea that anyone in the NRA is happy about school massacres is bordering on libelous.


The Mail reports news. My own statements are opinion about news when I use exaggeration and sarcasm in a sentence. Their core belief is that kids getting murdered by assault rifles is better than stopping unstable people having access to them is a matter of record. Therefore, rather than agree to sensible gun control they would rather dead children. And attack the children who witnessed it, and are trying to stand up for not being murdered. I would call that evil. It is a policy that killing children is preferable to minor legislation to avoid it.

So they don't care at all. No person who cared genuinely would object to what the survivors of the massacre are doing and trying to achieve.

PS at least SOME members and supporters of the NRA are very keen on the idea of murdering children - the ones that do it. The "few bad apples" manage to murder tens of thousands of people each year.....
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post Feb 28 2018, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Feb 28 2018, 01:07 PM) *
The Mail reports news. My own statements are opinion about news when I use exaggeration and sarcasm in a sentence. Their core belief is that kids getting murdered by assault rifles is better than stopping unstable people having access to them is a matter of record.


Nobody could object to *unstable* people being denied access to guns, but would you be so keen on the notion that 'no-one should be allowed to drive because drunk drivers kill hundreds of people a year'?

If you object to that analogy, then what about the law of unintended consequences? The Temperance Movements that led to Prohibition were undoubtedly sincere in their belief that banning alcohol would be a good thing, but they could not have predicted that organised crime would make the situation far worse.

IRO banning all guns, there's a very foreseeable possibility that more people will be mugged, burgled, raped or even killed if they no longer have the means to defend themselves.

In short, *all* the consequences have to be considered, not just the headline ones.


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