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post Sep 30 2020, 10:25 PM
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This is the Spotify chart and general streaming thread for October 2020, the go-to topic for the discussion of Spotify playlists and charts alongside discussion of other streaming services' charts such as Apple & Amazon!

Spotify FAQs

What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming?

For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread.

How do I see today's Spotify chart?

To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. The desktop top 50 may update before anything else so is always worth checking if the website is not up to date. However recently it has been known to not to do (even when the website has), so do check all sources. Also note that the Spotify Website will update before external websites (Kworb, LivePopBars). Occasionally there will be a delay in the Spotify chart updating which could even take days.

Useful web links:

Spotify App [top 50]
Spotify Website [top 200]
Kworb [top 200 and extra data]
LivePopBars [top 200]
SponOnTrack [top 200]

Hot playlist links:



How often does the chart update?

It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although this is not 100% guaranteed. Sometimes the top 200 on the website will update but without the top 50 on the app updating, and sometimes there will be no update at all.

How many plays on Spotify equals one download sale?

100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. (Spotify will let you play a song on repeat 600 times if you really want to).

The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread. For information on what songs are currently on ACR and what songs will be moving to ACR, refer to this thread.

How much does Spotify contribute to the chart?

Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole, although the #1 still can be decided by who has better paid-for sales. Spotify counts for a good chunk of streaming sales (although it appears to be losing some market share as Apple Music and Amazon Music gain in popularity), so doing well on Spotify is essential for doing well in the chart.

Why is my fave not doing well on Spotify?

Is it being promoted on one of Spotify's major curated playlists? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists, with over a million followers. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist.

Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes.

My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping?

Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped artists/releases such as Justin Bieber/Ed Sheeran/Drake who will of course enter straight at the top.

What do the numbers mean?

The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day.

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post Sep 30 2020, 10:52 PM
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The Spotify playlists in the OP need to be changed to the new embedding format!
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post Oct 1 2020, 10:16 AM
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Is 'Wake Me Up When September Ends' doing anything? Does it usually at this time of year?
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post Oct 1 2020, 10:20 AM
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I thought the biggest boost for that song was usually on September 1st, but I didn't see anyone post anything about the song then.
As it is the song isn't top 1500 on AM, but has had an iTunes boost up to #178, up 161 places since yesterday going off Kworb.
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post Oct 1 2020, 11:06 AM
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Midnight Sky up to 15 yahoo.gif
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post Oct 1 2020, 11:32 AM
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Heart of Glass new at #25!

#3 Lemonade
#7 What you know bout love
#12 You broke me first
#15 Miley
#25 NEW Heart of Glass
#37 Put your records on

#53 Daisy


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post Oct 1 2020, 11:57 AM
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Omg shook at Miley! This is with limited major playlists too.
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post Oct 1 2020, 12:04 PM
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I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but Midnight Sky still feels lowish on HHUK given how well it's doing? 16th is good, but I would expect it to have been put in the top 5 by now, or at very least the top 10.
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exactly, but guess we cannot complain cos it was much lower on HH all these past weeks
but as usual HH is totally detached from reality

is Heart of Glass a Spotify exclusive? cos it's not top 1500 on Apple
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looks like Diplo is coming for another hit with On My Mind
up to #80 an Apple, #120 on Spotify and even climbing on iTunes
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QUOTE(365 @ Oct 1 2020, 01:04 PM) *
I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but Midnight Sky still feels lowish on HHUK given how well it's doing? 16th is good, but I would expect it to have been put in the top 5 by now, or at very least the top 10.


No doubt some unheard of GRM song is higher
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Oct 1 2020, 01:46 PM) *
No doubt some unheard of GRM song is higher

What's GRM?
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Oct 1 2020, 08:46 PM) *
No doubt some unheard of GRM song is higher

It has to be pretty heard if it's high on a list of most listened songs. basil.gif

Wait nm you meant a playlist.


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Heart Of Glass managing to debut at #25 with 157,000 and being on no new playlists is incredible! It probably would have went top 40 had it been released on Friday with NMF!

Delighted Midnight Sky has managed a new peak of #15 on Spotify, surely HHUK will finally move this top 10 now. Graham Norton could help it battle for top five next week hopefully!
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I agree that Miley could penetrate the top 5 next week!
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GRM Daily is like a platform to promote UK rap (I think)
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post Oct 1 2020, 04:32 PM
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Spotify Chart Update (30/09)

newright.png 01 01 24kGoldn – Mood (feat. Iann Dior) 480,373
newright.png 02 02 Cardi B – WAP (feat. Megan Thee Stallion) 377,093
newup.png 03 04 Internet Money – Lemonade (feat. Gunna, Don Toliver & Nav) 351,330 [*NEW PEAK*]
newdown.png 04 03 Joel Corry – Head & Heart (feat. MNEK) 339,696
newright.png 05 05 Headie One – Ain't It Different (feat. AJ Tracey & Stormzy) 322,669
newright.png 06 06 Paul Woolford & Diplo – Looking For Me (feat. Kareen Lomax) 270,030
newup.png 07 08 Pop Smoke – What You Know Bout Love 264,035 [*NEW PEAK*]
newdown.png 08 07 Pop Smoke – Mood Swings (feat. Lil Tjay) 253,624
newup.png 09 10 Pop Smoke – For The Night (feat. Lil Baby & DaBaby) 244,384
newdown.png 10 09 Drake – Laugh Now Cry Later (feat. Lil Durk) 242,432

newright.png 11 11 Nathan Dawe – Lighter (feat. KSI)
newup.png 12 15 Tate McRae – You Broke Me First [*NEW PEAK*]
newdown.png 13 12 DJ Khaled – Greece (feat. Drake)
newdown.png 14 13 Justin Bieber – Holy (feat. Chance The Rapper)
newup.png 15 20 Miley Cyrus – Midnight Sky [*NEW PEAK*]
newdown.png 16 14 DaBaby – Rockstar (feat. Roddy Ricch)
newdown.png 17 16 Jason Derulo – Take You Dancing
newright.png 18 18 Harry Styles – Watermelon Sugar
newdown.png 19 17 AJ Tracey & Mabel – West Ten
newdown.png 20 19 Chris Brown & Young Thug – Go Crazy

newright.png 21 21 The Weeknd – Blinding Lights
newright.png 22 22 Dermot Kennedy – Giants
newright.png 23 23 Jawsh 685 & Jason Derulo – Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat)
newright.png 24 24 Clean Bandit & Mabel – Tick Tock (feat. 24kGoldn)
newne.png 25 NE Miley Cyrus – Heart of Glass (Live from the iHeart Music Festival) [*NEW PEAK*]
newdown.png 26 25 Topic – Breaking Me (feat. A7S)
newdown.png 27 26 Da Beatfreakz – 808 (feat. Dutchavelli, DigDat & B Young)
newup.png 28 29 Conan Gray – Heather
newdown.png 29 28 Sigala & James Arthur – Lasting Lover
newdown.png 30 27 Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande – Rain On Me

newright.png 31 31 Juice WRLD – Wishing Well
newdown.png 32 30 BTS – Dynamite
newdown.png 33 32 Pop Smoke – The Woo (feat. 50 Cent & Roddy Ricch)
newup.png 34 35 Tion Wayne – I Dunno (feat. Dutchavelli & Stormzy)
newdown.png 35 34 AJ Tracey – Dinner Guest (feat. MoStack)
newdown.png 36 33 Becky Hill & Sigala – Heaven On My Mind
newup.png 37 41 Ritt Momney – Put Your Records On [*NEW PEAK*]
newdown.png 38 36 DJ Khaled – Popstar (feat. Drake)
newdown.png 39 37 Juice WRLD & Marshmello – Come & Go
newdown.png 40 39 S1mba – Rover (feat. DTG)

newdown.png 42 40 Sam Smith – Diamonds
newright.png 43 43 Machine Gun Kelly & Blackbear – My Ex's Best Friend
newdown.png 44 38 Travis Scott – Franchise (feat. Young Thug & M.I.A.)
newdown.png 49 47 S1mba – Loose (feat. KSI)
newup.png 53 56 Ashnikko – Daisy [*NEW PEAK*]
newdown.png 62 58 Machine Gun Kelly – Forget Me Too (feat. Halsey)
newdown.png 68 66 Nines – Airplane Mode (feat. NSG)
newright.png 69 69 Juice WRLD & The Weeknd – Smile
newdown.png 71 68 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz – 5AM
newdown.png 74 67 MoStack – Miss Me (feat. AJ Tracey)
newup.png 78 82 Banners – Someone To You
newdown.png 79 72 Dua Lipa – Hallucinate
newdown.png 80 74 Saweetie – Tap In
newdown.png 81 79 Rudimental – Come Over (feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne)
newdown.png 85 81 Polo G – Epidemic
newright.png 87 87 Wes Nelson – See Nobody (feat. Hardy Caprio)
newright.png 89 89 Labrinth – Still Don’t Know My Name
newright.png 92 92 Polo G – Martin & Gina
newdown.png 93 88 Machine Gun Kelly – Bloody Valentine

newdown.png 110 103 Calvin Harris & The Weeknd – Over Now
newdown.png 117 109 Vedo – You Got It
newup.png 120 164 Diplo & Sidepiece – On My Mind [*NEW PEAK*]
newdown.png 122 117 WhoHeem – Lets Link
newdown.png 137 126 Zayn – Better
newdown.png 141 132 Royal Blood – Trouble's Coming
newdown.png 145 140 Salem Ilese – Mad at Disney
newup.png 150 151 Polo G – 21
newdown.png 157 143 Joji – Gimme Love
newup.png 162 166 Lil Peep – Star Shopping
newdown.png 170 168 Marshmello & Demi Lovato – OK Not To Be OK
newdown.png 174 154 Joji – Your Man
newup.png 188 192 Flora Cash – You're Somebody Else
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post Oct 1 2020, 05:12 PM
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Apple Music Top 200 Chart Update (30/09-01/10)

newright.png 01 01 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior)
newright.png 02 02 Joel Corry - Head & Heart (feat. MNEK)
newright.png 03 03 Cardi B - WAP (feat. Megan Thee Stallion)
newright.png 04 04 Headie One - Ain't It Different (feat. AJ Tracey & Stormzy)
newright.png 05 05 Internet Money & Gunna - Lemonade (feat. Don Toliver & NAV)
newright.png 06 06 Justin Bieber - Holy (feat. Chance the Rapper)
newright.png 07 07 Paul Woolford, Diplo & Kareen Lomax - Looking for Me
newright.png 08 08 DJ Khaled - GREECE (feat. Drake)
newright.png 09 09 Pop Smoke - Mood Swings (feat. Lil Tjay)
newright.png 10 10 Clean Bandit & Mabel - Tick Tock (feat. 24kGoldn)

newup.png 11 16 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love
newright.png 12 12 Nathan Dawe - Lighter (feat. KSI)
newdown.png 13 11 Dermot Kennedy - Giants
newright.png 14 14 Tate McRae - you broke me first
newdown.png 15 13 Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later (feat. Lil Durk)
newdown.png 16 15 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky
newright.png 17 17 Jason Derulo - Take You Dancing
newup.png 18 21 Pop Smoke - For the Night (feat. Lil Baby & DaBaby)
newright.png 19 19 Sigala & James Arthur - Lasting Lover
newdown.png 20 18 AJ Tracey & Mabel - West Ten

newdown.png 21 20 Rudimental - Come Over (feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne)
newright.png 22 22 Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy
newup.png 23 24 Pop Smoke - The Woo (feat. 50 Cent & Roddy Ricch)
newdown.png 24 23 Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo - Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat)
newup.png 25 26 Da Beatfreakz - 808 (feat. Dutchavelli, DigDat & B Young)
newdown.png 26 25 220 KID & JC Stewart - Too Many Nights
newup.png 27 50 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights
newright.png 28 28 Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar
newright.png 29 29 DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch)
newup.png 30 32 Sam Smith - Diamonds

newdown.png 31 30 Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande - Rain On Me
newdown.png 32 27 Little Mix - Holiday
newdown.png 33 31 Topic & A7S - Breaking Me
newdown.png 34 33 PS1 - Fake Friends (feat. Alex Hosking)
newdown.png 35 34 Nines - Airplane Mode (feat. NSG)
newdown.png 36 35 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - 5AM
newdown.png 37 36 MoStack - Miss Me (feat. AJ Tracey)
newright.png 38 38 DJ Khaled - POPSTAR (feat. Drake)
newright.png 39 39 Becky Hill & Sigala - Heaven On My Mind
newup.png 40 43 Tones And I - Dance Monkey

newdown.png 41 37 Machine Gun Kelly & blackbear - my ex's best friend
newdown.png 43 42 Dua Lipa - Hallucinate
newup.png 47 51 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody
newdown.png 50 45 Travis Scott - FRANCHISE (feat. Young Thug & M.I.A.)
newdown.png 51 48 Calvin Harris, The Weeknd - Over Now
newdown.png 54 53 Conan Gray - Heather
newup.png 55 56 Dutchavelli - Bando Diaries
newup.png 58 78 BTS - Dynamite
newdown.png 59 58 Ashnikko - Daisy
newright.png 66 66 Kygo & Tina Turner - What's Love Got to Do with It
newright.png 69 69 Royal Blood - Trouble’s Coming
newdown.png 73 70 Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On
newdown.png 80 75 WhoHeem - Lets Link
newright.png 83 83 VEDO - You Got It
newup.png 87 114 Diplo & SIDEPIECE - On My Mind
newdown.png 89 86 M1llionz - Lagga
newup.png 91 92 Polo G - Epidemic
newdown.png 93 89 twocolors - Lovefool
newdown.png 97 76 Machine Gun Kelly & Halsey - forget me too
newdown.png 100 99 Topic & A7S - Why Do You Lie to Me (feat. Lil Baby)

newdown.png 102 97 Ava Max - Who's Laughing Now
newdown.png 111 103 David Guetta & Sia - Let's Love
newdown.png 113 105 GRACEY & Alexander 23 - Like That
newdown.png 115 102 Marshmello & Demi Lovato - OK Not to Be OK
newup.png 116 125 Punctual - I Don't Wanna Know
newdown.png 119 116 Polo G - Martin & Gina
newdown.png 122 118 POUNDZ - Tik Tok
newdown.png 123 106 Snakehips & Jess Glynne - Lie for You (feat. A Boogie wit da Hoodie & Davido)
newdown.png 128 127 London Grammar - Baby It's You
newup.png 152 168 Keith Urban & P!nk - One Too Many
newdown.png 155 149 Swarmz, Krept & Konan & Bandokay - How Do You Want It
newup.png 158 165 Morrisson - Brothers (feat. Jordan)
newdown.png 163 119 Machine Gun Kelly - bloody valentine
newdown.png 164 156 BLACKPINK & Selena Gomez - Ice Cream
newdown.png 176 143 Tory Lanez - Money Over Fallouts
newdown.png 182 176 Pa Salieu - My Family (feat. BackRoad Gee)
newdown.png 199 162 Tory Lanez - Friends Become Strangers
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curious to see how the new version of Levitating with DaBaby does next week and if Spotify is gonna support it etc
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'Mood Swings' no longer the highest Pop Smoke song on Spotify wave.gif

Miley debuting higher with a random live cover version than she did with her actual single...?!

Also here for 'On My Mind' belatedly becoming a hit ~
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