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PeteFromLeeds
post Aug 6 2019, 12:27 PM
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Welcome to the World Cup of Sportspeople! With the Women's Football World Cup in full swing just finished and the Men's World Cup being a resounding success last year, we'll be following on with a tournament, not of countries, but of the sports-men and women themselves. This contest is designed to select the greatest sportspeople from each continent through a number of rounds, selecting the best of the best, and pitting them together to show who we really think is the best sportsperson of them all!

This is the Voting stage for North America. We received 109 different nominations in all - taking away our auto-qualifier, Usain Bolt, this gives us two groups of 54 players. Here's how this stage is going to work.

- You can vote for up to 25 sportspeople, but you must vote for at least 10.
- You must rank your votes in order of preference, either by numbering or by the standard Buzzjack +25, +24 ... +1 (Or down to however many you vote for)
- You must vote for sportspeople from at least three different sports
- You must vote for at least one male and one female sportsperson.
- Each sportsperson has been given a short description of their major achievements to make it easier for you to make up your mind.
- The four sportspeople with the most votes in each group will advance to the Final. The fifth-placed person with the most points across the groups will also advance, whilst the rest of the Top 10 will advance to the Intercontinental Playoffs. Everyone else will be booted out.

Andre Agassi (USA - Tennis - 8 Grand Slam titles, 60 career titles)
Curtly Ambrose (Antigua and Barbuda - Cricket - Topped ICC Player Rankings for much of his career, considered to be one of the greatest fast bowlers of all time)
Joel Campbell (Costa Rica - Football - 80 caps for Costa Rica, reached Quarter-Finals of World Cup)
Veronica Campbell-Brown (Jamaica - Athletics - 3 Olympic golds, 5 World Championship golds)
Julio Cesar Chavez (Mexico - Boxing - Won 107 of 115 fights, 86 by KO)
Shivnarine Chanderpaul (Guyana - Cricket - Captained West Indies cricket team, 8th highest Test run scorer of all time)
Brandi Chastain (USA - Football - Won Women's World Cup twice, won two Olympic golds)
Kim Collins (St Kitts & Nevis - Athletics - 2003 World Championship gold, 2002 Commonwealth gold)
Andre De Grasse (Canada - Athletics - 2016 Olympic silver, won two Pan American golds)
Allyson Felix (USA - Athletics - Six Olympic golds, 11 World Indoor Championship golds)
Debbie Ferguson (Bahamas - Athletics - 2000 Olympic gold, won two World Championship golds)
Ana Fidelia Quirot (Cuba - Athletics - 1996 Olympic silver, won two World Championship golds and 8 American games golds)
George Foreman (USA - Boxing - Won 76 of 81 fights, 68 by KO, 1968 Olympic gold)
AJ Foyt (USA - Motor Racing - Won 12 major driving championships, won IndyCar a record seven times, a record 138 USAC wins, only driver to win Le Mans/Indianapolis in the same year)
Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce (Jamaica - Athletics - Two Olympic golds, seven World Championship golds)
Joe Frazier (USA - Won 32 of 37 fights, 27 by KO, 1964 Olympic gold)
Jeff Gordon (USA - Motor Racing - 93 NASCAR cup wins, won series 4 times)
Maurice Greene (USA - Athletics - Two Olympic golds, 5 World Championship golds)
Gordon Greenidge (Barbados - Cricket - Scored 7,558 runs in 108 Test matches)
Wayne Gretsky (Canada - Ice Hockey - Leading scorer in NHL history, only player to total over 200 points in one season)
Javier Hernandez (Mexico - Football - mexico's all-time leading goalscorer, won Premier League with Manchester United)
Michael Holding (Jamaica - Cricket - Broke the record for best bowling figures in a match by a West Indies bowler)
Billie Jean King (USA - Won 12 Grand Slam titles, 129 career titles)
Allen Johnson (USA - Athletics - 1996 Olympic gold, won 4 World Championship medals)
Florence Griffith Joiner (USA - Athletics - Three Olympic golds, 1987 World Championship gold)
Brian Lara (Trinidad and Tobago - Cricket - Holds record for highest individual score in first-class cricket, shares Test record of highest number of runs in a single over in a Test match)
Ivan Lendl (USA - Tennis - 8 Grand Slam titles, 94 career titles)
Carl Lewis (USA - Athletics - 9 Olympic golds, 8 World Championship golds)
Sonny Liston (USA - Boxing - Won 50 of 54 fights)
Clive Lloyd (Guyana - Cricket - Captained West Indies between 1974 and 1985, had a run of 27 undefeated matches as captain)
Dan Marino (USA - American Football - Won 1984 NFL MVP, regarded as one of the greatest quarterbacks)
Malcolm Marshall (Barbados - Cricket - Best Test Bowling Average of anyone who has taken more than 200 wickets)
John McEnroe (USA - Tennis - Won 7 Grand Slam titles, 77 career titles)
Joe Montana (USA - American Football - NFL MVP in 1989 and 1990, had the highest passer rating five times)
Joe Namath (USA - American Football - Super Bowl III MVP, MVP twice)
Jack Nicklaus (USA - Golf - Won 18 Major Championships, 73 PGA Tour wins)
Guillermo Ochoa (Mexico - Football - Won CONACAF Gold Cup 3 times with Mexico, in four World Cup squads)
Jesse Owens (USA - Athletics - Won four Golds at the 1936 Olympics)
Arnold Palmer (USA - Golf - 7 major wins, 62 PGA tour wins)
Dwight Phillips (USA - Athletics - 2004 Olympic gold, 4 World Championship golds)
Mike Powell (USA - Athletics - Two Olympic silvers, two World Championship golds)
Sugar Ray Robinson (USA - Boxing - Won 173 of 202 fights, 108 by KO)
Andy Roddick (USA - Tennis - Won 2003 US Open, 32 career titles)
Bryan Ruiz (Costa Rica - Football - Reached quarter-finals of 2014 World Cup, scored 26 goals for Costa Rica)
Felix Sanchez (Dominican Republic - Athletics - Two Olympic golds, two World Championship golds)
Mikaela Shiffrin (USA - Skiing - Two Olympic golds, 5 World Championship golds)
Mark Spitz (USA - Swimming - Nine Olympic golds, 5 Pan American golds)
Elaine Thompson (Jamaica - Athletics - Two Olympic golds, 2015 World Championship golds)
Jacques Villeneuve (Canada - Motor Racing - Won 1997 Championship, 11 Grand Prix wins)
Gilles Villeneuve (Canada - Motor Racing - 6 Grand Prix wins, 13 podiums)
Everton Weekes (Barbados - Cricket - Eighth highest batting average of all players)
Venus Williams (USA - Tennis - Won 7 Grand Slam titles, 49 career titles)
Tonique Williams-Darling (Bahamas - Athletics - 2004 Olympic gold, 2005 World Championship gold)
Dwight Yorke (Trinidad and Tobago - Football - Set record for most goals by a non-European in the Premier League, won Premier League, FA Cup and Champions League in 1999)

The deadline is 23:59 Sunday 11th August. Get voting!
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post Aug 6 2019, 12:29 PM
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Copy-paste list without descriptions:
Andre Agassi
Curtly Ambrose
Joel Campbell
Veronica Campbell-Brown
Julio Cesar Chavez
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Brandi Chastain
Kim Collins
Andre De Grasse
Allyson Felix
Debbie Ferguson
Ana Fidelia Quirot
George Foreman
AJ Foyt
Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce
Joe Frazier
Jeff Gordon
Maurice Greene
Gordon Greenidge
Wayne Gretsky
Javier Hernandez
Michael Holding
Billie Jean King
Allen Johnson
Florence Griffith Joiner
Brian Lara
Ivan Lendl
Carl Lewis
Sonny Liston
Clive Lloyd
Dan Marino
Malcolm Marshall
John McEnroe
Joe Montana
Joe Namath
Jack Nicklaus
Guillermo Ochoa
Jesse Owens
Arnold Palmer
Dwight Phillips
Mike Powell
Sugar Ray Robinson
Andy Roddick
Bryan Ruiz
Felix Sanchez
Mikaela Shiffrin
Mark Spitz
Elaine Thompson
Jacques Villeneuve
Gilles Villeneuve
Everton Weekes
Venus Williams
Tonique Williams-Darling
Dwight Yorke
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post Aug 7 2019, 01:31 PM
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25pts - Brian Lara
24 - Jack Nicklaus
23 - Malcolm Marshall
22 - Carl Lewis
21 - Billie Jean King
20 - Everton Weekes
19 - Jesse Owens
18 - Curtly Ambrose
17 - Sugar Ray Robinson
16 - Clive Lloyd
15 - Ivan Lendl
14 - Michael Holding
13 - John McEnroe
12 - Sonny Liston
11 - Andre Agassi
10 - Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce
9 - Shivnarine Chanderpaul
8 - Allyson Felix
7 - Gordon Greenidge
6 - Wayne Gretsky
5 - Venus Williams
4 - George Foreman
3 - Mark Spitz
2 - Arnold Palmer
1 - Joe Frazier
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post Aug 7 2019, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(PeteFromLeeds @ Aug 6 2019, 01:27 PM) *
AJ Foyt (USA - Motor Racing - Won 7 NASCAR Cup races)



I hate to be picky but that's a pretty harsh major achievement description. What about his 12 major championship titles which includes 7 Indycar titles with a record 63 wins including 5 Indy 500 wins, 2 IROC championships, 2 x International Race of Champions wins and victories at Le Mans 24 hours, Daytona 500 and 24hrs and the Sebring 12hrs?

I know he's surprisingly little known over here but the man's a living legend and his record is far better than a handful of NASCAR wins.

Again I don't mean to be picky but it's slightly misleading
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post Aug 7 2019, 06:20 PM
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Updated it now, sorry about that. When I've got to write descriptions about 50+ people in a fairly short space of time then I generally go with the most prominent things on Wikipedia which means I can miss fairly important things, in his case the most prominent thing on his profile is the NASCAR wins, a few of the other things are there but they're in much smaller writing and when I've got a ton more to do I don't always have enough time to read it. Hope the new description is okay!
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QUOTE(PeteFromLeeds @ Aug 7 2019, 07:20 PM) *
Updated it now, sorry about that. When I've got to write descriptions about 50+ people in a fairly short space of time then I generally go with the most prominent things on Wikipedia which means I can miss fairly important things, in his case the most prominent thing on his profile is the NASCAR wins, a few of the other things are there but they're in much smaller writing and when I've got a ton more to do I don't always have enough time to read it. Hope the new description is okay!

Yeah of course. Like I said I didn't mean to criticise and I probably should have added that I'm really enjoying this idea, it's been excellent and you're doing a fantastic job and I appreciate it's a lot of hard work.
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25pts - Jesse Owens
24 - Carl Lewis
23 - AJ Foyt
22 - Gilles Villeneuve
21 - Mark Spitz
20 - Dan Marino
19 - Brian Lara
18 - Jeff Gordon
17 - Sonny Liston
16 - Joe Frazier
15 - George Foreman
14 - Jacques Villeneuve
13 - John McEnroe
12 - Curtly Ambrose
11 - Billie Jean King
10 - Florence Griffith Joiner
9 - Venus Williams
8 - Julio Cesar Chavez
7 - Wayne Gretsky
6 - Joe Namath
5 - Arnold Palmer
4 - Dwight Yorke
3 - Sugar Ray Robinson
2 - Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce
1 - Allen Johnson
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post Aug 9 2019, 07:46 PM
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+25 Jesse Owens
+24 Javier Hernandez
+23 AJ Foyt
+22 Mikaela Shiffrin
+21 Brian Lara
+20 Billie Jean King
+19 Dwight Yorke
+18 Andre Agassi
+17 Jeff Gordon
+16 Curtly Ambrose
+15 Allyson Felix
+14 Julio Cesar Chavez
+13 Guillermo Ochoa
+12 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce
+11 Jack Nicklaus
+10 Veronica Campbell-Brown
+9 Mark Spitz
+8 Clive Lloyd
+7 Ivan Lendl
+6 Venus Williams
+5 Carl Lewis
+4 Wayne Gretsky
+3 George Foreman
+2 John McEnroe
+1 Joel Campbell
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25+ Jack Nicklaus
24+ AJ Foyt
23+ Mark Spitz
22+ Brian Lara
21+ Ivan Lendl
20+ Billie Jean King
19+ Carl Lewis
18+ Allyson Felix
17+ Curtly Ambrose
16+ George Foreman
15+ Jeff Gordon
14+ John McEnroe
13+ Jacques Villeneuve
12+ Joe Montana
11+ Andre Agassi
10+ Julio Cesar Chavez
9+ Dan Marino
8+ Venus Williams
7+ Dwight Yorke
6+ Allen Johnson
5+ Jesse Owens
4+ Gilles Villeneuve
3+ Sugar Ray Robinson
2+ Brandi Chastain
1+ Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce
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post Aug 11 2019, 05:25 PM
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+25 Billie Jean King
+24 Mark Spitz
+23 John McEnroe
+22 Jesse Owens
+21 Venus Williams
+20 Carl Lewis
+19 Andre Agassi
+18 Joe Namath
+17 Sugar Ray Robinson
+16 Joe Frazier
+15 Jack Nicklaus
+14 Sonny Liston
+13 Ivan Lendl
+12 Brian Lara
+11 Florence Griffith Joiner
+10 George Foreman
+9 Arnold Palmer
+8 Andy Roddick
+7 Jacques Villeneuve
+6 Clive Lloyd
+5 Wayne Gretsky

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25- Brian Lara
24- Mark Spitz
23- Jack Nicklaus
22- John McEnroe
21- Joe Montana
20- Jesse Owens
19- Billie Jean King
18- Andre Agassi
17- Carl Lewis
16- Veronica Campbell-Brown
15- Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce
14- Elaine Thompson
13- Maurice Greene
12- Andy Roddick
11- AJ Foyt
10- Venus Williams
9- Gilles Villeneuve
8- Arnold Palmer
7- Allyson Felix
6- George Foreman
5- Mike Powell
4- Sugar Ray Robinson
3- Ivan Lendl
2- Joe Namath
1- Jacques Villeneuve
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RESULTS

Finalists:
Billie Jean King
Carl Lewis
Brian Lara
Jesse Owens
Mark Spitz

Advance to Playoffs:
Andre Agassi
Curtly Ambrose
AJ Foyt
Jack Nicklaus
John McEnroe


Eliminated:
(4th: 107pts)
(10th: 63pts)
59 Ivan Lendl
59 Venus Williams
54 George Foreman
50 Jeff Gordon
48 Allyson Felix
44 Sugar Ray Robinson
43 Sonny Liston
40 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce
35 Jacques Villeneuve
35 Gilles Villeneuve
33 Joe Frazier
33 Joe Montana
32 Julio Cesar Chavez
30 Dwight Yorke
30 Clive Lloyd
29 Dan Marino
26 Veronica Campbell-Brown
26 Joe Namath
24 Javier Hernandez
24 Arnold Palmer
23 Malcolm Marshall
22 Wayne Gretsky
22 Mikaela Shiffrin
21 Florence Griffith Joiner
20 Everton Weekes
20 Andy Roddick
14 Michael Holding
14 Elaine Thompson
13 Guillermo Ochoa
13 Maurice Greene
9 Shivnarine Chanderpaul
7 Gordon Greenidge
7 Allen Johnson
5 Mike Powell
2 Brandi Chastain
1 Joel Campbell


So we have five people making it through this round as the fifth-placed person in this round had 104 points compared to 101 from the previous group (which may be a tad unfair looking at how stacked Group 1 is but we've still got the playoffs!) And we also have a non-American in Brian Lara making it through!
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