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Doctor Blind
post Tuesday, 07:23 AM
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https://voteforpolicies.org.uk

As in 2015 and 2017 the Vote for Policies site is now running. For those unfamiliar with this, it allows you to select from 15 policy areas that are most important to you - then shows you in no particular order the manifesto policies from some of the main parties standing in your part of the UK. What I like about it most is that it removes the biases or preconceptions that you may or may not be aware of, and allows you to pick only policies that you agree with (whatever the party that is putting them forward) to then allow you to judge the parties on the policies they are proposing and nothing else.

I'd be interested to see what results people get.
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post Tuesday, 07:39 AM
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My results :

Brexit
Brexit Party

Crime
Conservatives

Economy
Conservatives

Health / NHS
Green Party

Immigration
Conservatives

But I'm *still* not voting for the Tories!
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post Tuesday, 07:43 AM
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I'm interested that you got Green Party for Health/NHS Vid- as I got the same!

Economy
Labour

Education
Labour

Environment
Green Party

Equalities & Rights
Labour

Health / NHS
Green Party

Housing
Liberal Democrats

Jobs / Work
Labour

Transport
Green Party
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post Tuesday, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE(Doctor Bitch @ Dec 3 2019, 07:43 AM) *
I'm interested that you got Green Party for Health/NHS Vid- as I got the same!


It surprised me too! smile.gif
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post Tuesday, 07:58 AM
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I'm all over the board on this, with the policies I most match with (in England, NI isn't available) being Conservative & Lib Dem. Of course, most people will vote based upon their emotional connection to the party & their policies, and those who were familiar with the manifestos might already know what their preferred party's policies are before starting, so always take these with a pinch of salt:

Brexit
Liberal Democrats

Crime
Labour

Democracy
Brexit Party

Economy
Conservatives

Education
Conservatives

Foreign Policy / Defence
Liberal Democrats

Health / NHS
Brexit Party

Housing
Labour

Immigration
Liberal Democrats

Jobs / Work
Conservatives

Tax
Labour

Transport
Liberal Democrats
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Even though I went with the Greens on the Environment (their flagship policy of course) I really don't agree with their position on nuclear energy. To me its just ludicrous to propose that we can meet our energy needs without nuclear providing a background level - if you have stagnant high pressure meaning light winds and often low solar if cloudy or in mid-winter then what renewables are you using to power energy demand? It's a shame that Energy was not one of the policy areas and just tied in with environment.
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QUOTE(Doctor Bitch @ Dec 3 2019, 08:06 AM) *
Even though I went with the Greens on the Environment (their flagship policy of course) I really don't agree with their position on nuclear energy. To me its just ludicrous to propose that we can meet our energy needs without nuclear providing a background level - if you have stagnant high pressure meaning light winds and often low solar if cloudy or in mid-winter then what renewables are you using to power energy demand? It's a shame that Energy was not one of the policy areas and just tied in with environment.

The holy grail here is surely tidal energy - 100% predictable, 100% reliable. If that energy can be harnessed efficiently, that will be a big help!
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My overall experience with this was that there were on most issues two or three sets of policies that I agreed with and had trouble choosing between and looking them up, it's almost always Labour, Green and Lib Dem.

Nevertheless:

Brexit
Lib Dems

Economy
Labour

Education
Lib Dems

Equalities
Lib Dems

Foreign Policy
Greens

Immigration
Greens

Tax
Labour

Work
Greens

Transport
Greens

Welfare
Labour

In many cases the Green policy was the best one for simply having no downsides, by which I mean authoritarian leanings, I know that when I'm choosing things like this I'm very anti-authoritarian on impulse.
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 3 2019, 08:22 AM) *
The holy grail here is surely tidal energy - 100% predictable, 100% reliable. If that energy can be harnessed efficiently, that will be a big help!


Indeed. The most recent project was cancelled by the Government because as covered extensively by the Eye's 'Old Sparky' over recent years its electricity output is very predictable but unfortunately, like the weather, usage is not always (despite the National Grid using the Radio Times to predict when we'll be putting the kettle on across the UK) and the cost per MWh because of storage etc. was something ridiculous like £168/MWh - well over 3 times the current market rate, and even higher than the much ridiculed proposed price per MWh for the currently under construction Hinkley Point C nuclear power station.
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B****t
Lib Dem

Economy
Green

Environment
Green

Foreign Policy / Defence
Green

Welfare / Pensions
Lib Dem

Democracy
Lib Dem

Education
Green

Equality / Rights
Labour

Health / NHS
Lib Dem

Transport
Labour
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A mash up of Green/Labour/Lib Dems for me. There were quite a few times where I liked multiple policies and was difficult to choose, or I liked bits of a bunch of policies but not any one whole policy.

Brexit
Liberal Democrats

Crime
Green Party

Democracy
Green Party

Economy
Labour

Education
Green Party

Environment
Labour

Equalities & Rights
Green Party

Foreign Policy / Defence
Green Party

Health / NHS
Liberal Democrats

Housing
Labour

Immigration
Liberal Democrats

Jobs / Work
Labour

Tax
Liberal Democrats

Transport
Liberal Democrats

Welfare & Pensions
Liberal Democrats
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I got:

Brexit: Brexit Party
Crime: Labour
Democracy: Labour
Economy: Labour
Education: Labour
Environment: Greens
Equalities & Rights: Labour
Foreign Policy: Labour
Health: Labour
Housing: Labour
Immigration: Labour
Jobs: Labour
Tax: Labour
Transport: Greens
Welfare: Labour


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I may have got wildly different results for this on a different day as I was going through it pretty quickly and I thought for most if not all of the questions there were 2 or 3 almost equally agreeable answers, but as it were on this particular night:

Brexit: Labour - I obviously knew this was Labour's policy already as it's been plastered all over the news for months so this was a more informed choice than the rest but still x
Crime: Green
Democracy: Brexit Party (!) - tbf electoral reform is pretty much the one thing that UKIP/BXP has a point on (as much as it's hilarious that UKIP got 1 seat on 12% of the vote in 2015 that really shouldn't be a thing that's possible) so ok, that's not as concerning as if I'd got them on any of the other issues
Economy: Labour
Education: Labour
Environment: Green - seems about right (although I agree with what Doctor Blind said about this as well)
Equalities & Rights: Labour
Foreign Policy / Defence: Green
Health / NHS: Labour
Housing: Labour
Immigration: Green
Jobs / Work: Green
Tax: Labour
Transport: Liberal Democrats
Welfare & Pensions: Labour

An even ish split for Labour and Green (slightly more leaning to the former) with a token LD (I'm surprised there was only one of those as I would guess I was wavering between Labour/Green/LD for most of these questions) and nothing for the Tories which nicely doesn't challenge my existing feelings about my political alignment.

I think it'd be better if the site asked you to rank the policies rather than just pick a favourite (although maybe that's just my Brexit Party esque anti FPTP crusading coming out).
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Indeed, it would be better with ranked, I did know some of the policies and there are further considerations on which you think are best based on idealism or not, I chose LDs for Brexit because it's closest to my position, my personal red line is the continuation of freedom of movement, but I have defended Labour's Brexit policy because I consider it the best realistic possibility as of the current political climate.
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QUOTE(Michael Bubré @ Dec 4 2019, 01:42 AM) *
I was going through it pretty quickly and I thought for most if not all of the questions there were 2 or 3 almost equally agreeable answers


I'm the same — there were a few where I would have been happy with either, but I found myself choosing the most idealistic choice.

Brexit Labour
Crime Green Party
Democracy Labour
Economy Green Party
Education Green Party
Environment Green Party
Equalities & Rights Green Party
Foreign Policy / Defence Green Party
Health / NHS Liberal Democrats
Housing Labour
Immigration Green Party
Jobs / Work Labour
Tax Labour
Transport Green Party
Welfare & Pensions Labour
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post Yesterday, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE(Tones and Iz @ Dec 3 2019, 08:23 AM) *
My overall experience with this was that there were on most issues two or three sets of policies that I agreed with and had trouble choosing between


I found that, too.

It seems that this forum knows our policy packages pretty well, as I don't think any of us accidentally picked the 'wrong' parties policies. smile.gif


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Voting in Scotland gifted me a different set of responses to play with compared to y’all. Especially on democracy.

I came out at 33.3% SNP, 33.3% Scottish Greens, 26.7% LibDem and 6.7% Labour. 0 Tory or Brexit here.


SNP for: Brexit, Democracy, Education, Health/NHS, Jobs/Work
ScotGreens for: Immigration, Tax, Welfare & Pensions, Economy, Foreign Policy/Defence
LibDem for: Equalities & Rights (the only summary that included folks with disabilities), Crime, Environment, Housing
Labour for Transport (HS2 to Scotland and full electrification of the railways)

There was a few choices that could have gone a different way quite easily.
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