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vidcapper
post Sep 26 2019, 06:05 AM
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As above.
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Harve
post Sep 26 2019, 07:15 AM
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As long as we don't get Brexit in the middle of it, yes.
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post Sep 26 2019, 07:42 AM
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Yes, let's see whether the country wants Boris or Corbyn once and for all.
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post Sep 26 2019, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Sep 26 2019, 07:42 AM) *
Yes, let's see whether the country wants Boris or Corbyn once and for all.


...until it is next required we have an election. Political outcomes aren’t permanent.

I mean, I’m good with one if the resultant Parliament can find a way out of the current situation. Most clearly by forging a path to a vote on a Brexit deal.

Therefore unsure because my support requires conditions, as with Harve, no Brexit in the middle of it or indeed anywhere near it.
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post Sep 26 2019, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Harve @ Sep 26 2019, 08:15 AM) *
As long as we don't get Brexit in the middle of it, yes.


It'd be ironic if Labour won, and then got stuck with it... laugh.gif
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post Sep 26 2019, 09:48 AM
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No. At least 80% of the focus will be on one issue and for a general election that absolutely shouldn't be the case. If there's a vote it should be on that one issue.
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post Sep 26 2019, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(RabbitFurCoat @ Sep 26 2019, 10:48 AM) *
No. At least 80% of the focus will be on one issue and for a general election that absolutely shouldn't be the case. If there's a vote it should be on that one issue.


Agreed - it is possible that it won't break the deadlock in Parliament anyway (see the Opinion Poll thread), however worth noting that the 2017 GE was predicted to be a Brexit dominated one and it was anything but in the end..
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post Sep 26 2019, 10:34 AM
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Not before the extension. If Bojo refuses, he goes to jail. If he does it, he will prove once again how he is all mouth and bad boy bluster. The second Labour call for a GE, he pushes it beyond Oct 31 and oops no deal.
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post Sep 26 2019, 07:36 PM
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Parliament should be dissolved on 1 November after an extension has been secured to Article 50. Boris cannot be trusted to comply with the law while Parliament has been dissolved.
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post Sep 26 2019, 08:11 PM
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Not whilst it can be abused to slip through a no deal
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post Sep 26 2019, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(RabbitFurCoat @ Sep 26 2019, 10:48 AM) *
No. At least 80% of the focus will be on one issue and for a general election that absolutely shouldn't be the case. If there's a vote it should be on that one issue.


Brexit will dominate us forever. If we leave there will be parties wanting to get us back in to the EU and if we don't leave there will be parties that also want us to leave again.

The General Election will literally be about Brexit. Let's have a referendum on the Deal negotiated or staying in the EU and be done with it.
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post Sep 26 2019, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Sep 26 2019, 09:13 PM) *
Brexit will dominate us forever. If we leave there will be parties wanting to get us back in to the EU and if we don't leave there will be parties that also want us to leave again.

The General Election will literally be about Brexit. Let's have a referendum on the Deal negotiated or staying in the EU and be done with it.

If we leave, governments will have to spend years renegotiating deals with the rest of the world. The only way to give future governments time to tackle the issues that led to the Leave vote is to revoke Article 50.
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post Sep 26 2019, 09:54 PM
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No, they need an extension first. At this stage trying to force an election would be yet another stalling tactic by team Boris.
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post Sep 26 2019, 10:02 PM
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NO! Not until 'no deal' is taken OFF the table! I just hope Jeremy Corbyn is sensible enough (I'm sure he's well-advised) to not be goaded into agreeing to one sooner - because that is all Boris's blustering is about - and it eats him up that Corbyn hasn't fallen for it so far!
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post Sep 27 2019, 04:29 AM
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QUOTE(Kath @ Sep 26 2019, 11:02 PM) *
NO! Not until 'no deal' is taken OFF the table! I just hope Jeremy Corbyn is sensible enough (I'm sure he's well-advised) to not be goaded into agreeing to one sooner - because that is all Boris's blustering is about - and it eats him up that Corbyn hasn't fallen for it so far!


What if No Deal is still on table in 2022, there would then *have* to be a General Election, whether Remainers like it or not...


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post Sep 27 2019, 10:59 AM
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Is that an immediate election? No? Do we know what will happen by then? What, no? Is youe post a ridiculous attempt at making a brexshit argument? Yes? Oh.
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post Oct 10 2019, 07:53 AM
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Another point that seems to have been missed is that - Labour could not force a GE if the Tories didn't cooperate since it needs 2/3's of MP's to trigger one.

IRO the no-confidence option - even if the opposition defeated the Tories, they could not muster the strength to form a majority, or even a stable coalition, so we'd shortly have to have a GE anyway.
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post Oct 10 2019, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Oct 10 2019, 08:53 AM) *
Another point that seems to have been missed is that - Labour could not force a GE if the Tories didn't cooperate since it needs 2/3's of MP's to trigger one.

IRO the no-confidence option - even if the opposition defeated the Tories, they could not muster the strength to form a majority, or even a stable coalition, so we'd shortly have to have a GE anyway.

Have you missed all the discussion over a potential interim PM?
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vidcapper
post Oct 10 2019, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Oct 10 2019, 09:01 AM) *
Have you missed all the discussion over a potential interim PM?


TBH, yes. mellow.gif
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post Oct 10 2019, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Oct 10 2019, 09:15 AM) *
TBH, yes. mellow.gif

Given that the ex-Tories and the Lib Dems have said they would not back a Corbyn-led government, various other names such as Ken Clarke, Harriet Harman and Margaret Beckett have been suggested as alternatives. The logic is that it is better to have someone who has no ambition to stay in the job in the long term and would not be aiming to win an election as PM. So far, Labour are proving reluctant to back that idea.
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