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Doctor Blind
post Sep 24 2020, 05:25 PM
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Please continue discussion on the Covid-19 global pandemic in here.

Recent updates:
  • UK records highest daily increase in positive Covid-19 cases - 6,634


  • NHS Track and Trace app released in England and Wales

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post Sep 24 2020, 05:42 PM
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From BBC News:

Students are being told not to go to pubs, parties or restaurants in a bid to stem a spate of coronavirus outbreaks at Scottish universities.

Hundreds of students have tested positive at campuses across the country, with many more self-isolating.

Universities have now pledged to make it "absolutely clear" to students that there must be no parties.

And they will not be allowed to socialise with anyone outside of their accommodation.

Students have also been warned that any breaches of the new rules "will not be tolerated".

The stricter guidelines were announced after opposition leaders accused First Minister Nicola Sturgeon of a "basic failure" to anticipate the problem and provide more testing on university campuses.
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post Sep 24 2020, 05:47 PM
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This advice and enforcement needs to be nationwide now.
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post Sep 24 2020, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(Garden Snake @ Sep 24 2020, 06:47 PM) *
This advice and enforcement needs to be nationwide now.



It's a bit Draconian though. If pubs are open students will feel very aggrieved that they are being told not to go and not visit a restaurant either. The supermarkets and off-licences will do a roaring trade in cheap vodka and cider then as they'll just drink together in their rooms.

DISCLAIMER. I'm not saying all students drink a lot or too much.smile.gif


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post Sep 24 2020, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Sep 24 2020, 06:55 PM) *
It's a bit Draconian though. If pubs are open students will feel very aggrieved that they are being told not to go and not visit a restaurant either. The supermarkets and off-licences will do a roaring trade in cheap vodka and cider then as they'll just drink together in their rooms.

DISCLAIMER. I'm not saying all students drink a lot or too much.smile.gif


Indeed. That disclaimer was needed. But it does seem like a lot of them (I am hoping not the majority or my faith in humanity will take another nose-dive from its already low levels) don't care one bit about Covid (or at least enough about it to stop the non socially distanced socialising) which is even worse. sad.gif They think because they don't see their older relatives for most of the year they are no risk to anyone but they have to go shops and places like that and every time they do so after partying at the weekend they are putting anyone else who uses the shop at risk too. There needs to some sort of advertisement poster put up in university areas highlighting this.


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post Sep 24 2020, 06:17 PM
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Did Scottish students start back before the English ones then? I think down here they only go back late Sept or early Oct. Thinking back to when we took my daughter back, last week in Sept I think it was.
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post Sep 24 2020, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Sep 24 2020, 07:17 PM) *
Did Scottish students start back before the English ones then? I think down here they only go back late Sept or early Oct. Thinking back to when we took my daughter back, last week in Sept I think it was.


I think I have heard before that they always do start a week earlier or so in Scotland.
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post Sep 24 2020, 07:41 PM
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Well this isn't good...
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Not shocked halls have been a flash point. It's natural that everyone is gonna go ahead and mix in freshers.



Berlin hitting a big number of cases today, like the 5th highest daily total. We've taken off this week case wise and so far the state gov has been like "meh". We have some of the loosest restrictions in Germany and now have the highest 7day per capita running total. Very very very low infection rates in the over 70's though, the absolute majority of cases in the 20-49 bracket.

QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Sep 24 2020, 08:17 PM) *
Did Scottish students start back before the English ones then? I think down here they only go back late Sept or early Oct. Thinking back to when we took my daughter back, last week in Sept I think it was.

Yes. All levels of Scottish Education begins earlier than the English equivalents. As a result there is a magic window in late June/early July when the Scottish schools are on holiday but the English ones aren't so we get cheap and English free holidays. Its f***ing glorious.

Universities in Scotland are back by mid-Sept. A couple of unis used to follow a more English timetable (looking at you St Andrews-on-thames) but they're all now in line with the rest of the nation.
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post Sep 24 2020, 07:54 PM
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Well this isn't good...



It's to be expected though. Same with the non-mask wearing. People generally, of all ages, hate being told what to do and how to live their lives and with relatively few fines dished out they know they can get away with it. They have busy lives too and I've read people say they have "No time to isolate or quarantine" themselves. They have work, school college, shopping to do, the school run, elderly to care for etc. They can't just drop everything and stay in for 2 weeks.


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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Sep 24 2020, 06:25 PM) *
UK records highest daily increase in positive Covid-19 cases - 6,634

That’s a mistake. It’s the second highest actually, the first highest being 7,860 cases on 10th April


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post Sep 24 2020, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(Hadji @ Sep 24 2020, 10:45 PM) *
Thatís a mistake. Itís the second highest actually, the first highest being 7,860 cases on 10th April


No. The previous high was 6,201 on 1 May https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/cases

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QUOTE(Quarantilas @ Sep 24 2020, 08:49 PM) *
Not shocked halls have been a flash point. It's natural that everyone is gonna go ahead and mix in freshers.


Natural but there is no excuse for them not following the guidelines. Students breaking social distancing guidelines should face disciplinary action from the universities. I am sure it is possible to be a student living in student accommodation and follow the social distancing guidelines outside your designated 'bubble'.

I didn't think universities should be back on campus anyway this year but distanced learning only as I could see it was a Covid disaster waiting to happen.


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post Sep 25 2020, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(Garden Snake @ Sep 25 2020, 05:55 PM) *
Natural but there is no excuse for them not following the guidelines. Students breaking social distancing guidelines should face disciplinary action from the universities. I am sure it is possible to be a student living in student accommodation and follow the social distancing guidelines outside your designated 'bubble'.

I didn't think universities should be back on campus anyway this year but distanced learning only as I could see it was a Covid disaster waiting to happen.


I mean, they're students. I can't really fault them as if I was in their position I would do the same. But obviously it's a huge problem as all these people mix, work in bars/resturaunts and cause the virus to spread. Clearly the ministers who said it would be a good idea for University students to go back to uni thinks everyone spends 10 hours a day reading classics, economics and law. They don't have clue what its like to be a student haha.
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post Sep 25 2020, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(Garden Snake @ Sep 25 2020, 05:55 PM) *
Natural but there is no excuse for them not following the guidelines. Students breaking social distancing guidelines should face disciplinary action from the universities. I am sure it is possible to be a student living in student accommodation and follow the social distancing guidelines outside your designated 'bubble'.

I didn't think universities should be back on campus anyway this year but distanced learning only as I could see it was a Covid disaster waiting to happen.


That’s the thing most campus’ are doing on line learning for the first term at least so it begs the question why have the universities encouraged students to come to halls of residence at al? They argue they want students to have the full uni experience but really they are trying to make money of students from the accommodation they stay in then blame them if there’s clusters after that.


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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Sep 24 2020, 08:54 PM) *
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It's to be expected though. Same with the non-mask wearing. People generally, of all ages, hate being told what to do and how to live their lives and with relatively few fines dished out they know they can get away with it. They have busy lives too and I've read people say they have "No time to isolate or quarantine" themselves. They have work, school college, shopping to do, the school run, elderly to care for etc. They can't just drop everything and stay in for 2 weeks.


Well of course people donít like being told what to do and in normal times thatís fine but surely 6 months into this people understand sacrifices have to be made.
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So with lower temperatures and strong winds today, even with coats on the kids were freezing in the classrooms today give that we must keep windows open as per the guidelines. I definitely caught a draft on my back. Itís September 25th, this surely isnít going to be sustainable as Winter approaches.
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Sep 25 2020, 09:45 PM) *
So with lower temperatures and strong winds today, even with coats on the kids were freezing in the classrooms today give that we must keep windows open as per the guidelines. I definitely caught a draft on my back. Itís September 25th, this surely isnít going to be sustainable as Winter approaches.

Not to mention the heating bills for the cost of heating the outside.
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post Sep 25 2020, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Sep 25 2020, 09:45 PM) *
So with lower temperatures and strong winds today, even with coats on the kids were freezing in the classrooms today give that we must keep windows open as per the guidelines. I definitely caught a draft on my back. Itís September 25th, this surely isnít going to be sustainable as Winter approaches.



Am sure there's a minimum legal temperature for schools. Isn't it around 21c, like in offices and other workplaces. Take a thermometer in and if it's lower you can refuse to work.
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Mass outbreak in Manchester Met uni with at least 99 positive tests. Honestly, I hope to God some Ministers get sacked for this decision. Absolute braindead across all UK Governments to allow students to move in to shared accommodation. I feel for them of course as it's not the uni experience, but it's complete naievty to think massive parties won't happen (I know I would) unless you keep them as prisoners.
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