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post Jul 10 2019, 01:59 PM
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Official Charts: First Look to offer early glance at the Official Singles Chart every Sunday

Radio 1 will broadcast the one hour show in the historic Sunday teatime slot.

By Rob Copsey

BBC Radio 1 is teaming up with the Official Charts to launch a brand new chart show every week.

The new show, The Official Chart: First Look, will broadcast between 6pm - 7pm in the historic Sunday slot, providing the earliest possible glance at the Official Singles Chart based on early sales and stream reports - ahead of the regular weekly Friday rundown hosted by Scott Mills.

The chart will give the fastest aggregated picture of the new week’s biggest hits for the UK, reflecting popularity across the full spectrum of the Official Charts' sales and streams panel - including all of the UK’s key download and streaming services, including Spotify, Amazon, Apple Music, iTunes, Deezer, Google and many more.

The show will launch on Sunday, July 14 hosted by Cel Spellman and Katie Thistleton live from Salford. The programme will focus on the Top 20 biggest tracks from data collected on Friday and Saturday, with the Top 10 played in full.

Official Charts Company chief executive Martin Talbot said: “This is a fantastic new show on BBC Radio 1, giving a very first glance at the data we have collected at this early stage in the chart week - raising profile of new tracks which are making a move ahead of the full, Official Singles Chart rundown every Friday.

"The aim is build anticipation for all of the new music released that week and provide a running commentary using our most preliminary streaming and sales reports."

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/o...-sunday__26823/
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post Jul 10 2019, 02:04 PM
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Interesting move by both Radio 1 and the OCC. And it looks like the Friday Chart Predictions thread will be appearing 24 hours earlier each week...

The schedules for Radio 1 on Sunday and Monday have yet to be updated but I'm wondering if the Monday chart update will continue or will it be dropped? Also what streaming data will be available for a Sunday chart? Will it only be from Friday - effectively giving more weight to download sales in the chart update - or will Saturday streaming data be included? I guess we'll find out soon enough...
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BBC Radio 1 to launch 'first glance' Sunday chart show this week

by Andre Paine

BBC Radio 1 is to launch a new Sunday Official Chart Show to “build anticipation” ahead of the final singles chart the following Friday.

The station is partnering with the Official Charts Company on the show in the historic Sunday teatime slot. It will be competing with commercial chart shows on Bauer’s Hits Radio and Global stations including Heart and Capital.

The Official Chart: First Look will air from 6pm to 7pm, providing the earliest indications of the Official Singles Chart based on early sales and streaming reports. The regular weekly Friday rundown, hosted by Scott Mills, will continue to be broadcast as normal.

The station dropped its Midweek Chart Update Wednesday show when the OCC moved the chart day from Sunday to Friday in 2015.

The new Radio 1 chart show is billed as the “fastest aggregated picture of the new week’s biggest hits for the UK”, reflecting popularity across the full spectrum of the Official Charts Company’s sales and streams panel, including all of the UK’s key download and streaming services – Spotify, Amazon, Apple Music, iTunes, Deezer, Google/YouTube and YouTube Music, among others.

The show will launch on Sunday (July 14), hosted by Cel Spellman and Katie Thistleton live from Salford, and focus on the Top 20 biggest tracks from data collected on Friday and Saturday. The latest Top 10 will be played in full, although the move comes at a time of increasingly static singles charts.

Official Charts Company chief executive, Martin Talbot, said: “This is a fantastic new show on BBC Radio 1, giving a very first glance at the data we have collected at this early stage in the chart week - raising profile of new tracks which are making a move ahead of the full, Official Singles Chart rundown every Friday. The aim is build anticipation for all of the new music released that week and provide a running commentary using our most preliminary streaming and sales.”

Thistleton said: “The Official Chart is such iconic radio and we know that during that slot our listeners love to hear the best chart tunes and get shout outs. I love listening to the official chart with Scott and love that we get to be a part of that buzz!”

from musicweek.com
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post Jul 10 2019, 02:19 PM
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When I first skimmed the thread I thought 'oh this is to give exposure to new songs in the Top 40 so they stay there' but then I saw that they were only announcing the Top 20 so I'm not really sure of the point. I guess the aim is to try and stop songs which enter high up in the early updates from falling ridiculously by Friday, in which case missing streams might actually work in their favour as they get to play more 'new' songs that have larger initial sales hype.
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There has already been some chat about this in the Radio 1 Discussion thread this morning!

I definitely think this is a good move from Radio 1, certainly a better use of the Sunday 6pm slot than the existing Radio 1’s Most Played show. There will definitely be some interesting charts here too, with presumably two days of paid sales/downloads and only one day of streaming counting towards this! The recent singles from Liam Gallagher and Westlife would have been close to (if not at) number one earlier this year!
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post Jul 10 2019, 02:34 PM
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I suppose they’re trying to make the chart seem more exciting by having big new releases up higher than they’ll end up officially chatting then?
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post Jul 11 2019, 07:55 AM
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No doubt this could be a move to rival the Big Top 40 as well, that's always been proud to be the 'freshest chart around' by including new releases that haven't been out for the full week - this new show will definitely beat that with only Friday and Saturday's sales!
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Intrigued by this! Hopefully we can make Sunday evenings a lil event on Buzzjack again, I'll be prepping something to hopefully try out this Sunday!
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^ I would love that Joseph! I haven't been able to listen to the chart live for almost a year (give or take a couple of sick days) so that would be most appreciated.
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post Jul 11 2019, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(coi @ Jul 11 2019, 08:55 AM) *
No doubt this could be a move to rival the Big Top 40 as well, that's always been proud to be the 'freshest chart around' by including new releases that haven't been out for the full week - this new show will definitely beat that with only Friday and Saturday's sales!
It will make for an interesting comparison with the Big Top 40 on Sunday as the Big Top 40 chart has no ACR or "three track per act" rules and will possibly be an Ed Sheeran dominated chart.
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I'm not really 100 per cent sure over the new Sunday chart show, won't there be a lot of sales data missing.
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I take it is 100% confirmed that there will no longer be a Chart Update in Nick Grimshaw's Monday show any mpre?
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I don’t see much point in this - I’d rather they go back to airing the official charts on a Sunday but that’s never going to happen!
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Since the official chart show moved to Fridays we've had in it's old slot The Number 1 Show which went meh by its third week and Radio 1's Most Played which I thought was really a placeholder, I think they've finally got something efficient with the new First Look show, can't wait to listen.

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when does it start? today, right?
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Yes, it starts today at 6pm.
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Looking forWard to this. Makes sense to have a update in the traditional day and time even if the top 40 is a Friday now. And as Joseph said we can do a event countdown like old times here where more people are likely to take part like me.
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Surely this move has been less about giving earlier exposure to tracks destined to chart or climb on the Friday full-week frame or 'building anticipation', and more about trying to fill the historic Radio 1 Sunday afternoon 'chart slot' with something more meaningful that people might actually want to listen to? Albeit that it was driven by the (I still think errant) decision to move the chart week from Friday to Thursday in accordance with the general shift to Friday as new releases day, and it seemed to make logical sense to be the first to air the official rankings, I think Radio 1 scored a huge own goal by moving the main chart broadcast to Fridays from Sundays, at least in terms of listenership, as there are so many more people who can set aside the time on a Sunday than a Friday. As someone who long-since fell out of love with the type of music that tends to make the Top 40, and in response to the very slow turnover of hits, I haven't been too concerned about missing the official chart on Friday afternoons, but had I been so, it would've been a real blow as it's just not a convenient time to listen. I do sometimes have the Big Top 40 on as background on a Sunday afternoon as despite it being of little relevance in terms of the positions, and not being 'official', I'm simply more likely to be pottering around the house and want to have something on the radio, and that presents as a convenient option. Granted, we now have podcasts and catch-ups but the whole point of a chart show surely is that is a live fresh-off-the-press broadcast; it doesn't quite have the same interest if heard a day or so later.

So in effect, all that the move served to do was shift attention away from the official chart and transfer what small listenership there was left for it over to ILR. I think in this day and age while there retains some interest in hearing a chart countdown, there's probably less concern about the specific positioning of tracks, accuracy, how official it is etc. People just want a chart rundown experience to have on, regardless of details. It's almost a tradition for some. Hence why the Big Top 40 for all its faults holds all the aces and R1 are left struggling to retrospectively-fill the Sunday void they created. An airplay chart based solely on what that station plays was never going to cut it. I suppose a 'chart update' is probably their best option for competing with the BT40, although of course it will only be an hour, not three.

It will be interesting if they present a rules-free update though, without the starrings-out etc, as per the updates that feature on MW.com during the week. I suspect they might apply the rules to the Sunday update for broadcast purposes though, as surely it would seem illogical - and undermine the reputation of the full-week official chart on Fridays - were they to air any anticipated hits on Sunday that miraculously get airbrushed from the Friday edition owing to the three-track rule? I think the less attention drawn to the artificial removal of certain songs from the official listing the better. The chief concern though has already been aired by several on this thread - given that they still seem to be without key streaming data from some of the biggest players even come Wednesdays, how complete can a Sunday update really be? To say that it will derive data from all streaming sites for the Sunday show just doesn't ring true to me, and if it is mostly made up of actual sales data without much in the way of streaming, the rankings of a Sunday will be far-removed from what they will likely be come Friday. I guess for those who would like a return to a sales-only tabulation that would provide some greater interest, but the disparity between the two Top 20s will soon become apparent.
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QUOTE(Gambo @ Jul 15 2019, 09:58 AM) *
Surely this move has been less about giving earlier exposure to tracks destined to chart or climb on the Friday full-week frame or 'building anticipation', and more about trying to fill the historic Radio 1 Sunday afternoon 'chart slot' with something more meaningful that people might actually want to listen to? Albeit that it was driven by the (I still think errant) decision to move the chart week from Friday to Thursday in accordance with the general shift to Friday as new releases day, and it seemed to make logical sense to be the first to air the official rankings, I think Radio 1 scored a huge own goal by moving the main chart broadcast to Fridays from Sundays, at least in terms of listenership, as there are so many more people who can set aside the time on a Sunday than a Friday. As someone who long-since fell out of love with the type of music that tends to make the Top 40, and in response to the very slow turnover of hits, I haven't been too concerned about missing the official chart on Friday afternoons, but had I been so, it would've been a real blow as it's just not a convenient time to listen. I do sometimes have the Big Top 40 on as background on a Sunday afternoon as despite it being of little relevance in terms of the positions, and not being 'official', I'm simply more likely to be pottering around the house and want to have something on the radio, and that presents as a convenient option. Granted, we now have podcasts and catch-ups but the whole point of a chart show surely is that is a live fresh-off-the-press broadcast; it doesn't quite have the same interest if heard a day or so later.

So in effect, all that the move served to do was shift attention away from the official chart and transfer what small listenership there was left for it over to ILR. I think in this day and age while there retains some interest in hearing a chart countdown, there's probably less concern about the specific positioning of tracks, accuracy, how official it is etc. People just want a chart rundown experience to have on, regardless of details. It's almost a tradition for some. Hence why the Big Top 40 for all its faults holds all the aces and R1 are left struggling to retrospectively-fill the Sunday void they created. An airplay chart based solely on what that station plays was never going to cut it. I suppose a 'chart update' is probably their best option for competing with the BT40, although of course it will only be an hour, not three.

It will be interesting if they present a rules-free update though, without the starrings-out etc, as per the updates that feature on MW.com during the week. I suspect they might apply the rules to the Sunday update for broadcast purposes though, as surely it would seem illogical - and undermine the reputation of the full-week official chart on Fridays - were they to air any anticipated hits on Sunday that miraculously get airbrushed from the Friday edition owing to the three-track rule? I think the less attention drawn to the artificial removal of certain songs from the official listing the better. The chief concern though has already been aired by several on this thread - given that they still seem to be without key streaming data from some of the biggest players even come Wednesdays, how complete can a Sunday update really be? To say that it will derive data from all streaming sites for the Sunday show just doesn't ring true to me, and if it is mostly made up of actual sales data without much in the way of streaming, the rankings of a Sunday will be far-removed from what they will likely be come Friday. I guess for those who would like a return to a sales-only tabulation that would provide some greater interest, but the disparity between the two Top 20s will soon become apparent.


There might be more people available to listen on a Sunday, but the Friday Chart gets more listeners than the Sunday one was getting before it ended. Something like 1.5 million vs. 1 million I believe, so that's surely been a success.

And at least it now being on both a Friday and Sunday means more exposure to the chart and helps secure its future as something that is still considered relevant.


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In fairness Ben I hadn't seen those figures. In a way I'm pleased if I'm being proven wrong on the assumption that the official chart gets few regular listeners. For all its faults now, it remains the anchor of chart broadcasts and does carry the 'official' status in a way that ILR competitors never can. Are those numbers live as it is originally broadcast or inclusive of any catch-up listens? I don't know how they compile radio ratings now. I only ask because I still struggle to see how many people who'd likely be interested in the countdown would make themselves available to hear it as it is announced. That said, I guess school kids are a fair share of the audience and they're well-home before it starts, and have in the main yet to discover the joys of the early evening Friday-nighter on the town!

For my own part as a youngster I remember I used to be pissed-off that I'd nearly-always miss the initial announcement of the new chart when it was on a Tuesday lunchtime pre-Oct '87; I was almost always at school and so had to wait for the fuller (but by the time it was aired almost redundant) Sunday show, blank cassette and forefinger at the ready!
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