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post Mar 15 2021, 11:03 PM
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Friday can't come soon enough omg

Bucky and Sam are back, along with Sharon Carter, Helmut Zero and Georges Batroc plus an appearance from James/War Machine expected too!

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post Mar 15 2021, 11:45 PM
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Very excited for this. It's gonna be so weird coming so soon after 'WandaVision' and how much different it's going to be, but I'm hopeful that it's gonna be great & be just as strong as 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier'.
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post Mar 16 2021, 12:19 PM
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Iím looking forward to this but Iím not as excited by it as I was WandaVision. Mainly because Wanda & Vision were really interesting characters to me whereas I was never too keen on the Winter Solider and Falcon was just kinda there... but I suppose thatís the point of this show tongue.gif
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post Mar 16 2021, 12:52 PM
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Will be watching this of course, I'd be really interested to see what this ties in to within the larger MCU. This looks like it will be more 'MCU' action orientated than WandaVision and a slightly different premise.. I'll be looking forward to all the fan theories that follow.. always one of the best bits!
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post Mar 18 2021, 09:11 AM
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Iíll definitely watch this but I just still donít understand why on earth Cap would have given his shield to Falcon and not Bucky. It makes no damn sense.
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post Mar 18 2021, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(diva thin muffin @ Mar 18 2021, 09:11 AM) *
Iíll definitely watch this but I just still donít understand why on earth Cap would have given his shield to Falcon and not Bucky. It makes no damn sense.

I mean, Bucky was a villain and is a straight up murderer, so the optics aren't great there. Giving him it wouldn't make any sense when Sam's right there.

I do still feel like Sam is one of the least interesting characters, but I'm willing to have my mind changed by the show.
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post Mar 19 2021, 03:29 PM
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That was a whole lot of... nothing? laugh.gif

Like, it wasn't even bad or terrible etc.. just nothing happened? Probably 2 mins max in that 45 minute episode that actually served to the main story? laugh.gif It didn't drag though which was a plus (I had to check that it wasn't a 35 minute ep with 10 minutes of credits like D+ are famous for haha). It felt too fillery to be the first episode.

Hopefully, now that they've caught us up on what both of them are now doing, we'll start getting heavier into the story and focusing on that whole terrorist group more. That new agent was cool.. hope we see more of him. The action sequences were good though! I just wish it wasn't over with and all done in the first 10 mins... I think they should've done a bit more with the terrorist group tbh.

For an opening episode that was... not terrible but it wasn't great either. If I wasn't so invested in the MCU I'd probably tune in next week but if it's more of the same, I'd not bother with the rest.

We'll see. Maybe I'm just hard to please coz the Captain America franchise is so near and dear to my heart!
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post Mar 19 2021, 09:05 PM
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Iíve had a long day and this just hasnít held me interest. Hopefully next week will be a stronger episode.
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post Mar 20 2021, 02:56 PM
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The first 10 minutes were absolutely stunning! I really liked the Bucky storyline too as I feel a show he’s the star off absolutely needs to continue exploring his past.

The terrorist plot looks intriguing too, I just wish that Falcon’s storyline had continued to be a lot more focused on that. I think the mistake they’ve made is that these types of stories always have that family life to help ‘earth’ the story a bit more and create more peril for the hero but they’ve never really explored that with Falcon before and so are forced to introduce it now. I’m sure the sister and/or her family will be held hostage or something by the terrorists.

I guess Wandavision’s couple of episodes were very introductory as well and ultimately very removed from everything that came after. It feels the same will happen here, although it feels odder with there being less episodes, especially as we’ve not seen Sharon Carter or Zemo yet.
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post Mar 20 2021, 08:04 PM
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Trying this as a non-MCU fan who just loved WandaVision. I found the first 10 mins to boring same old could shut my eyes and get the same effect kind of action scenes. I preferred the moments particularly with Bucky and seeing him dealing (or not) with himself and adjusting to normal life, same with Sam but from a very different perspective. I can imagine this wasn't jumping straight into the action but seemed good to set up the story with the bank heist and video clip being shown to Sam. I'll be here for next week's episode!
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post Mar 27 2021, 06:57 PM
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I'm really enjoying this series, enough action and plot, but the real winner is characterisation. let's be honest, in the movies they were never really what you might call "fleshed-out 3-dimensional" characters, other than "brainwashed killer & recovering PTSD" and "likeable dependable supporter of Captain America" so the in-depth consequences of the Blip (people coming back after 5 years would decimate every country, unless their houses and possessions had been held in stasis) and the trauma of Bucky to adjust and Sam's guilt at being asked to be the new Cap is a massive bonus to me.
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post Mar 27 2021, 07:02 PM
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Actually really enjoyed the second episode.
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post Mar 27 2021, 07:08 PM
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I really enjoyed the 2nd episode too. They're going in HARD with race and social issues and I love that we're getting that. It so far feels very real and not forced. The whole scene with Isaiah (his story is insane) was so raw and real and hard to watch, then the following scene with the police changing their tone etc.. incredible stuff (although tough at times)!

Also #NotMyCap !! Ughhh
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post Apr 2 2021, 11:36 AM
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Now that was a GOOD episode.

Ridiculous at times but very fun!
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post Apr 2 2021, 03:26 PM
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Very fun but very fast paced for me tbh. Iím not quite enjoying this as much as WandaVision (or other Marvel shows Iíve seen tbh, as Iím currently watching the Netflix shows) but itís enjoyable and I am interested in the story
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Since no one else is going to imma say it

Zemo is both sus and iconic, which is still kinda sus but is still kinda iconic
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