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Andrew.
post Sep 29 2020, 05:40 PM
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Seven months to go so why not x

This will be my first vote (I delivered leaflets for the SNP last year and have been a member since 2017 though), itís just putting a cross in a box but I canít wait cheeseblock.png

On my constituency vote Iím definitely going SNP, if Labour were more supportive of independence and had a half decent leader I may consider them but thereís really no choice but SNP. I canít say Iím that ecstatic about the SNP atm though, Iíve never been more supportive of Scottish Independence but my enthusiasm for the party is a bit more limited. On the list Iím gonna go Green, their economic policies on tax etc are more radical and similar to my beliefs and I feel weíve all left the environment crisis behind during COVID.

If I was in Wales Iíd go Plaid obvs happy.gif

In terms of predictions I think weíll get a pro independence majority which is what matters, hopefully in vote share as well this time. Everyoneís expecting the SNP to get a majority on their own but I wouldnít be surprised if they didnít, yíall forget how hard it is to do that under the Scottish system.

The Tories only got 22% in the last Scottish Parliament so I can see them staying similar, maybe making gains in Banffshire if their Brexit base holds up. Labour will lose regional list seats to the Greens
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post Sep 29 2020, 06:26 PM
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Im going both votes SNP, itís the only way we can break the system and get that majority and secure indyref2. Firm believer that every list vote that goes green instead hurts our chances to hit that majority. Especially in areas where we wont Walk every constituency seat like the south west, north east and mid Scotland & fife and the higher the list vote the more we gain from that to counter loses on the ground to the red blue and orange Tories

Ive sent my forms back to be a registered overseas voter. So 15 years of Scottish voting rights now secure
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post Sep 29 2020, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(Quarantilas @ Sep 29 2020, 07:26 PM) *
Im going both votes SNP, itís the only way we can break the system and get that majority and secure indyref2. Firm believer that every list vote that goes green instead hurts our chances to hit that majority. Especially in areas where we wont Walk every constituency seat like the south west, north east and mid Scotland & fife and the higher the list vote the more we gain from that to counter loses on the ground to the red blue and orange Tories

Ive sent my forms back to be a registered overseas voter. So 15 years of Scottish voting rights now secure

There is always the chance the SNP could win a majority on the constituency alone, but that's never certain. Labour will deffo lose East Lothian (Iain 'run away' Gray is retiring) and probably Dunfermline but they'll keep Edinburgh Southern because of tactical voting.

The Tories will lose Edinburgh Central as the Baroness isn't standing, I think they'll keep their seats in Aberdeenshire (making a gain in Banffshire) and the Borders but will lose Eastwood and Ayr, leaving them with 5 on the Constituency. The Lib Dems will keep their four as well due to unionist tactical voting (the money I'd pay to see Alex Cole-Hamilton out of parliament). So that leaves 63 constituencies to the SNP, they got 59 last time. All my own opinions x


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post Sep 29 2020, 06:51 PM
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Thereís a lot of moving parts and tactical potentials that I canít take a risk with my second vote. Iím voting in a seat that will probably go LibDem (NE Fife) and so my list vote counts in ensuring we pick up that seat on the regional list.

This time round Iím being risk adverse, thereís just too much on the line. Indyref2 is quite literally all I care about at this election.

Helps that I personally donít particularly rate the greens or some of their policies
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post Sep 29 2020, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(Quarantilas @ Sep 29 2020, 07:51 PM) *
Thereís a lot of moving parts and tactical potentials that I canít take a risk with my second vote. Iím voting in a seat that will probably go LibDem (NE Fife) and so my list vote counts in ensuring we pick up that seat on the regional list.

This time round Iím being risk adverse, thereís just too much on the line. Indyref2 is quite literally all I care about at this election.

Helps that I personally donít particularly rate the greens or some of their policies

Fair enough. It helps that I live in a fairly safe SNP constituency, I mean the Labour vote was still okay here at the last Holyrood election (27%) but completely collapsed at the Westminster Election last year. The Greens missed out on a North East seat last time and the SNP wonít win all the constituencies here so theyíll get a list seat anyway probs
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post Sep 29 2020, 07:49 PM
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Donít live in either but would vote SNP in Scotland and Labour in Wales
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post Oct 12 2020, 08:37 PM
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10 October - polling from ComRes.

Not much to report, a slight fall for the SNP.

Scottish parliament voting intention:

Constituency
SNO: 50% (-1)
CON: 23% (-1)
LAB: 18% (+1)
LDEM: 6% (-)

PR
SNP: 41% (-2)
CON: 21% (-)
LAB: 18% (+2)
GRN: 11% (+1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)

via @SavantaComRes
Chgs. w/ Aug
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post Oct 13 2020, 04:21 PM
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My hot take is that despite very good polls right now, the SNP will get the same number of seats as in 2016 and, once again, the Greens will be needed to obtain the independence parliamentary majority.

Do not ask me to show my working here x
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post Oct 13 2020, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Harve @ Oct 13 2020, 05:21 PM) *
My hot take is that despite very good polls right now, the SNP will get the same number of seats as in 2016 and, once again, the Greens will be needed to obtain the independence parliamentary majority.

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I can see that as well. Some polls for Holyrood in 2015 had the SNP at 60% (post general election boost) and in the end they ‘only’ got 47%/42%. I can’t see the Salmond stuff helping the SNP either although to who’s benefit idk

Looking forward to conference, my first one even if it’s only virtual lol.


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post Jan 15 2021, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(Harve @ Oct 13 2020, 04:21 PM) *
My hot take is that despite very good polls right now, the SNP will get the same number of seats as in 2016 and, once again, the Greens will be needed to obtain the independence parliamentary majority.


Looks like your take may be a bit hot there Harve.

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post Jan 16 2021, 12:43 AM
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Uff, no denying an independence vote with that mandate! Everything we said r.e brexshit is coming true cheeseblock.png
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post Jan 16 2021, 06:10 PM
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Problem is the veto the Westminster governments have over their satellite colonies!
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post Jan 17 2021, 07:24 PM
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Scotland has its own legal system and the Act was voluntarily entered i to on BOTH sides wink.gif
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post Jan 18 2021, 03:33 PM
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Like most things thereís a lot of small print they add to agreements at 2am in the morning when people want to just sign a agreement.
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post Jan 18 2021, 09:19 PM
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Id be interested for a legal case to test if Holyrood is able to amend or repeal acts of the Scottish Parliament from pre-1707 dissolution as technically speaking this is a continuation of the same parliament and that is how it was reconvened in the late 90Ďs in the First Session. So in theory the parliament has full jurisdiction over its previous acts and therefore could repeal the Acts of Union and hold a referendum on that basis with the question of ĄShould the Scottish Parliament vote to repeal the 1707 Act of Union and become an independent Country?ď
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