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danG
post 31st October 2020, 09:50 PM
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This is the Spotify chart and general streaming thread for November 2020, the go-to topic for the discussion of Spotify playlists and charts alongside discussion of other streaming services' charts such as Apple & Amazon!

Spotify FAQs

What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming?

For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread.

How do I see today's Spotify chart?

To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. The desktop top 50 may update before anything else so is always worth checking if the website is not up to date. However recently it has been known to not to do (even when the website has), so do check all sources. Also note that the Spotify Website will update before external websites (Kworb, LivePopBars). Occasionally there will be a delay in the Spotify chart updating which could even take days.

Useful web links:

Spotify App [top 50]
Spotify Website [top 200]
Kworb [top 200 and extra data]
LivePopBars [top 200]
SponOnTrack [top 200]

Hot playlist links:



How often does the chart update?

It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although this is not 100% guaranteed. Sometimes the top 200 on the website will update but without the top 50 on the app updating, and sometimes there will be no update at all.

How many plays on Spotify equals one download sale?

100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. (Spotify will let you play a song on repeat 600 times if you really want to).

The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread. For information on what songs are currently on ACR and what songs will be moving to ACR, refer to this thread.

How much does Spotify contribute to the chart?

Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole, although the #1 still can be decided by who has better paid-for sales. Spotify counts for a good chunk of streaming sales (although it appears to be losing some market share as Apple Music and Amazon Music gain in popularity), so doing well on Spotify is essential for doing well in the chart.

Why is my fave not doing well on Spotify?

Is it being promoted on one of Spotify's major curated playlists? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists, with over a million followers. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist.

Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes.

My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping?

Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped artists/releases such as Justin Bieber/Ed Sheeran/Drake who will of course enter straight at the top.

What do the numbers mean?

The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day.

[FAQs written by Dan]

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Maestro
post 1st November 2020, 10:27 AM
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Huge Halloween effect on Spotify with Ariana falling back big time.

Positions still #1 but less than 100k clear of Mood
Thriller #5
Ghostbusters #9
Mariah now up to #500ish on Apple
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post 1st November 2020, 10:40 AM
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Positions still almost 500k so no need to downplay that - it is actually the third highest figure for the song.
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post 1st November 2020, 10:51 AM
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Monster Mash at #27 & #36 - would be #4 combined!
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post 1st November 2020, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(jimwatts @ Nov 1 2020, 06:51 PM) *
Monster Mash at #27 & #36 - would be #4 combined!

A certified graveyard smash!
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post 1st November 2020, 11:31 AM
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wow Positions already < 500K, shocking!
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post 1st November 2020, 11:40 AM
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🎃 Halloween: Spotify 🎃

5. Michael Jackson - Thriller
9. Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters
27. Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers - Monster Mash (also #36)
37. AC/DC - Highway to Hell
40. The Citizens of Halloween - This Is Halloween
43. Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me
47. Rihanna - Disturbia
56. Blue Φyster Cult - (Don't Fear) The Reaper
64. Little Nell, Patricia Quinn & Richard O'Brien - Time Warp
72. The Cranberries - Zombie
90. Stevie Wonder - Superstition
97. The Rolling Stones - Sympathy For The Devil
103. Duran Duran - Hungry Like the Wolf
118. Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)
124. Screamin' Jay Hawkins - I Put a Spell On You
126. Shakira - She Wolf
133. Ava Max - Sweet But Psycho
146. Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
151. Ella Henderson - Ghost
152. Eminem & Rihanna - The Monster
153. M83 - Midnight City
155. Kesha - Cannibal
156. Billie Eilish - Bury a Friend
162. Britney Spears - Toxic
164. Radiohead - Creep
165. Little Mix - Black Magic
171. Imagine Dragons - Demons
172. The Specials - Ghost Town
181. Andrew Gold - Spooky, Scary Skeletons (Undead Tombstone Remix)
185. Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
186. DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - A Nightmare on My Street
190. Lady Gaga - Monster
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post 1st November 2020, 11:48 AM
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🎃 Halloween: Apple Music 🎃

9 Michael Jackson - Thriller
10 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters
11 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash
35 The Citizens of Halloween - This Is Halloween
53 Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell
58 The Specials - Ghost Town
86 Jay Hawkins - I Put a Spell On You
97 Little Nell, Patricia Quinn & Richard O'Brien - Time Warp
111 The Cranberries - Zombie (Remastered 2020)
112 The Prodigy - Breathe cheeseblock.png
116 Radiohead - Creep
120 Warren Zevon - Werewolves of London (Remastered)
122 AC/DC - Highway to Hell
138 E. Power Biggs - Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, BWV 565: Toccata cheeseblock.png
149 Alice Cooper - Poison (Live)
150 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life

never realised 'Breathe' was ever considered a Halloween song laugh.gif
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post 1st November 2020, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(danGnation @ Nov 1 2020, 01:40 PM) *
190. Lady Gaga - Monster



Queen of Halloween too!
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post 1st November 2020, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(danGnation @ Nov 1 2020, 07:48 PM) *
never realised 'Breathe' was ever considered a Halloween song laugh.gif

I suppose if it were called "Insane" it'd be no less questionable in such a canon as "Creep" which also doesn't really fit at all outside of an out-of-context title tongue.gif
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post 1st November 2020, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(Draculadracula @ Nov 1 2020, 12:14 PM) *
I suppose if it were called "Insane" it'd be no less questionable in such a canon as "Creep" which also doesn't really fit at all outside of an out-of-context title tongue.gif

not to mention 'Zombie' which has nothing to do with zombies, and a few others on that list.

(but what I meant was I'd never seen 'Breathe' in a list of "Halloween songs" before)
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post 1st November 2020, 12:42 PM
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Its kylie month yaaay
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post 1st November 2020, 02:21 PM
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That is huge for the Halloween songs - looks like 'Thriller' has never previously gone higher than #13 on Spotify.

I'd really love to see 'Monster Mash' making the top 40 though I still won't hold my breath x

Also... The Prodigy kings of Halloween cheeseblock.png (I've never considered that to be a Halloween song either but I can kind of see it x)
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post 1st November 2020, 02:34 PM
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Seems like Lockdown has helped Halloween somewhat then. I wonder if we'll see a similar effect for Christmas...

... cue Buzzjack getting all excited about the prospect of Mariah going #1 again before the universe finds some way to stop it.
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post 1st November 2020, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(danGnation @ Nov 1 2020, 02:34 PM) *
Seems like Lockdown has helped Halloween somewhat then. I wonder if we'll see a similar effect for Christmas...

... cue Buzzjack getting all excited about the prospect of Mariah going #1 again before the OCC finds some way to stop it.


Fixed it for you
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post 1st November 2020, 03:09 PM
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What’s ‘Halloween’ about Disturbia, Ghost and Black Magic? Is it literally just the titles?
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post 1st November 2020, 03:21 PM
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but it's not that people randomly goes and search for songs
Spotify makes a playlist and that's what people listen
and Im sure Breathe was on the Apple Halloween playlist
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post 1st November 2020, 05:13 PM
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Mariah not climbing that quickly on Apple. Only #241 currently (does she usually do better on Spotify?)
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post 1st November 2020, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(Sour Candy @ Nov 1 2020, 10:40 AM) *
Positions still almost 500k so no need to downplay that - it is actually the third highest figure for the song.


It seems to have had decent first day for the new release last week but soon fell to 400-500k and same following the album release. So it’s not downplaying it just stating the fluctuating nature of the track
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post 1st November 2020, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Maestro @ Nov 1 2020, 05:13 PM) *
Mariah not climbing that quickly on Apple. Only #241 currently (does she usually do better on Spotify?)


Good. Save the Christmas songs for December.
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