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post Oct 4 2020, 08:00 AM
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After news that the new Bond film is delayed again until April.

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CINEWORLD is set to shut all 128 of its theatres in the UK and Ireland after Covid caused the last James Bond film to be pushed back until spring.

The delay until April, announced on Friday, has plunged cinemas into financial crisis - costing top chains up to £50million.

Cineworld is believed to be “on the brink” after shares dropped by 2.5 per cent.

It had already lost £1.3billion globally due to the virus and cut entry to £4 to coax back punters.

According to the Sunday Times, the chain is drawing up plans to close all its UK sites as early as this week, putting 5,500 jobs at risk.

The majority of the chain’s staff will be asked to accept redundancy, with possible incentives to rejoin the company when theatres reopen.

The company has written to PM Boris Johnson and Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden to say that the industry has become “un-viable” because of the postponement of this year’s biggest blockbuster.

No Time to Die — starring Daniel Craig and co-written by Killing Eve’s Phoebe Waller-Bridge — was hoped to match the success of the 2015 Bond movie Spectre, which made £80million at UK box offices.

In 2012 Bond movie Skyfall raked in a record £103million here.

Jane Crowther, editor of Total Film, told The Sun on Sunday: “I’m massively surprised by this decision.

“It’s a disaster for UK cinemas and it will cost them, conservatively £50million in the short run. They’ll hope to make the money back next April but who knows how many cinemas will still be open then to show it?”

Cineworld had hoped that the new Bond movie would increase their
A source said: “Cineworld were very hopeful the Bond movie would be their saviour in these difficult times. Bosses will be very worried about the firm’s future.”

Cinemas had experienced a much-needed shot in the arm in August when Christopher Nolan’s action thriller Tenet took £5.4million in the UK in its first weekend.

The film was the first big blockbuster to be released since theatres were shut in March.

No Time to Die, the 25th Bond film, had already been put back once with producers desperate to recoup the record £200million it cost to make.

A second global advertising campaign, worth £100million alone, was already well under way while promotional campaigns and product placement deals had been launched with sponsors including Heineken, Bollinger, Aston Martin and Nokia.

The film’s official podcast aired on Wednesday and the video for Billie Eilish’s title song was released on Friday.

'SIGNIFICANT LOSSES'
Cinemas were planning to leave the film running for weeks, and it was assumed that since major markets such as China were open, no more delays would be needed.

Cineworld said it had reopened 561 out of 778 sites worldwide as lockdown restrictions have been eased.

Leading film lawyer Nick Miller said: “Clearly, it’s a huge problem for cinemas in the short term as Bond joins the list of other event films postponed until 2021.

“The decision to postpone further is easy to understand with further lockdowns and restrictions in place or imminent in the UK and other key international markets.

“The losses are significant and how many cinemas, particularly the independents, will be able to survive without revenue from Bond and other event films this year?”

A spokesman for Cineworld declined to comment.


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post Oct 4 2020, 08:01 AM
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Sad. There's a big one near us. I hear our Showcase is in trouble too. It re-opened showing mainly old films alongside the few new releases but people just aren't going still.
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post Oct 4 2020, 08:04 AM
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My local Cineworld underwent a major refurbishment during lockdown so this is a surprise.
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post Oct 4 2020, 08:05 AM
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It's not saying if they'll close for good or just until the Bond film comes out.




£4 entry sounds very good. I may even have gone at that price! Haven't been for years.


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post Oct 4 2020, 08:14 AM
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Oh wow!
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post Oct 4 2020, 09:01 AM
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This is pretty depressing. I was supporting my Cineworld when they first reopened but since having to go back to work, finding time to go has been difficult.
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post Oct 4 2020, 09:20 AM
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Whilst this obviously has wider implications, I’m going to move this to Movies as thing it has a significant impact on the movie/cinema industry... sad.gif

My local cinema is a Cineworld so this is pretty upsetting if true. I can understand it though given there’s no releases coming out, with everything either going on streaming or pushed back to next year. I still don’t understand Disney’s decision to release Mulan here on Disney+ when Tenet showed there are chances for cinema in the UK.

It’s alright for movie studios to push their films back but there might be nothing to release them in if they leave it too late!
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post Oct 4 2020, 09:32 AM
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I think this is the perfect case study into why capitalism and the short termism & shareholder focus it requires to survive is a failed economic model. They’re prioritising their bottom line, so they can pay dividends and keep share prices high which through absolutely no coincidence drive performance related bonuses for the board. By doing so they threaten the viability of their entire industry.

With the refusal to work with Netflix and Amazon in order to give off their content into their own silos these studios were already showing they’d learned nothing at all from the structural causes of piracy and now again they’re not looking beyond shareholder dividends.


This short term focus is running the risk of, as Klaus points out, there being no cinema industry for these films to open in. Realistically you’re gonna see chains survive in major cities but there will be a lot of midsized towns that see their one cinema shut and you’ll see millions of people with no easily accessible place now have no where to go and correspondingly they will take millions upon millions of pounds away from these studios because they won’t have the blockbuster releases accessible to them in a way that isn’t piracy.

Ultimately, yet again the big studios endanger the environment they operate in and fuel the fire on their own collapse but funnelling more people toward piracy
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post Oct 4 2020, 09:43 AM
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I'm devastated. I love the cinema so much and you really can't have the same experience if you watch at home in my opinion. I really hope this isn't a sign of things to come and the other major cinema outlets, and independent ones too, manage to survive this somehow. The gov really needs to do SOMETHING.
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post Oct 4 2020, 10:03 AM
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post Oct 4 2020, 10:50 AM
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I agree with Silas, these firms make their own destiny through their choices to protect dividends over viability. I don’t want to see the government step in to support any of those companies, I’d rather they supported alternatives that are more focused on the wider community needs.
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post Oct 4 2020, 11:34 AM
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There wasn't any particularly near me, but wow what a shame. Can't be too long until some other cinemas start closing, my local Odeon looks at risk :'( I know Tenet's box office wasn't roaring, but people still definitely went out to see it, and I think Mulan could've done the same. It's gotta be something they adjust to or the other chains will follow suit, it looks like December before the next really big release and they could be pushed back too :/
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post Oct 4 2020, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Oct 4 2020, 09:05 AM) *
It's not saying if they'll close for good or just until the Bond film comes out.
£4 entry sounds very good. I may even have gone at that price! Haven't been for years.

The BBC report says that, for now at least, it is a temporary closure. It suggests they will be closed at least until the new year.
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post Oct 4 2020, 12:50 PM
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Gutted if this is true, hoping it's just a move to try and force the hand of people higher up - Tenet had a great opening weekend so I think they should've just gone ahead with the new Bond movie

I've had a lot of loyalty to Cineworld and kept my Unlimited card active throughout this year even though I've only been back once since they re-opened

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Oct 4 2020, 09:04 AM) *
My local Cineworld underwent a major refurbishment during lockdown so this is a surprise.


The one at the O2 which I used to visit a lot had a big refurbishment and expansion just last summer, including adding five new massive screens drama.gif
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post Oct 4 2020, 02:34 PM
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Unfortunately probably the beginning of the end for cinemas. The situation won't be improving any time in the foreseeable future. Ditto museums/libraries/leisure centres etc
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post Oct 4 2020, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Oct 4 2020, 09:05 AM) *
It's not saying if they'll close for good or just until the Bond film comes out.
£4 entry sounds very good. I may even have gone at that price! Haven't been for years.


It's around £5 for our local independent cinema.

It seems to be surviving quite easily, perhaps the local independents could end up doing quite well out of this at the expense of the large chains?
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post Oct 4 2020, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Oct 4 2020, 03:40 PM) *
It seems to be surviving quite easily, perhaps the local independents could end up doing quite well out of this at the expense of the large chains?

That would be one positive to come out of this huge bad news story!

The government have really let the entertainment sector suffer immensly during the pandemic. This news needs to be a wake up call that more needs to be done to save the industry.
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post Oct 4 2020, 04:36 PM
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Very sad news, our nearest is Odeon, we do have Cineworld not far. Odeon is still going at the moment just showing old movies to keep it ticking over, but the numbers have been low. I usually watch 12 to 15 movies per year, the only movie I have seen this year was back in Jan, which was the Star Wars movie. The latest blockbusters Tenet and The New Mutants that hit the screens recently are doing badly, the latter movie to be honest its not that really good, I heard.
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post Oct 4 2020, 04:51 PM
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I can't help but think that most of the big studios are acting pretty selfish at the moment, sure Bond would not have made as much money as in normal situations, but at the same time, Bond needs cinema as much as cinema's need Bond (as they keep saying they want to show it on the big screen). Couldn't they take a bit of a loss? I am sure it would not be THAT bad for such a big studio, look at Tenet, it has already crossed around 300 million worldwide which is definitely not a bad result.

Surprisingly cinema over here in The Netherlands seems to be doing quite well at the moment, ofcourse numbers are down, but overall it seems to be doing quite okay. So I am extra sad to read this news. I visited the new Cineworld in Plymouth over the Christmas break and it looked fantastic! I really hope they could re-open next year.
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post Oct 4 2020, 05:29 PM
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The studio will charge a hell of a lot to rent a movie like Bond to the cinemas, especially in the first few weeks. They could charge less but guess they won't want to do that. A chain pays less than an individual independant for instance if they rent say 2000 prints.

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