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Brett-Butler
post Dec 15 2019, 04:04 PM
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It's probably a lot less of a concern than the hunt for a new Labour Party leader, but with Jo Swinson's defeat, there is a vacancy for a new leader of the Liberal Democrats. With the requirement of the new leader to be an MP, there are only a maximum of 11 potential people who could take on the mantle.

So who do you think should be the new leader of the Lib Dems, and who do you think will get the nod? At this point, they've absolutely nothing to lose by making Tim Farron leader again...
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post Dec 15 2019, 04:07 PM
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Voted Ed Davey. Surely it'll be him or Layla. Never heard of Wera!
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post Dec 15 2019, 04:10 PM
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Hobhouse was briefly my local MP during the latter end of being at uni. Supporting her for that reason alone. x

They should really consider changing the rule requiring the leader to be an MP, it's very slim pickings these days...
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post Dec 15 2019, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(Michael Bubré @ Dec 15 2019, 04:10 PM) *
Hobhouse was briefly my local MP during the latter end of being at uni. Supporting her for that reason alone. x

They should really consider changing the rule requiring the leader to be an MP, it's very slim pickings these days...

It was considered earlier this year - and rejected. I think it may be possible for a member of the Lords to be leader but I haven’t checked. Sal Brinton is one of the two current interim co-leaders. She would be an interesting choice although Labour would attack her for being the daughter of a former Tory MP. If she became leader, the parliamentary party would presumably choose someone to lead the party in the Commons.

My current preference would be Layla Moran. Do any of our Scottish members know the law on domestic violence north of the border? Moran and her then partner were arrested some years ago as a result of a row they were having. My understanding is that they would not have been arrested in England. My specific question is whether Johnson would have been arrested if his row with his current girlfriend had happened in Scotland.
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post Dec 15 2019, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Michael Bubré @ Dec 15 2019, 04:10 PM) *
Hobhouse was briefly my local MP during the latter end of being at uni. Supporting her for that reason alone. x

They should really consider changing the rule requiring the leader to be an MP, it's very slim pickings these days...



No I don't agree unless they lose even more seats. How would he or she ask any questions to the PM at PMQ's?
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post Dec 15 2019, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 15 2019, 04:42 PM) *
No I don't agree unless they lose even more seats. How would he or she ask any questions to the PM at PMQ's?


The same way as the SNP do. They could still have a Commons leader.
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post Dec 15 2019, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 15 2019, 04:41 PM) *
It was considered earlier this year - and rejected. I think it may be possible for a member of the Lords to be leader but I haven’t checked. Sal Brinton is one of the two current interim co-leaders. She would be an interesting choice although Labour would attack her for being the daughter of a former Tory MP. If she became leader, the parliamentary party would presumably choose someone to lead the party in the Commons.

My current preference would be Layla Moran. Do any of our Scottish members know the law on domestic violence north of the border? Moran and her then partner were arrested some years ago as a result of a row they were having. My understanding is that they would not have been arrested in England. My specific question is whether Johnson would have been arrested if his row with his current girlfriend had happened in Scotland.

I've checked the constitution now.

The leader DOES have to be an MP. The constitution also states that the deputy leader (Ed Davey) and party president (Sal Brinton) automatically become interim co-leaders if the leader resigns.
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post Dec 15 2019, 05:44 PM
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I picked Layla Moran myself but hope they stay with a low vote share for the foreeeable.
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(Michael Bubré @ Dec 15 2019, 04:51 PM) *
The same way as the SNP do. They could still have a Commons leader.



Oh yes, forgot that.
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:12 PM
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A lot of people were saying that the leader/PM bounce would save Boris but the leader bounce couldn't save Jo could it. Strange that.
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:12 PM
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It's not that strange because Scotland is a different political landscape and the snp were pushing hard throughout the country.
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:19 PM
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What a SHAME it won't be Chuka Umunna, and after all the hours of coverage that he had during the election campaign giving his incredible insightful and valuable opinion at us every minute of every hour 24/7. I'm totally devastated about his loss in Westminster, so was he- he didn't bother to turn up for the count.

Anyway, my pick would be Layla Moran. I think surely Ed Davey has too much baggage anyway (association with the coalition etc.)
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 15 2019, 06:12 PM) *
A lot of people were saying that the leader/PM bounce would save Boris but the leader bounce couldn't save Jo could it. Strange that.

None of the party leaders seemed to benefit from that this year.
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Dec 15 2019, 06:19 PM) *
What a SHAME it won't be Chuka Umunna, and after all the hours of coverage that he had during the election campaign giving his incredible insightful and valuable opinion at us every minute of every hour 24/7. I'm totally devastated about his loss in Westminster, so was he- he didn't bother to turn up for the count.

Anyway, my pick would be Layla Moran. I think surely Ed Davey has too much baggage anyway (association with the coalition etc.)

Eh? Most television coverage barely even mentioned the existence of any party other than Labour or Tory. Even the usual love-in with Farage wasn't as bad as normal
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Dec 15 2019, 06:19 PM) *
What a SHAME it won't be Chuka Umunna, and after all the hours of coverage that he had during the election campaign giving his incredible insightful and valuable opinion at us every minute of every hour 24/7. I'm totally devastated about his loss in Westminster, so was he- he didn't bother to turn up for the count.



Am not sure Chukka would have got it even if he'd kept his seat. Why should someone who's just defected from another party only weeks ago be leader when others have put a lifetime of work in to the party? Am sure others would think the same.
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 15 2019, 06:21 PM) *
Eh? Most television coverage barely even mentioned the existence of any party other than Labour or Tory. Even the usual love-in with Farage wasn't as bad as normal


I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying it felt like Chuka Umunna was always on this past year - not that he really cared what party he was in at the time (or could remember even). Just talking about himself mostly!
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Dec 15 2019, 06:24 PM) *
I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying it felt like Chuka Umunna was always on this past year - not that he really cared what party he was in at the time (or could remember even). Just talking about himself mostly!



The Dr. is right. Chukka's been on the box a lot over the past few months.Turning up everywhere. Bet he never turned down an invitation.
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post Dec 15 2019, 06:33 PM
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By the way, was Swinson the shortest serving leader of any of the three main parties? I can't think of anyone serving less in recent times.
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post Jan 3 2020, 11:14 AM
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Layla Moran has announced that she is in a relationship with another woman. This seems to be a case of getting the story out on her own terms before she announces her leadership bid.
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post Jan 6 2020, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 15 2019, 05:41 PM) *
Do any of our Scottish members know the law on domestic violence north of the border? Moran and her then partner were arrested some years ago as a result of a row they were having. My understanding is that they would not have been arrested in England. My specific question is whether Johnson would have been arrested if his row with his current girlfriend had happened in Scotland.

Under the truly wonderful new Domestic Abuse law, potentially. However I think it’s more likely that he would have been, and Moran & Partner, arrested for Breach of the Peace which unlike in the rest of the UK is a criminal offence in Scotland that people are in court every day for.

Some info on our fab new domestic abuse law below

https://www.scottishwomensrightscentre.org....stic-abuse-law/

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-42890990

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 3 2020, 12:14 PM) *
Layla Moran has announced that she is in a relationship with another woman. This seems to be a case of getting the story out on her own terms before she announces her leadership bid.

Indeed! She came out as Pansexual, it’s be fantastic to see a pan leader of a mainstream political party.
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