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Crazy Chris
post Feb 10 2020, 12:06 AM
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From BBC News.

Boris Johnson is expected to revive plans to build a £20 billion bridge linking Scotland and Northern Ireland.

The Prime Minister is due to receive the results of a study into the project which could be based on the bridge between Sweden and Denmark.

A 20-mile crossing linking Portpatrick in Scotland and Larne in County Antrim has been on the drawing board for some time and would be flagged as one of a series of grand infrastructure projects that Mr Johnson is putting at the heart of his premiership.

Mr Johnson is also expected to give the go-ahead this week to the HS2 rail link, and is under pressure to approve the expansion of Heathrow Airport, despite his long-held opposition.

Critics have described the Scotland-Northern Ireland bridge as a waste of public money, and the Scottish Government has raised questions about the economic benefits.

The Prime Minister believes it would help to cement the Union, another reason for the Scottish government to oppose it.

Professor Alan Dunlop, a fellow of the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland, supported Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar who backed the idea at the end of last year.

To give some kind of perspective, the structure spanning the greatest expanse of open sea is the 22.4-mile Hangzhou Bay Bridge in China.

The world’s longest bridge, also in China, is the 102-mile Danyang-Kunshan Grand Bridge on the Beijing-Shanghai railway.

There is speculation that approval for HS2 will be given for the London-Birmingham link, with the section to the north of England approved in principle, pending further analysis of costs and whether alternative improvements in existing routes would be a preferred solution.

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post Feb 10 2020, 12:08 AM
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What do you think? Wonder if it would get enough traffic though. A bridge between England and Ireland, even at it's closest two points, would get far far more traffic, but is apparently out of the question due to the distance and huge cost involved.

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post Feb 10 2020, 12:09 AM
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I don't think this will happen, largely because by the time it is finished, neither side of the bridge will be in the United Kingdom.
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Feb 10 2020, 12:09 AM) *
I don't think this will happen, largely because by the time it is finished, neither side of the bridge will be in the United Kingdom.



Fair point.
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post Feb 10 2020, 12:20 AM
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A ridiculous proposition.
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post Feb 10 2020, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(A Capella Sally @ Feb 10 2020, 12:20 AM) *
A ridiculous proposition.




Why Michael? I remember in the 60's, 70's, 80's we used to go over from Liverpool to Dublin on the car ferry, taking 12 hours, overnight. A bridge taking half the time would have been great.


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post Feb 10 2020, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(A Capella Sally @ Feb 10 2020, 12:20 AM) *
A ridiculous proposition.


Difficult/expensive perhaps, but 'ridiculous'?
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post Feb 10 2020, 07:01 AM
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As if a random bridge would do anything for support for the union. Queensferry crossing hasn’t done anything for the independence movement. And this would be built in a Tory & no voting area anyway.

Have any of these “journalists” or anyone at No 10 even spoken to a Scottish person before. Eejits.



Practically, while that may the narrowest point between the two islands, Portpatrick is still a good 90-120+ minutes from civilisation and there would be at least another 2+bn in infrastructure works on the mainland alone to connect this bridge. The M74 is like at least an hour away and the A75 and A77 to Stranraer aren’t exactly great roads. No road in D&G is capable of handling the traffic flow that would be required for this to be viable.


This is a daft idea. (Although one i believe the Scottish government aren’t actually opposed to as long as they ain’t paying)
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post Feb 10 2020, 02:50 PM
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This is Johnson’s version of Trump’s wall - something physical that can act as legacy for their ego.

Interested as to which magic money tree they are using this time.
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Feb 10 2020, 05:50 PM) *
This is Johnson’s version of Trump’s wall - something physical that can act as legacy for their ego.

Interested as to which magic money tree they are using this time.

EU?~
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post Feb 10 2020, 04:04 PM
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Is it quicker to take a boat ride? And cheaper, instead of wasting money which could be needed on other worthwhile projects. eejit
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post Feb 10 2020, 06:25 PM
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I can't see it'll get the traffic needed to pay for it. How any people from England will drive or travel up to Scotland to go cross over and then travel down to wherever they want to go in Ireland? Maybe some Scots may use it.

Also just read that it would be over an area full of WWII land-mines on and in the seabed so those would all need to be cleared and the sea bed checked over the entire length before any work could begin on the bridge, costing many millions more.


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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Feb 10 2020, 01:23 AM) *
Why Michael? I remember in the 60's, 70's, 80's we used to go over from Liverpool to Dublin on the car ferry, taking 12 hours, overnight. A bridge taking half the time would have been great.



QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Feb 10 2020, 07:25 PM) *
I can't see it'll get the traffic needed to pay for it. How any people from England will drive or travel up to Scotland to go cross over and then travel down to wherever they want to go in Ireland? Maybe some Scots may use it.

Also just read that it would be over an area full of WWII land-mines on and in the seabed so those would all need to be cleared and the sea bed checked over the entire length before any work could begin on the bridge, costing many millions more.


18 hours apart.
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post Feb 10 2020, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(Silas EU Later @ Feb 10 2020, 07:23 PM) *
18 hours apart.

There's nothing wrong with someone changing their mind as further facts emerge. Of course, they could at least acknowledge having done so.
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post Feb 10 2020, 07:47 PM
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No way for me!!

They won't even build a bridge in my constituency between County Down and Carlingford in County Louth ffs!
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