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post Mar 14 2021, 06:32 PM
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So benefits of most things being rolled over from 2020 is that I don't have to write a new intro spiel for this years running order thread! Here's what I wrote more or less at this time last year;

QUOTE(LexC @ Mar 7 2020, 10:39 PM) *
So we're still waiting on the last few stragglers (Noted repeat offenders Malta, Russia, Azerbaijan and North Macedonia still outstanding) and Portugal will be all wrapped up around midnight GMT but even then I think we've got a fairly solid idea of what kind of thing those countries are likely to bring - and one thing I think we've missed this year due to the backloading of the song reveals is discussions about the running order/differences between the halves of the semis. So this is what we're looking at

Semi One

First Half

Australia
Belarus
Ireland
Lithuania
North Macedonia
Russia
Slovenia
Sweden

Second Half

Azerbaijan
Belgium
Croatia
Cyprus
Israel
Malta
Norway
Romania
Ukraine

Semi Two

First Half

Austria
Czech Republic
Estonia
Greece
Iceland
Moldova
Poland
San Marino
Serbia

Second Half

Albania
Armenia
Bulgaria
Denmark
Finland
Georgia
Latvia
Portugal
Switzerland


And also some initial observations which I don't think are that much different this year!

QUOTE(LexC @ Mar 7 2020, 10:44 PM) *
First general observations:

JESUS CRISTO Semi One is the biggest bloodbath I've ever seen at this stage of the game. Australia and Ukraine will have a fight on their hands to keep their 100% Qualification record.

The flip side of that is that Semi Two, specifically the back half of Semi Two has a lot of stuff that you wouldn't call as a definite qualifier. There'll probably be one or even two songs that qualify by virtue of being in the "easier" semi that then do absolutely nothing in the final and help the UK finish 22nd rather than 24th.

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post Mar 14 2021, 06:56 PM
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For Semi 2:

01. Czech Republic - Benny Cristo - Omaga
02. Estonia - Uku Suviste - The Lucky One
03. Moldova - Natalia Gordienko - Sugar
04. Austria - Vincent Bueno - Amen
05. Serbia - Hurricane - Loco Loco
06. Poland - Rafal - The Ride
07. Greece - Stefania - Last Dance
08. Iceland - Dadi og Gagnamagnid - 10 Years
09. San Marino - Senhit - Adrenalina
10. Portugal - The Black Mamba - Love Is On My Side
11. Switzerland - Gjon's Tears - Tout l'univers
12. Latvia - Samanta Tina - The Moon Is Rising
13. Georgia - Tornike Kipiani - You
14. Denmark - Fyr & Flamme - Ove os pa hinanden
15. Albania - Anxhela Peristeri - Karma
16. Bulgaria - Victoria - Growing Up Is Getting Old
17. Finland - Blind Channel - Dark Side
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post Mar 14 2021, 07:12 PM
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Am I right in deducing that there's only 2 female belters this year - Albania and Slovenia? (If Efendi and Destiny don't bring belters)

One in each semi? That could benefit both of them.
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post Mar 14 2021, 07:15 PM
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I guess you could argue for the inclusion of Latvia in the female belter category? Plus I could see Malta feasibly bringing a big soul belter if they want to play to Destiny's strengths.
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post Mar 14 2021, 07:17 PM
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True about Malta. I wouldn't see Latvia taking votes from Albania - votes from fans of big ballads.

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post Mar 15 2021, 07:49 AM
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I can see them opening the Semi with Serbia?
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post Mar 15 2021, 09:20 AM
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Apart from Austria and Estonia....it's a very pop heavy first half.
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post Mar 15 2021, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(Colm @ Mar 15 2021, 09:20 AM) *
Apart from Austria and Estonia....it's a very pop heavy first half.

I'd definitely class Estonia as pop. Definitely more so than Czechia.
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post Mar 15 2021, 09:44 AM
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I suppose I meant upbeat numbers. What some would call bops.

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post Mar 15 2021, 11:17 AM
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I'm sure Lithuania will end the first half of semi 1, and Cyprus gets to close the 2nd half
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post Mar 15 2021, 03:06 PM
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1. Serbia
2. Poland
3. Austria
4. Greece
5. Estonia
6. Moldova
7. Czech Republic
8. San Marino
9. Iceland
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10. Portugal
11. Latvia
12. Georgia
13. Albania
14. Switzerland
15. Denmark
16. Bulgaria
17. Finland

I think Czech Republic would make a great opener, but with Greece/Moldova/San Marino/Serbia all delivering big, up-tempo female entries, I feel like you've got to start with one to help spread them out? And between those four I think you need to save San Marino (and the Flo Rida gag) and Moldova (I'm imagining something BIG with loads of Kirkorov money pumped into the performance) until later, so it comes down to the other two and Greece were penned into open last year so I'm changing it up and gone with Serbia. Again, cos they were due to be in slot #2 last year, I'm letting Estonia off the hook and gone for something else that I don't think people overly care about. From there I try to alternate between either tempo and/or male/female acts.

For the second half, I don't think you want to end on too slow a note, nor something that is instantly dead on arrival, so we land on Finland. Denmark get quite lucky as I don't think you can bury them too early when we have slow numbers from Portugal/Georgia/Switzerland/Bulgaria that need breaking up, and the latter two as big favourites aren't going to be thrown on too early.
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post Mar 16 2021, 01:14 PM
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Semi 1

1. Ireland
(potentially Belarus)
2. North Macedonia
3. Australia
4. Sweden
5. Russia
6. Slovenia
7. Lithuania
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8. Israel
9. Ukraine
10. Croatia
11. Belgium
12. Azerbaijan
13. Norway
14. Cyprus
15. Romania
16. Malta

I find this semi more of a struggle to pick an opener from, Macedonia/Sweden/Slovenia are too slow, Russia/Australia a bit too 'noisy'/out there and then Lithuania...too much of a favourite? So I give it to Ireland kinda by default, a solid track that has enough life to kick us off. Belarus will go 2nd with whatever they send if they happen to still compete, but if not you've got to sacrifice Macedonia or Slovenia, and I feel like Slovenia is more likely to be the "surprise jury fave" of the year.

The second half is easier to order, Norway has to go somewhere in the middle as he's the only male on vocal duties and I can not see a situation where Destiny doesn't close the show - it's a big fave, a great positive note to end on AND from what I can gather, the meaning of 'je me casse' is roughly 'OK, I'm out'.
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I just created a Youtube playlist so that I can cycle through all the entries and tried to put them into a running order that I thought would work well:

Semi Final 1

01 Lithuania
02 Slovenia
03 Australia
04 North Macedonia
05 Ireland
06 Russia
07 Sweden
08 Azerbaijan
09 Romania
10 Israel
11 Cyprus
12 Norway
13 Ukraine
14 Croatia
15 Belgium
16 Malta

Semi Final 2

01 Czech Republic
02 Austria
03 San Marino
04 Poland
05 Moldova
06 Estonia
07 Greece
08 Iceland
09 Serbia
10 Georgia
11 Denmark
12 Albania
13 Portugal
14 Latvia
15 Switzerland
16 Finland
17 Bulgaria
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post Mar 20 2021, 07:03 PM
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For semi 1, Belarus can go 2nd if they end up competing.

01. Australia - Montaigne - Technicolour
02. North Macedonia - Vasil - Here I Stand
03. Ireland - Lesley Roy - Maps
04. Lithuania - The Roop - Discoteque
05. Slovenia - Ana Soklic - Amen
06. Russia - Manizha - Russian Woman
07. Sweden - Tusse - Voices
08. Cyprus - Elena Tsagrinou - El Diablo
09. Belgium - Hooverphonic - The Wrong Place
10. Israel - Eden Alene - Set Me Free
11. Romania - Roxen - Amnesia
12. Croatia - Albina - Tick Tock
13. Norway - Tix - Fallen Angel
14. Azerbaijan - Efendi - Mata Hari
15. Ukraine - Go_A - Shum
16. Malta - Destiny - Je me casse
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post Mar 20 2021, 07:31 PM
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Semi One in my headcannon

01 Lithuania: The Roop - Discotheque
02 Slovenia: Ana Soklic - Amen
03 Belarus: Galasy ZMesta - Some Shit Song
04 North Macedonia: Vasil - Here I Stand
05 Australia: Montaigne - Technicolour
06 Russia: Manizha - Russian Woman
07 Sweden: Tusse - Voices
08 Ireland: Lesley Roy - Maps
09 Ukraine: Go_A - Shum
10 Romania: Roxen - Amnesia
11 Israel: Eden Alene - Set Me Free
12 Azerbaijan: Efendi - Mata Hari
13 Norway: TIX - Fallen Angel
14 Cyprus: Elena - El Diablo
15 Malta: Destiny - Je Me Casse
16 Belgium: Hooverphonic - The Wrong Place
17 Croatia: Albina - Tick Tock

- Lithuania seem the most obvious song to get the party started/make a bold impression from the off with Slovenia given the sacrificial second place slot. If Belarus don't turn up in Rotterdam then Australia can be swapped around to put in between Slovenia and North Macedonia to break up the run of ballads. Throughout the rest of the run I've tried to break up the higher and lower tempos where possible.
- Norway has to go somewhere in that middle of the second half/after a break to give them set up time for the props. And Cyprus to follow them just for the symbolism of going from "fallen angel" to El Diablo.
- Croatia close the show with a similar high energy number with Belgium providing the cushioning between Croatia and Malta in song 15
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And for Semi 2

01 Czech Republic: Benny Cristo - Omaga
02 Poland: Rafal - The Ride
03 Serbia: Hurricane - Loco Loco
04 Austria: Vincent Bueno - Amen
05 San Marino: Senhit - Adrenalina
06 Moldova: Natalia Gordienko - Sugar
07 Iceland: Dadi Freyr - 10 Years
08 Estonia: Uku Suviste - The Lucky Ones
09 Greece: Stefania - Last Dance
10 Portugal: The Black Mamba - Love Is On My Side
11 Latvia: Samanta Tina - The Moon Is Rising
12 Bulgaria: Victoria - Growing Up Is Getting Old
13 Albania: Anxhela - Karma
14 Georgia: Tornike Kipiani - You
15 Denmark: Fyr & Flamme - Ove os pa hinanden
16 Switzerland: Gjon's Tears - Tous l'univers
17 Finland: Blind Channel - Dark Side

- Main challenge here is how to spread out the pop bangers in the first half. I ended up with this version on the basis that there'd be a break after song 5 so there's time to get your breath back between San Marino and Moldova
- Czech Republic seem like a good opener for something high energy. I didn't think I could put both Amens in the death slot so Poland goes there for something that's poppy but not particularly high impact with Austria used to break up a run of bangers later on
- The second half was a lot easier to go with the contrasts. Finland makes the most sense as a closer with hopefully a big stage show with a lot of fireworks and Switzerland just before as the most hyped up entry for a strong contrast.
- If we're keeping the breaks in the same place as Semi 1 then the second one would go between Albania and Georgia which works well enough (for a pee break)
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Running Orders have been released on the official Eurovision Instagram!



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post Mar 30 2021, 10:14 AM
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My first scattered thoughts are that this looks good for Finland and Bulgaria, not good for Russia, both of those in second are sacrificed, Denmark will be a less than stellar finish and will probably sink for that, intriguing openers on both fronts.
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post Mar 30 2021, 10:17 AM
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Georgia, Albania, Portugal, Bulgaria is going to be a drag.

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post Mar 30 2021, 10:18 AM
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I'd good that Ireland come after N Macedonia.

I really don't think Lithuania is certain to qualify, any more.


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