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post Jan 17 2020, 06:26 AM
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I see the Irish GE is to be held on a Saturday this year, so that prompted the above question.
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post Jan 17 2020, 08:16 AM
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I have been arguing for elections to be held on a Sunday for many years. It would mean no schools having to close on polling day and the polls could probably close at 8pm instead of 10.
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post Jan 17 2020, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 17 2020, 08:16 AM) *
I have been arguing for elections to be held on a Sunday for many years. It would mean no schools having to close on polling day and the polls could probably close at 8pm instead of 10.


I can imagine the time change would be quite a problem, no matter how clear to tried to make it - lots of angry people turning up late, etc!
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post Jan 17 2020, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 17 2020, 08:16 AM) *
I have been arguing for elections to be held on a Sunday for many years. It would mean no schools having to close on polling day and the polls could probably close at 8pm instead of 10.



Agree totally.
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post Jan 17 2020, 11:34 AM
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I think there's a lot more about the election systen than just the day that needs change or at least an update laugh.gif
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post Jan 17 2020, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(*Tim @ Jan 17 2020, 11:34 AM) *
I think there's a lot more about the election systen than just the day that needs change or at least an update laugh.gif

Very true, but a change to weekend voting is just about the only positive reform even vaguely possible under this government.
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post Jan 17 2020, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 17 2020, 08:16 AM) *
I have been arguing for elections to be held on a Sunday for many years. It would mean no schools having to close on polling day and the polls could probably close at 8pm instead of 10.


Why would the polls closing earlier be a good thing??
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post Jan 17 2020, 01:11 PM
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Yes a Sunday but no to polls closing later, there are still people working on Sundays. Although now I say that I've argued myself into making it Saturday and opening the way for a load of result parties.
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post Jan 17 2020, 01:25 PM
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People in NI would likely complain about a Sunday election for religious reasons 😴, all the better for keeping the Free Ps out I guess 😀.

Last time Ireland had a Saturday GE was in Dec 1918 when SF won 73 seats, I'd say they would take that this time again lol. They'd be happy with 20 seats this time!!
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post Jan 17 2020, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Jan 17 2020, 01:25 PM) *
People in NI would likely complain about a Sunday election for religious reasons 😴, all the better for keeping the Free Ps out I guess 😀.

Last time Ireland had a Saturday GE was in Dec 1918 when SF won 73 seats, I'd say they would take that this time again lol. They'd be happy with 20 seats this time!!

No doubt some people would complain on those grounds, but Italy is a far more religious country than the UK and they vote on Sundays.
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post Jan 17 2020, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jan 17 2020, 01:11 PM) *
Yes a Sunday but no to polls closing later, there are still people working on Sundays. Although now I say that I've argued myself into making it Saturday and opening the way for a load of result parties.

Yes, there are people who work on Sunday, but how many of them would be unable to vote between 7am and 8pm? If absolutely necessary, they can vote by post - as, for that matter, can people who object to voting on Sunday.
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post Jan 18 2020, 11:29 AM
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Even Germany votes on a Sunday. A country where shops can open 6 sundays per annum and itís against federal law to work on Sundays any other Sunday of the year (or every Sunday if you donít work retail)


If we must make it a week day then it should be a mandatory public holiday
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post Jan 18 2020, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas FrÝkner @ Jan 18 2020, 11:29 AM) *
Even Germany votes on a Sunday. A country where shops can open 6 sundays per annum and itís against federal law to work on Sundays any other Sunday of the year (or every Sunday if you donít work retail)


I'm surprised the EU allows that.
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post Jan 18 2020, 02:22 PM
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The EU doesnít have any input on retail opening hours. Opening hours donít have any relation to the integrity of the single market and so itís outwith their competence
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post Jan 18 2020, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 18 2020, 01:21 PM) *
I'm surprised the EU allows that.


Brexiter in an "I didn't know the EU worked like that!" ignorance SHOCKER!
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post Jan 18 2020, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(Auld Lang Peen @ Jan 18 2020, 02:31 PM) *
Brexiter in an "I didn't know the EU worked like that!" ignorance SHOCKER!


Are you arguing they *don't* seek to standardize everything?

They've been slowly grabbing more power over the years, imo Remainers either don't notice that, or choose to ignore it.
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post Jan 18 2020, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 18 2020, 02:39 PM) *
Are you arguing they *don't* seek to standardize everything?

They've been slowly grabbing more power over the years, imo Remainers either don't notice that, or choose to ignore it.

They seek to standardise where it affects the single market. That's how markets tend to work. OTOH, they make no attempt to set standards where they have no bearing on the operation of the single market. Seems simple enough to me.
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post Jan 18 2020, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 18 2020, 02:48 PM) *
They seek to standardise where it affects the single market. That's how markets tend to work. OTOH, they make no attempt to set standards where they have no bearing on the operation of the single market. Seems simple enough to me.


But they never stop seeking to expand their powers - that's one of the main reasons I voted out!
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post Jan 18 2020, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 18 2020, 02:39 PM) *
Are you arguing they *don't* seek to standardize everything?

They've been slowly grabbing more power over the years, imo Remainers either don't notice that, or choose to ignore it.


How can they grab more power when they mainly deal with trade? laugh.gif It's standardisation of trade. That's it. It's funny how only brexiters and those of the authoritarian hard right on the continent have "noticed" this power grab! But it wasn't a power grab when the Brexshit lot started screaming for Ireland to leave the EU "to respect the vote!!" (The 50 50 vote lol).
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post Jan 18 2020, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 18 2020, 02:57 PM) *
But they never stop seeking to expand their powers - that's one of the main reasons I voted out!

Why do you still struggle with the concept of the veto? Why do you still not understand that "the EU" cannot do anything without going through a lengthy process involving all member states?
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