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post Sep 28 2019, 11:58 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/20...utin-zuckerberg

Look who's back: Spitting Image returns for our chaotic times

Twenty-three years after it last aired, the puppet satire takes on Trump, Putin and Zuckerberg
Esther Addley
Sat 28 Sep 2019 00.00 BSTLast modified on Sat 28 Sep 2019 07.019

‘I’ve heard other satirists say Trump is un-satirisable,’ says Spitting Image’s co-creator Roger Law. Photograph: Avalon/Mark Harrison

There was a time during its 1980s heyday when Spitting Image was watched by 15 million people each week, when it seemed as central to British political life as Margaret Thatcher’s handbag. But by the time the programme was cancelled after more than a decade, its audiences had slumped, its brand of caustic puppetry deemed dated and out of step with the national mood.

There is nothing like a global political crisis, however, to prod a satirist out of semi-retirement. Twenty-three years after it was last broadcast, Roger Law, one of the co-creators of the groundbreaking comedy, has confirmed that Spitting Image is set to return to television screens – featuring an S&M-clad Vladimir Putin, Meghan Markle wearing a glittery “princess” T-shirt and a puppet of Donald Trump whose tweets are composed by his anus.

A pilot for a new incarnation of Spitting Image has already been filmed, Law confirmed to the Guardian, and its producers are in advanced discussions with US-based networks to bring this very British brand of satire to the wider world.

After years of hopes, hints and denials, he wanted to resurrect the programme back as a “public service satire” in response to the state of the political culture, he told the Guardian, making clear he has lost none of his antiestablishment fire. “It’s pretty chaotic out there. As far as I’m concerned, it’s better than shouting at the television set, isn’t it? So I thought, let’s give it a go.”

Unlike in the 80s, however, when even obscure members of Thatcher’s cabinet were honoured with their own puppets, Law said he had not been tempted to turn his attentions to British politics’s lower league players this time around.

“Dominic Raab? You’ve got to be kidding. If you’re going to go after the b*st*rds, you may as well go after the biggest b*st*rds there are, hence America. It’s an awful lot of trouble to go to, and you want it to be effective.”

Mocking Trump, he conceded, was a challenge. “I’ve heard other satirists say that he’s un-satirisable because he’s a satire in himself. Well, with puppets you can go much, much further, because actors won’t do that for you. And by Christ, we are going to give it a go.” Their puppet Trump, he said, was “an absolute monster”.

Law, now 78, was creating plasticine caricatures with Peter Fluck for a Sunday newspaper when they were invited to devise a satirical puppet-based programme, which would go on to be steered by the legendary comedy producer John Lloyd. It debuted on ITV in 1984, just as Thatcher was hitting her stride after a second general election victory, and quickly became established as an essential part of the political and cultural conversation.

Scripts were hastily written, and even new puppets made, with only days’ notice to ensure each week’s episode was as topical as possible. And though some of Spitting Image’s comedy has inevitably dated, in many cases – from its mannish, domineering Thatcher to its doddery Ronald Reagan, prodding his nuclear button, to its monotone John Major, painted entirely grey – its puppets’ characteristics came to define their real-life counterparts in the public mind.

Since the programme’s cancellation in 1996, Law has been working as a fine artist. Has he missed it? “I can’t say I have. It’s a pig of a show to do. But I think the current situation warrants the effort.”

The British production company Avalon, which also makes Last Week Tonight with John Oliver for HBO and was behind the hugely successful Catastrophe, hopes to write the new series in the US and film it in Britain. Its show-runner, Jeff Westbrook, a former writer on The Simpsons and Futurama, said the programme was ripe for a return since “today’s world does seem to have an especially large number of evil goofballs who deserve taking down”.

As for exporting Spitting Image to a global audience, he said: “It’s true that Britain has a special tradition of caricature and satire, but I think that audiences around the world are sophisticated enough to enjoy it. If not, we can also put in some puppets bonking heads with a coconut sound.”

Law insisted puppetry still has an important place in the age of CGI. “Puppetry brings a sort of violence and reality, and energy to the screen. You must have been to the cinema to see these crash bang wallop films, and they bore you. [But] there’s nothing like a puppet punching a puppet.”
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post Sep 28 2019, 02:06 PM
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Spitting Image was one of the most scathing and on-the-knuckle satirical shows ever made in the UK (even more surprising that it was made by ITV). Every so many years there's a new show that is supposedly going to be "the new Spitting Image" that has fallen flat on its face (Headcases, Newzoids), so it was only a matter of time before the original came back. I doubt it'll be as cruel as the original, but we will see how it turns out.

Just found a clip of the show from the early 90s that is incredibly prescient (John Major aside):

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post Sep 28 2019, 02:25 PM
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And, of course, there was the number one single...

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post Sep 30 2019, 12:13 PM
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These actually had an impact on the publics perception of politicans. If they saw Thatcher on a Sunday evening bashing her cabinet with a handbag they would believe she was a strong leader.

My fav part was Thatcher in a restaurant taking an order for herself and the cabinet:

Waiter: So Mam, what can I get for you?

Thatcher: The Steak please, rare.

Waiter: And what about the vegetables?

Thatcher: They'll have the same....
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post Sep 30 2019, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Sep 30 2019, 01:13 PM) *
These actually had an impact on the publics perception of politicans. If they saw Thatcher on a Sunday evening bashing her cabinet with a handbag they would believe she was a strong leader.

My fav part was Thatcher in a restaurant taking an order for herself and the cabinet:

Waiter: So Mam, what can I get for you?

Thatcher: The Steak please, rare.

Waiter: And what about the vegetables?

Thatcher: They'll have the same....

That's one of the most-remembered sketches, but it wasn't original. I had seen the same joke somewhere before several months before it appeared on Spitting Image.
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post Sep 30 2019, 04:23 PM
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I would say it had the desired effect laugh.gif
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post Sep 11 2020, 12:15 PM
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Launches on BritBox on October 3rd, and they've released some images of some of the puppets -



Michael Gove is suitably grotesque (note the cocaine around the nose, which looks like a willy). Their Dominic Raab looks somewhat flattering to some extent. They've released the list of puppets, some of which are certain to cause a lot of controversy from all sides. I don't think it'll be as cruel as the original, but I think it will be as close to the knuckle as satire can go in 2020.
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The writing team also looks pretty great, including the co-creator of Futurama, plus people who've written for The Simpsons and people like Richard Herring, Al Murray & Matt Forde. Some of the voice talent are US-based, which means that it's likely to be trying to appeal to the US market as well as the British one. Hopefully this means that the revival is in safe hands.
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post Sep 11 2020, 12:23 PM
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100+ puppets have been made so far.

They include: Adele, Boris Baby, Baby Yoda, Barack Obama, Chrissy Teigen, Covid-19 (YES REALLY), Harry Styles, Greta Thunberg, James Corden, Kanye West, Ivanka Trump, Jacinda Arden, Matt Hancock, Michelle Obama, Prince Andrew and RuPaul.

Can't wait for Harry Styles... poor JosephStyles heehee.gif
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I really wanna watch this, I do wish it wasn't on Britbox though, I don't care enough to get a subscription to that.
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post Sep 11 2020, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Sep 11 2020, 01:39 PM) *
I really wanna watch this, I do wish it wasn't on Britbox though, I don't care enough to get a subscription to that.



Get a month's free trial then cancel. I may do that! laugh.gif
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I spat out my tea laughing at this one -

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post Sep 23 2020, 09:07 AM
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Full trailer out now:



I laughed quite a bit at the Billie Eilish part laugh.gif
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post Sep 24 2020, 05:24 PM
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Looks really good

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post Oct 3 2020, 08:20 PM
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Anyone know how I can watch it when I don't subscribe to Britbox? Won't let me just sign up for a month. Not on YT. They keep taking it down.
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Nowhere legally other than Britbox, though there are highlights on their official YouTube channel or you can use some dodgy websites lol
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They DRAGGED the UK and US government and I loved every second laugh.gif
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post Oct 4 2020, 01:44 AM
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Where do you download brithox from and how much is it?
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Oct 4 2020, 02:44 AM) *
Where do you download brithox from and how much is it?



Their website and it's about £7.99 a month.
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Love the clip on YT with Gove in Mistress Patel's boudoir. PMSL.
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