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post Sep 1 2020, 06:32 AM
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This is the Spotify chart and general streaming thread for September 2020, the go-to topic for the discussion of Spotify playlists and charts alongside discussion of other streaming services' charts such as Apple & Amazon!

Spotify FAQs

What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming?

For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread.

How do I see today's Spotify chart?

To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. The desktop top 50 may update before anything else so is always worth checking if the website is not up to date. However recently it has been known to not to do (even when the website has), so do check all sources. Also note that the Spotify Website will update before external websites (Kworb, LivePopBars). Occasionally there will be a delay in the Spotify chart updating which could even take days.

Useful web links:

Spotify App [top 50]
Spotify Website [top 200]
Kworb [top 200 and extra data]
LivePopBars [top 200]
SponOnTrack [top 200]

Hot playlist links:



How often does the chart update?

It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although this is not 100% guaranteed. Sometimes the top 200 on the website will update but without the top 50 on the app updating, and sometimes there will be no update at all.

How many plays on Spotify equals one download sale?

100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. (Spotify will let you play a song on repeat 600 times if you really want to).

The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread. For information on what songs are currently on ACR and what songs will be moving to ACR, refer to this thread.

How much does Spotify contribute to the chart?

Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole, although the #1 still can be decided by who has better paid-for sales. Spotify counts for a good chunk of streaming sales (although it appears to be losing some market share as Apple Music and Amazon Music gain in popularity), so doing well on Spotify is essential for doing well in the chart.

Why is my fave not doing well on Spotify?

Is it being promoted on one of Spotify's major curated playlists? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists, with over a million followers. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist.

Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes.

My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping?

Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped artists/releases such as Justin Bieber/Ed Sheeran/Drake who will of course enter straight at the top.

What do the numbers mean?

The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day.

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post Sep 1 2020, 11:06 AM
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That DJ 4rain thing is #9 today! DeadBanana.gif
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post Sep 1 2020, 11:06 AM
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Dj 4rain is up to #9 with his fake streams. Wtf
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post Sep 1 2020, 11:29 AM
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and with more than 250,000 streams biggrin.gif

Tik Tok at #48
Labrinth #52

there is also these newies:
110 Soleil se leve by Offeno
143 Lets Link by WhoHeem

Offeno seems fake but WhoHeem is on Apple too so that should be legit
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post Sep 1 2020, 11:34 AM
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Dj 4rain at number nine rotf.gif

That's surely the most successful fake streaming track to date?!
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post Sep 1 2020, 11:36 AM
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"Mood" jumped more than 500K streams WW from Saturday to Sunday, RARE as hell, this is gonna be so big. Already number 3 WW, and gained 25K in the UK while WAP and H&H lost streams since yesterday.

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post Sep 1 2020, 11:56 AM
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DeadBanana.gif not these fake streams getting out of hand to this extent.
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post Sep 1 2020, 12:02 PM
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Sad that RoM couldn't climb in the UK, it had big increase in the US after the VMAs.
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post Sep 1 2020, 12:05 PM
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I'm not sure the VMAs ever have a particularly noticeable effect here?

Just seen that 24kGoldn reduced the gap with Cardi by ~36k today - seems possible that he could actually get #1 some time this week indeed.
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Calvin and The Weeknd down to 45. Looks like it'll spend only 4 days in top 50. Who would've thought.
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post Sep 1 2020, 02:31 PM
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Come on Dj 4rain! I wonder if it could actually make the chart if it isn't stopped?

Oh my god he's actually posting about it laugh.gif

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He's gonna be gutted that he isn't in the midweek top 100 update laugh.gif

I do wonder how far this could get though if it's managed to get this high already.
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He has over 700k followers on Instagram? *_*
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It would certainly be an interesting exercise in how many passive plays come from the Spotify chart playlist if it's ever revealed how many plays are genuine!

It's awful although it actually sounds like the sort of song that could have been the bassline of a vocal hit maybe 5-7 years ago, has a sort of early '10s Diplo meets Baauer sound to it.
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QUOTE(Bré @ Sep 1 2020, 03:34 PM) *
He has over 700k followers on Instagram? *_*

I'm almost certain most of them will be bots as well laugh.gif
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His Twitter account was deleted at some point in the last seven days but according to the cached page on Google his account had 309 followers biggrin.gif
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post Sep 1 2020, 02:40 PM
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so he thinks his streams are genuine? he cannot be that naive
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post Sep 1 2020, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Sep 1 2020, 03:40 PM) *
so he thinks his streams are genuine? he cannot be that naive

Either that or he's trying to make it look like they are?
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post Sep 1 2020, 02:44 PM
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Surely even if Spotify don’t catch on to the fake streams, the OCC won’t allow it to chart?
Also I’ve noticed that BANNERS’ Someone to You is still in the Spotify chart and performing better than when it charted officially, looks like it went to ACR too early.
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well so far Dj4rain is not in the Mids biggrin.gif
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